Topic: Advantage over the bookmaker. - page 2. (Read 1283 times)

You dont have one. The bookmaker is always in advantage.

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Also No.

Its all about luck then - since the games need your skill but the match will end with someone's luck being favored. Or else you could go for the games where one team is surely going to beat the other and in those the multipliers are all small so nothing much of a change with reflect in your capital.

However much we debate about sports betting being about skills, deep down we all know that it is ultimately on our luck, that little luck can be the winning or losing factor.

Sports betting has its own appeal for us, especially when we can bet on our favorite team, it becomes something that will create a different atmosphere when watching the match. Not to mention we can apply logical thinking when betting on a team, yes, although in the end what will determine it is the luck we have.
I myself win more when betting single, but when I bet multi I lose more. But still, multi betting is something that is more interesting for me to do than just betting on one match. Usually I bet by choosing a minimum of 3 matches. Honestly, it creates its own sensation when waiting for the results of the bets I make. Especially if what I bet on is a big match that brings together two big teams.

Maybe they find an exciting moment in sports betting than the other gambling games. The moment to analyze can makes them enjoy their time to finds the right team. If you have a good skills in analyzing the team more than the bookmaker, you will have a chance to benefit than them. But we know that not many people who can have a good skills to analyze the match so that can makes many people lost their money in gambling. That is because they can not finds more information that can be additional info to analyze each team and find what thing that can make them have the potential to win. But we know that to beat the bookmaker is difficult and that means we must learn more about the analysis until we have a good skills. But that will not be a guarantee to beat them as gambling is not a place to make money.

Simply a sport can provide the participant with intuition about the chances as well as in a knowledge-based manner, they also have enough evidence to know which side the chances are on and how can bookmakers turn around such obvious things, they also cannot strongly influence the match when it is a separate field and once they want to take shortcuts to control, many powerful elements can stop them. The advantage here is that the gambler does not completely turn his back to be used as a puppet by the house, he can directly face it and although there are tricks to disrupt the prediction, the winning rate is still at an acceptable level.

Have you won a lot of money in spot betting yourself? From what you say it doesn't look like it.

According to what you say most people should neither win nor lose money in the long run, when what happens is the opposite, most people lose, otherwise the bookies would have to close down. They play with an advantage by offering the odds and that's why they make money.

For me, sports betting has already paved the way for you not to be under an unfair system except you are still not playing the real matches but the virtual ones. This is not a true outsmarting decision but you are already on a better path because you are not being deceived to play against an algorithm you can never beat.

It's 50/50 between bookmakers and the bettor in sports betting, so there is no serious advantage aside from this fairness. This is smart enough, still, a bettor has the better advantage only if he is good at what he is doing and leaving no stone unturned.

As a gambler that's into sports betting you must be updated when it comes to sports new and you must take out a lot of time to analyze games, this involves doing a lot of statistical research before placing your bets, doing this can give a a slight leverage over the market not a complete advantage. The odds are always against the gamblers at all times so gamblers come up with strategies to be in profit, a lot of these strategies as we know have failed countless times. The only way to have some advantage over the bookmakers is when you can get your hands on an arbitrage opportunity which is very difficult to come by

Yes, most people are more interested in sports betting than other gambling bets because they have their own differences, namely that sports betting mostly uses predictions by looking at the skills shown by both teams, while online and offline gambling bets, although using skills to play, the results cannot be predicted to win or lose.
And I agree with you, our advantage is when we feel like we have won and are satisfied with every bet we play, even though we lose a little, but we have entertained ourselves.

Define easy..
It's easier to win a handicap if you're going +2 for the outsider that is 4:1 but it's harder for the one betting on the favorite to win by two, Handicaps are not easier, they are just the reflection of modified conditions.

And in my humble opinion, unless you pick a total outsider that you think might turn to surprise us, like Liverpool losing to Nottingham which was at that moment 4.10 for x2 are a waste of time, most are at such low odds 5 victories in a row can;t give you enough profit to overcome one loss, I have a thread about low bets and I can tell you it's not going well at all.

Well it's a very difficult one to do honestly, you having an advantage over the booke makers is going to require a very high skill and luck definitely because you definitely have to be lucky enough to be ahead of them if you actually get to be because this people always have the house edge that keeps them ahead of you in that they aren't in t for the Short run but to keep you coming and loosing more than you win which is actually a long term deal so they keep that as an edge by enticing you with a small amount of win probably on your initial trials and sometimes later after several losses so you get a delusional hope which may later turn out false .

Using money that we are ready to lose is the principle of gambling. therefore control the money you allocate for gambling well.
Bookmakers will always offer reasonable odds. sometimes they even increase the Odds for some big matches that affect the gambler's thinking.
Bookmakers will be more favored when gamblers are not satisfied with single bets. they offer parlay bets, and that is more profitable for them. although the odds offered will be better for gamblers, but the odds will be more profitable for bookmakers. that's because the chances of winning will be smaller with just a little defeat, gamblers lose all the bets they have won.

You are right, bookmakers they will have more advantage than those who place bets and in this type of sports match of course they have a good understanding of a match and also the type of bet they make and only luck and also the right analysis will win the sports bet, if we do not have information about a team that we will place bets on then it is very unlikely to win the bet we placed.

Choosing to gamble with funds that we can afford when we lose will certainly be very important and will also help in maintaining the funds that we will use to bet and also when losing in betting, because when someone loses and cannot accept it will of course be very disappointing and they can make mistakes that will add to the losses they experience.

The luck factor affects both the bookmakers and the gambler but the former has more advantages than the latter. It's true that if there were no luck factor the bookmaker would have it all and remain completely in control and superior to the gambler like you said. The bookmaker has more information at hand to analyze the outcome of matches than the gambler. Unless a gambler has some privileged information that can favor his bet otherwise they should just analyze based on team performance and the rest. Gamblers should bet with the amount that they can afford to loose because of the luck factor.

Bookmakers have their own difference between the odds, the spread that they lay down seems to me to be their advantage over the player. And the bookmaker simply waits until the players make mistakes in betting, this approach in my opinion is also decisive. Only a player who has some information about a fixed match can have an advantage over the bookmaker, but I think that these are big exceptions in our time.

Bookmakers set their lines to balance the action, so they aren't really my opponent since they’re just the facilitators. I just want to be on the right side most of the time so I can win in the long run. I only need to hit a 53% winning rate, so let’s give it a try.

like I mentioned, they don't have the edge because we are not playing against the house here.

Of course, if you can find the right value in your bets, your real goal is to win over the long run. This means everything you do should be well-planned. Don’t place bets if you're not sure or if you haven't analyzed it properly.

I'll tell you how to beat any bookmaker in the world.
Step 1: Find a bookmaker that accepts UFC bets.
Step 2: Make a research on UFC fighter that will be in Khabib's team and is from Daghestan Once you find a guy from Daghestan, make a bet on him winning the UFC match because they never lose Bet on him winning his first UFC match, then make a bet on second, third... 18th match in a row and finally if we multiply all of those bets, you'll be left with millions of dollars in your pocket.
You might find it funny but I'm seriously saying, this is probably the best strategy. Just imagine if you made a bet on Khabib, this guy won 29 matches in a row, without a single lose.

Bookies have all the advantages mostly. Tons of information at their hands is probably all put into a formula that gives them their numbers. Home or away game, injury report(which is HUGE in some sports), coach info, weather, all sorts of shit.

Most of the info is available to john q public, but we don't always take advantage of it or know where to look. This is mainly talking about betting spreads. Where 1 could actually be considered a genius and have an edge vs the bookies is by being able to predict the upsets. Betting the moneyline on certain events that have huge odds in favor of the favorite team.

This is like saying "I know that a huge number of scientists say that our planet is round. However, if we still treat it as flat...".

You want to convince yourself that there is some way to systematically beat their algos, but as explained before they have the advantage of benefiting from big numbers. You can be lucky enough to beat the house, but not in a sustained manner over time.

If you are looking for a source of income, sports betting is not. If it were, all sports experts would be rich.

Not quite, you must be smarter in picking games with attractive odds. It's similar to poker where it's not about winning every hand but about leaving the table with more money than you started with.
So if e.g. you bet on underdogs with really attractive odds, you'd still lose more often than win, but the payout for the winning bets could be high enough to turn profitable. It's all about the value not the frequency of winning.

I don't think anybody has any advantage over the bookies.
For example,  if two teams want to play a match against each other and assume the two things are of the same quality and form, the chances of each team winning will be 50-50. So you'll see that their odds are almost the same, if not the same. If one team is way stronger than the other team and there's a big chance of winning, their old will be very small compared to the odds of the other team.
Now since the odd is so small, you either be a very high staker to win any reasonable amount of money on that game. When you stake high, that means more risk and it could be more money for the bookie if you lose, because there is always a probability of you losing.
If you don't stake high you'll need to add another match to your bet to accumulate the odds. You either pick games or options with bigger odds or pick more games with smaller odds and both these scenarios increase your chances of losing the bet.

So you see that you're never at an advantage. You can never be certain until you win and that's the only time you're at an advantage. The bookies hold all the cards actually. They decide if an option should be available or not. They decide of the odds of every option. If the option is certain to happen in the game, they either make it unavailable or give it a ridiculously low odd that wouldn't make sense to put money on it.
So the way I see it, your only advantage over the bookmakers is when you've won your bet.