Topic: Advantage over the bookmaker. - page 4. (Read 826 times)

I  guessed there are ways of outsmarting some bookmakers which is significant to the amount of knowledge/information that one may have about certain games.

Someone told me a story about him and some guys in the late 90s where at that time they had a source for getting information on how games will and betting with that info often makes them winners, some of them literally made a lot to even start up their own Investment that is now a source of living for them and family.
Getting this info isn't easy and nobody will often speak about it now because we all are aware of the implications of such but that doesn't happen it still doesn't exist.

I know there's something as luck in gambling but I have discarded it from my gambling because it limits someone from improving and really taking time to come up with a more better strategy for gambling.

Also I think not every gamblers believe or depends on luck to win especially those who are serious with gambling.
Even if we speak of gambling as a means of entertainment (I'm still in this category) there are many who are really serious with it some as made it a part/entire source of living and I think before they could decide to focus on this then they know often they will be getting the better of these sport bookmakers since I wonder why if anyone would make gambling a part/entire source of income if they depends on luck often because they will bankrupt in the end.

Answering your questions precisely is just that the advantage over the bookmakers is about making your own research about the possibility of a match going towards the directions of the bookmakers so when you do some analysis and check the statistics of the events you want to stake on and discovers something different from that of the bookmakers which means you have played on their intelligence and have taken real advantage of them because most bookmakers believes that majority are likely to go in their direction so when you go against them and see the outcome of an event differently from how they thought it would be it means you have already outsmart them and taken advantage but the real advantage will come if when you go against the odds of the bookmakers and it works for you and you are able to win from it that is the time that you will actually feel the impact of the advantage you took over the bookmakers.

The only way to have an advantage over the bookmaker is if you have a cheat or hack system which Is almost impossible, everything has been carefully programmed and calculated to be in their favour, like experienced gamblers will always say: it doesn't matter who wins the House always wins, little things can give you a little leverage over the market and one of them is your analysis, taking out your time to do proper research can give you a little advantage but this doesn't mean you'll always be in profit

In fact, bookies have designed it in such a way for each match with the odds they have provided, and it is clear that the choice is not more profitable for us. but talking about the benefits for bettors, we are given many choices, we can choose a variety of odds available, according to what we want to make a decision on betting choices. that's the advantage we have, although it is not more profitable than bookies. because, every choice is risky. the only advantage we can conclude, yes, is none other than getting a win from our bet. well, what I know, bookies will always benefit. bookies give us the freedom to choose betting options according to what we want, they leave all the choices to the bettors in their bets. at least, in general like that. that's why, we are the bettors who have to be smart in choosing every bet.

I believe there is actually not much advantage to be taken off the bookmarker. Actually, if we think a little bit about it, it is more likely for the book makers and the operators od casinos to have access to privileged information than those who are simply betting for the sake of entertainment or to pocket some bucks casually.
To me honest, if I was a bookmarker, I would try at first to get money solely by the volume of the book itself, instead trying to guess the winners and loser by myself and use money of the business itself to try to make a profit.

I tend to treat the bookies and the casinos in the same way in terms of perceived advantage they can have over bettors: the house is always supposed to win and "bookies" are nothing but houses.

I have never thought of any advantage I may be having over the bookmakers because if am to be honest with myself I know I don't have any I can lay onto except for luck. If luck shines on my bets there's nothing a bookmaker can do about it.

Maybe it would help to a very large extend  for gamblers to have that consciousness within and accept that they have no atom of advantage over the bookmakers therefore, they should make their staking amount within a moderate range that doesn't point to losing beyond what they can afford to lose. We all gamble to win base on luck.

trying to outsmart book markers is not necessary except in certain cases when you feel the odds don't quite suite in well with the analysis you've done. The end product of gambling is to win at a bet and iether you're going along with the odds coming from the book makers or you want to go against what the odd says  just to risk it once in a while which should be totally of your making and not something you do too often.  The resources available at the disposal of the book markers for carrying out thier analyssis far exceed what you have at your possession and what makes them relevant in the long run is the fact that there odds have greater chances of playing out the way they've made it.

Exceptional case always exist though slim and in Those instances, if you feel that the odds are biased, you can carry out your rely on what you think is right.

Basically the answer is yes, but bookmarker will mark you as "sharp"

SHARP meaning for the player who have advantage or good against the bookmakers, most likely you will get limited size amount to be bet or they refuse you to betting in their casino. If you question, it's these real ? yes the answer is real.

Sportbet & Blackjack it's one of the game while you have a better advantage against the house, that's why more likely you will get back off, limited bet size amount betting like 500-1000$ or they refusing you to play on their casino.

Just search in youtube, "Blackjack Player Gets Back-off". It's real on the real casino, for online casino once they knew you are to be good (they will closed your account or limited the bet size just few hundred dollars)

Then you should approach this type of activity with all responsibility and seriousness, as in any other business done for the sake of making money.

Hmm, it seems to me that there are no advantages for a single gambler.

The bookmaker has incomparably more resources and the analysis of sports events is carried out by a team, not a single employee. Also, the members of this team are not simple gamblers, most often professionals in their field with experience and knowledge that ordinary gamblers probably don't have.

The chances are not equal and the gambler can only be helped by luck / chance, which the bookmaker failed to foresee (chance factor).

If you assemble your team of experienced gamblers.

The bookmaker and the gambler do not know the outcome of match as both of them have not seen the future. However, bookmaker will give you odds according to his analysis and the gambler have to accept any odds offered by him and hope that the team he selected wins the match.
It is just the game of luck for both the gambler and the bookmaker but I see one advantage for the bookmaker.

The gambler usually place a single bet on a match and he will either win or lose the bet. On the other hand, the bookmakers takes a lot of bets from different gamblers and even if he loses some bets he can recover money by other bets on the same match that the gamblers lost (meaning he gets the money).

There are bookmakers you can take advantage of, especially if they allow bets while the match is live. People have tried doing this in some soccer games and making money. There are prediction YouTube channels that somehow predict outcomes accurately and riding on these predictions is quite an advantage as a user. However, bookmakers win all the time.


That's one to take advantage of the bookie. Match fixing though is hard to spot. UFC for example is partnering with Stake so if UFC is fixing matches, I'm almost sure Stake will be notified.

The advantage is that you can belong to a prediction group where there are some experienced sports analyst who can give some good predictions. Their forecast are not always correct but you could see that the analysis makes lots of sense.
I have not discovered any advantage over bookmaker, some folks have claimed they have but kept it secret. It is possible to have an advantage if you have an insider who can give you information that is not in the public domian. There have been cases where some players or coaches engage in some illegal activities like match fixing. People who are aware of such an arrangement, could take advantage of it and cheat the bookmaker. But like I said, this is a criminal act and should be discouraged.

If you compare bookies with players, it is clear that it is not an equal comparison, like water and oil, it never mixes and the same goes for gamblers and bookies, Far from being grilled, whatever you do, the bookie makes more profit than the players, the bookie has a watch to arrange bets, the player only does it based on the bookie's watch, obviously there is no advantage for the player.

There is a clear profit, you get it when you win, this only happens to a few people, one bet, the dealer doesn't, the profit ratio between us and the dealer is 100/2, clearly the dealer wins more when it comes to gambling.

No, this question can be taken as an example of the case that happened to musician Drake recently, he lost millions of dollars again and lost, just imagine if there were 10 people like Drake betting on the same bookie and they lost, 5 more people won with bet $100/person, One result obtained by a bookie like Drake betting is difficult enough to cover the winnings of 1000 other users, meaning the bookie is superior in terms of gambling.

Even if sports betting is done for entertainment, there is still the intention to win from it.

It may not be a personal advantage. But the one advantage that gamblers have against the bookmaker is that no matter how they choose to select the odds or the factors that they look at, they are never really in complete control. Things can always still go against them and come the way of gamblers like myself.

If there were no luck factor, bookmakers would have had it all and remain completely superior.

1. None. I don't think we have an advantage with them.
2. No.
3. No.

It's not that I am pessimistic but they do have the connections to give the best odds out there that will only work for them. I bet they have known analysts in different sports to help them out in making those odds that will profit them more.
Now, we don't have that kind of power unless you are an analyst yourself. But, I doubt you could be a good one who can handle many sports. Perhaps, one or two and that's it, so that you can focus more and increase your chance to win.
Still, there's the luck part that you need. I have made a lot of underdog bets that shockingly won. One x18 for a team in basketball, a superunderdog, and at that time Alexa Grasso claimed her title which is x7.00 and more in other sports.
I am not an analyst on both sport but I think there's a part where luck is on my side and my instincts told me to bet for them.

I believe having an edge over them is understandable, knowing they have the tools to calculate those odds. When the bettors have calculating tools, you can use arbitrage betting.

Analyzing sports would help you take advantage, in my opinion.

The only advantage that the gamblers have is if they can find EV+ bets, if they can't, they have no advantage over the bookmaker.

Even you have knowledge, analysis etc etc that you able to predict the match with higher chance to win, it's not advantage, but you're able to beat the system without advantage. It's a big win when you can beat system that disadvantage you compared to you have advantage and you already know you will win in the end.

There's hardly any advantage that we could gain lol. I highly doubt a bookmaker is alone, and even if they were, their pretty much privy to a bunch of info as well as some tools that help them analyze stuff. Just the amount of data they can collate is already big enough of an advantage imo, let alone other stuff that they have that help in their analysis.

There's only ever going to be a big enough advantage if say, a player hides something literally from everyone else and only reveals it to you, and it's a really big game changer. Doesn't matter what it is but as long as it can influence the result of a game, it should be more than enough to call an advantage. Highly doubt that's going to happen though and even if it did, there'd probably be calls of match fixing or something.

If you are referring to bookmaker, I doubt that we will have such advantage on them. They have this modeling analysis and have a lot of data and for sure they are using it to make the correct prediction or at least it's what they think that it is fair for the gamblers.

And with that, I doubt that they will make such a mistakes, probably the advantage that we have is to go against what they listed and not bet on the favorite and go with the underdog. Sometimes we go this way if we had like a hunch or something, and we do hope that we win.

While betting smarter than the bookmaker means that we're winning against them, it doesn't have to be like that. Just bet and predict, have some good analysis, and be good to go.

Not that much, and what I can only say is that I bet on games that I know and maybe that is my advantage as a sports bettor whether it's against the bookmakers or not.

Yes, be prepared and researchful about your potential bets. Know the sports you're in and that's an advantage.