Topic: Additional subsidy for P2Pool users: 1-3btc/day - page 5. (Read 29282 times)
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As it stands any pool that has similar or less Hashpower than P2Pool has an incentive to join P2Pool as a supernode (perhaps even without informing its pool miners?) just on variance considerations alone ... plus that little extra from the donations.
I tried this briefly with mmpool to see how it would work. Unfortunately 10 second longpolls means every user of the mmpool would be constantly longpolling. Many would probably not get the longpoll message before another one went out. Without sending the longpoll to users (ie. trying to hide the fact that p2pool was being used) would result in a large number of stales. 
Yet another contribution:
txn: aeee9aeb2a560b6ca4ec09495419b41558b9638465a18177059f7a61d49fc2da
gogo P2Pool
txn: aeee9aeb2a560b6ca4ec09495419b41558b9638465a18177059f7a61d49fc2da
gogo P2Pool
This only applies to the additional subsidies. I assume it was because when dividing small amounts (like 1.5 Bitcoin) it creates very small amounts for the small miners, which can be troublesome to send (amounts less than the fee required to send them).
When the pool finds a block, you will receive your normal payment according to the work you've contributed. We've found several in the past day, so you should see some pending payouts.
Edit: Ha! I got a phone call while writing that, I see you found the answer before I finally posted.
Yeah, thanks for the info anyway. I can't believe I missed it when I read through that thread. When the pool finds a block, you will receive your normal payment according to the work you've contributed. We've found several in the past day, so you should see some pending payouts.
Edit: Ha! I got a phone call while writing that, I see you found the answer before I finally posted.
The pool found 3 blocks in my first ~10 hours of mining. A nice welcome indeed.
Hmm... Looks like you have to be eligible for a minimum amount of BTC to show up on http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5.
I can only see my address(es, guess I should consolidate) if I up the total "donation" to at least ~12 BTC.
I can only see my address(es, guess I should consolidate) if I up the total "donation" to at least ~12 BTC.
Just set up P2Pool last night. Used to be on BTCGuild and deepbit until their fees got too high, switched to Eligius briefly, but have some personal issues with the pool's operator, so decided to look into this thing. Honestly, the setup instructions for P2Pool make it look way more complicated than it really was. I was also using GUIMiner with Phoenix before, and had no idea how much easier (more automated) and better cgminer was. So, thanks. Extra incentives or not, this is definitely a better way to mine.
Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?
No, there is no minimum to the best of my knowledge, as soon as you get 1 share into the p2pool blockchain you qualify for a payout.Doesn't seem to be working.
Code:
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
Keep in mind that you can't access a different domain on client side ( eg. javascript ) due to sandbox violation. You have to do the AJAX requests on server side.
Edit: What is the current difficulty of a P2Pool share?
159.130410 at the time of this writing :-)
Changes pretty often.
OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:
http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html
It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.
Doesn't seem to be working.http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html
It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.
Code:
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?
You might need a recent browser (Firefox 3.5 or later AFAIR) as this uses AJAX with CORS which is a pretty new standard. Works for me.
No, there is no minimum to the best of my knowledge, as soon as you get 1 share into the p2pool blockchain you qualify for a payout.
As it stands any pool that has similar or less Hashpower than P2Pool has an incentive to join P2Pool as a supernode (perhaps even without informing its pool miners?) just on variance considerations alone ... plus that little extra from the donations.
Only pools that are >3 times bigger than P2pool stand to gain little from not joining. Inevitably, P2Pool will slowly absorb all the smaller pools gaining in size the whole time until there comes to a point ..... "There can be only One".
Edit: What is the current difficulty of a P2Pool share?
OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:
http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html
It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.
Doesn't seem to be working.http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html
It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.
Code:
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined
Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?
Agree - anyone want to get the word out?
Another contribution, txn: 1abc4acdf31ce7aad7e4be29f77514d98478c9992e3541137ef454a3e57c0c5b
Get paid to mine and do the right thing for the network..Not sure why it's not catching steam yet. But I still have at least 9 more days of contributions to go!! So set up P2Pool now and get mining!
Another contribution, txn: 1abc4acdf31ce7aad7e4be29f77514d98478c9992e3541137ef454a3e57c0c5b
Get paid to mine and do the right thing for the network..Not sure why it's not catching steam yet. But I still have at least 9 more days of contributions to go!! So set up P2Pool now and get mining!
I'm going to try to set up p2pool this weekend. If I can figure it out I'll put some money in for the cause.
It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?
Maybe some more statistics to prove p2pool's efficiency?
I mean, for example, estimated payout history for local miners (like yourbtc/ozcoin), share count history for mined blocks, etc.
I think it is hard to convince people without numbers/graphs/charts
OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:
http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html
It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.
I'm planning to donate some (about 5BTC) too, in a few days - to everyone except me ;-)
Ah yes, and stats at blockchain.info are wrong - I've already emailed piuk about it, but didn't get any reply so far.
I was assuming that's wrong, as the graph on the p2pool forum post hasn't changed much, but still appears to be live.
It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?
Maybe some more statistics to prove p2pool's efficiency?
I mean, for example, estimated payout history for local miners (like yourbtc/ozcoin), share count history for mined blocks, etc.
I think it is hard to convince people without numbers/graphs/charts
It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?
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