Topic: Addiction is 100% your choice: - page 15. (Read 3050 times)

I hesitate to say this, but to be honest, I once experienced an addiction and stopped avoiding any online media and it was all because of my carelessness, I couldn't manage my finances and couldn't control myself to bet according to a predetermined schedule. But after I removed myself from the online world for a long time, I came back in a better condition without addiction.

After everything passed, this time I felt like I was never addicted (after I recovered) because I now have my own rules for betting on lower risks such as sports betting and set a budget not to spend more than $200. This way I am more comfortable and never feel addicted because I bet only on the sport I currently like without having to bet on other bets just to indulge my passion.

Maybe once in a while I bet on a casino game (which has a higher risk of addiction) and when I feel like I'm looking bad, I'll leave the casino game.

If you are stating that gambling addiction is not 100% gambler's choice then I agree with you.  I believe there is more on gambling addiction than just being a choice.  Although initially, a person chooses to gamble but I believe that this same person doesn't want to get addicted.

Addiction is a process and gamblers do not instantly get addicted to gambling the moment they start engaging in gambling.  Many factors affect our reaction to gambling and to become addicted there is certainly a triggering factor that is unknown to the gambler.  Who would love to experience financial ruin?  Who wanted to be buried in debt?  Just like what you stated, people have different personality, weaknesses, and strengths.  It is unfortunate that people who fall victim and become gambling addicts fail to notice that they are getting addicted to gambling and it is late when they discover that they became a gambling addict.

I don't think this is correct, be it rich, middle-class or poor, one can be addicted to gambling or any kind of addiction. Even people who do not have so much money either sell their properties, borrow or steal to gamble when they suffer from gambling addiction. The addiction basically has to do with lack of control in gambling, and when an individual lacks control in anything they do, they can go to any extent to make sure they do it, so not only rich people suffer from this.

In everything we do we must apply moderation, it's very possible to have a plan and limit but still fall into addiction of constant playing
Due to greed and other things. Gambling has a dopamine effect on the brain, most gamblers that are addicted and dealing with this problem are going through this. Even after winning they still find themselves playing more till they lose everything they have
Repeating the cycle of winning and losing gives them a sense of satisfaction even if it's ruining them constantly
Thats the dopamine effect of it.
Discipline is key, whether you think you are addicted or not do not let your life be centered around gambling

Addiction is surely not by choice and those who are addicted cannot be cured easily. Another thing that you mentioned here is that you have the budget for gambling and you have a plan but those who are addicted lack all these plans. If they were so capable of making risk management and money management plan, they would not be addictive in the first place.

It is the lack of portfolio management, greedy emotions and the desire to become rich with gambling mindset that makes the gambler addicted to gambling. Also, the worst part is that the addicted one never believes that he is being addicted so a cure becomes even more difficult.

That's right, logically no one would ever want to experience addiction, especially in an activity that involves money and risk. I often hear stories from several of my friends who say that they really want to get out of gambling activities, they even tell me with a sad face because gambling has made their life turn into a nightmare, especially experiencing financial suffering. In conclusion, when someone feels and realizes that since they have been addicted, they have experienced a downturn in their life, it is impossible for them to make addiction a choice from the start.

In fact, as you said, addiction doesn't work or doesn't come that way, this is something that happens naturally without the gambler realizing it, addiction is an addiction to something that makes them feel happy which happens because of money as an object. from winning, meaning that in some cases it is very likely that addiction occurs after someone succeeds in achieving victory, at which time there is an increase in beliefs and hopes which indirectly makes them always chase victory in various ways which are even considered unreasonable which also ultimately makes them they are trapped in a cycle of chasing wins in order to recover the losses they experience. On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that addiction does not happen overnight, meaning it requires a process and time, where the gambler must first experience changes in increasing winnings in gambling.

Oh, so you are a doctor are you? Because it sounds like you aren't even making a point. You are trying to disprove something with few sentences that's already proven by all legitimate medical science out there. So i am guessing you have ton of studies and research to back this up?

Is diabetes a choice too? Or your brain chemistry? I guess you can't be a heroin addict or addicted to alcohol without heroin or alcohol. Think it over again.

Your only argument using ableism as example, while being arrogant and disrespectful against anyone who suffers from addiction.

That is a common misconception many people have about addiction and how it works on people in general, they assume addiction is something which happens suddenly, when in reality, it is a slow process which starts when someone builds up tolerance to thrill and start to seek to gamble for longer periods of time and also using higher wagers in their preferred casino.
Actually, I don't think most of people who are indeed declared addicts to gambling had within their plans to become addicts, it was something that little-by-little escaped their control. Before they realized they were wagering more than could afford to lose and could not pass a single day without risking money.

That is the kind of general misconception which stop non-gamblers from having empathy for gamblers, they believe addiction is a choice, when in reality , it is not.

I understand what you mean here, you use the reality of the situation of both poor and rich people as a benchmark to determine who is most likely to be addicted, I understand that rich people have more money than poor people which meaning they have more opportunities to gamble than poor people, but I would say that even though poor people have a limited amount of money that doesn't mean they will just stop.

We can see that there are quite a few people who commit crimes such as stealing, robbing or defrauding other people, where most of these cases are committed by people who do not have the ability to continue to finance their desire to gamble, meaning they are poor people who already addicted. And also regarding rich people, I think it is clear that one of the reasons why they can succeed in becoming rich is because they have different life principles, have a different way of looking at money, and also have different ways of managing their money. usually they prioritize allocating some or all of their money to various things that have the potential to bring in greater profits, while we can see the concept of gambling, which is a chance activity that has no guarantee of always being profitable, meaning in my opinion it is quite the opposite. where rich people are less likely to get addicted than poor people, they just come to have fun.

One question that came back was do you think people who like to try their luck will be the majority or will those who already have enough conditions and material things in life dominate? Obviously just looking around is enough to see that the rich are too few while the poor are too many, trying their luck as their usual strategy while the rich are just at the threshold of enjoyment, gambling does not take up their time as much as making money. After all, people who are poor and do not have enough material in life always fight for their luck, but the fight comes at the expense of addiction followed by accumulating levels of debt.

Obviously, you don't know how addiction works. When you say addiction is a choice it means you're saying they chose to be addicted, like they purposely chose to be addicted. Addiction doesn't work like that. There's no single addict who consciously decides to be an addict.
Addiction starts in stages. Gambling may come in different ways, and one of those ways is by chasing your losses. When you constantly want to recover the money you've lost, you might get addicted.
It's something that happens over time and not overnight, the person might not even know he's getting addicted til it's too late. Addiction is not a choice, if you're not careful and make a conscious effort you might get addicted to gambling.

Getting addiction is because of what you do. When you playing gambling occasionally but you don't have a good self control, you can becomes addicted to gambling and your gambling activities will be more often than you can realizes. You will not see that your gambling activities will increase than before because you feels that you have a big passion to keeps playing gambling.

The other thing is you becomes more curious with gambling games and makes you playing gambling more often than before. If you used  before, you may increase your capital to something that will break your limits and that slowly turns you becomes addicted to gambling. You will start to difficult to stops gambling because you finds a pleasure from gambling and that will makes you stay in gambling for longer than before. Playing gambling must have control and limitation and other things so you will keeps aware from the gambling addiction while you can still enjoy your gambling activity. You can playing gambling anytime and can quit gambling anytime.

Although one can advise himself not to get addicted in gambling but the problem is being disciplined to maintain it to the end, for me addiction is not 100% our choice because most time gamblers may be going towards the lane of addiction unknowingly to them, although it has been said severally that gambling is an addictive thing that requires a high level of self control to stay in the safe lane, once one is involved in gambling there are some initial plans that you can't maintain, it is more easy to say than doing it, many addicted gambler never had the plan of being extreme gamblers but the end up being where they are today for unclarified reasons, so I feel that most times these things just happens and for us not to be addicted, we should see loss as a certainty and not really a mistake that needed to be corected along the line, if not, addiction will be the next destination, if an individual notice that they are easily carried away with Whatever they do, then I believe that gambling is not for such a person.

These addictions are often seen in rich people only. A poor or middle-class guy gambles only to test his luck. He can’t afford to be addicted to gambling. So yes, as a middle-class guy, I have never been addicted to gambling. Whenever I have some extra money, I just do sports betting by taking minimal risk. If you don’t have funds to gamble, how will you become addicted? If anyhow these addicts are stopped supplying funds, then I am sure their gambling habit will soon decrease.

this is a yes and no kind of question. Sometimes, you could be an addict but won't know you've gotten addicted to something untill someone point it out to you. Addiction most times is in phases, at the early stage you tend to feel 100% in charge of your gambling and it's possible you're at that phase and might think you can control how you choose to go about all your gambling habit. At the latter phase when you've probably gone too far into it, you find out you can control yourself but that the moment you don't pay serious attention to how you've gamble for the week that you end up going above your range. Gradually without paying attention to details you might end up becoming addicted. It's not everyone that gets seriously addicted and for some, they can easily retrace there steps and start ensuring that they regulate their gambling habit but for the majority of others, reckless gambling is what makes them to turn into strong addict.

I can't boast to have 100% control of the possibility of becoming addicted along the way but if I continue gambling the way I'm doing, the possibility of becoming addicted will be too slim.

What if you are already addicted and dont notice it? Never say never. Just joking But wasnt it noticed many times, that when person say he will never do or be something, it ends with this person being or doing opposite?

I would not say that it comes from discipline, but from people who surround person and his will. If a person is easy to fall under influence, then he would get addicted. Disciplined or not, if everyone gamble around you, you will become like them.

My suggestion, dont bother much about attention, dont focus on it, and you will never be addicted. If a person thinks to much about something (like addiction), he will become a prisoner of it. Dont build your life and experience around addiction, better get fun from gambling.

I will never get addicted to gambling, nor gambling will affect my life in a negative way.
I'm still gambling, but I can control it 100%, and I know when to gamble if I wanted to, and when not to gamble if not needed.

Getting addicted to gambling isn't a choice, or that's something that gamblers aren't thinking of, but their wrong decisions towards gambling leads them to getting addicted to it. If they only know when to stop if needed, they will not get addicted. If they only know the negative effects of gambling in the long run, then they will not spend too much time on it. If they only know that gambling can be addictive in the long run, then they will know when to stop.

Like I always say, it all comes to how disciplined are we and how good we are at controlling ourselves. Our decision-making can prevent us from getting addicted into gambling.

When someone gambles, I think there must be thoughts of winning, and when they have succeeded in winning, there will be thoughts of being able to get bigger wins and this is what usually makes them addicted. the thought of more profits that can be obtained is disastrous, apart from that I think everyone definitely wants bigger profits even though they already have profits, but who doesn't want more profits, right?
However, gambling is of course different because the winnings are based on luck so you cannot get them for sure, even though they win and that means they are lucky, but that doesn't mean that by continuing to gamble they will win again because they already feel that at that time they were lucky. Of course luck won't last long.

Big wins that are difficult to get in gambling should be a benchmark for not gambling excessively, apart from that, even small wins are the same, the point is that winnings at gambling are not easy to get, so we have to gamble with patience and awareness because when it's time for luck to be on our side, there will be victory occurred. It is not recommended to gamble excessively and do not have high hopes for gambling because the profits from gambling are not certain and clear.

I will say you are partly correct and partly wrong and I will try to explain. You are right in the sense that someone can actually take decision on how to gamble and then remove every other factor that can make him fail in that decision. For instance, a gambler can decide that he will gamble with only 1% of his income per month, in order to keep to this decision, he might decide to commit the balance to other things that may not be possible to divert the money into gambling, this way he has eliminated the chances of funding more than the percentage.

However, there are people who set rules for themselves but are unable to keep those rules. This happens and that is how addiction starts. We can't blame them completely, we cannot completely blame the gambler but we can only encourage everyone in that situation to put more effort and ensure he made rules and follow them.

Agreed, giving is like every other addiction.  People don't start anything wanting to get addicted but that's what happens.  It happens without you even realizing.  Before you kmwo it you can't live your life without something.  The trick is being able to manage the addiction amd find the right path out.  It's not 100% your choice that's just rediculous.