I'm a bit biased, being a pool owner, but I think *excessive* advertising is the issue. Many pools post huge ads and spam them multiple times a page, which is bad. I usually post a single, concise message in a thread that we've added a coin to our pool, which I wouldn't classify quite the same way and would expect many people find useful.
If the rule is going to remain as-is, it should also apply to advertising by ALL service providers in threads then, like exchanges, mining rental sites, cloud mining sites, ASIC hardware companies, etc. There's a lot of spam from those sources.
Topic: Advertising spam is not allowed - page 22. (Read 668456 times)
Also if you guys are gonna ban pool might as well ban exchanges from posting because they post as much as pool op's do.
Advertising mining pools is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, altcoin announcement threads. Mining pool ops should make one thread within the Mining section of Alt Currencies. Do not make a separate thread for each coin. Most OP's already link to pools available so advertising your pool is unnecessary and leads to too much spam.
Good!
Ban sockpuppet newbie accounts.
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
Next, this. Please.
Could go a step further. Not allow ANN's to be posted by new posters without a decent post count and history...
Ok....
So, please mod the following:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/eutopium-upm-social-enterprise-of-mystery-truth-knowledge-education-702380
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=702380.193;msg=8126309
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=702380.185;msg=8126140
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=702380.184;msg=8126043
Rivrcoin thread - "Flashmine"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-rivr-coin-x13-powposno-premine-riverbank-shape-your-world-ninja-719466
HashHot
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-rivr-coin-x13-powposno-premine-riverbank-shape-your-world-ninja-719466
LightningHash
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8119179 - is this one OK?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annekita-x11-powpos5000-block-pow-3-exchanges-715696
PoolPE
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annekita-x11-powpos5000-block-pow-3-exchanges-715696
MinerPools
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-rivr-coin-x13-powposno-premine-riverbank-shape-your-world-ninja-719466
So, please mod the following:
Rivrcoin thread - "Flashmine"
HashHot
LightningHash
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8119179 - is this one OK?
PoolPE
MinerPools
make your own forum guys and allow ANN on it, you don't have to use bitcointalk, I'm sure you guys can come up with a reddit type announce type site and pool ads and such
Advertising mining pools is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, altcoin announcement threads. Mining pool ops should make one thread within the Mining section of Alt Currencies. Do not make a separate thread for each coin. Most OP's already link to pools available so advertising your pool is unnecessary and leads to too much spam.
Good!
Ban sockpuppet newbie accounts.
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
Next, this. Please.
I think banning pools from advertising in threads is too harsh. There should be rules about how they are presented and how often they are posted maybe, but an outright ban? It's not the right solution.
Ban sockpuppet newbie accounts.
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
youre a newb, newb.
Ban sockpuppet newbie accounts.
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
newbie accounts can only post on certain forums for 14 -30 days (and not on altcoin ann threads- to drastically reduce the spam and baseless fud on these threads)
Please save us.
Thanks
Advertising mining pools is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, altcoin announcement threads. Mining pool ops should make one thread within the Mining section of Alt Currencies. Do not make a separate thread for each coin. Most OP's already link to pools available so advertising your pool is unnecessary and leads to too much spam.
In other words, "we will delete things that no longer work on this board, rather than fix them"
Seeing flound1129 coming to post here stating that he finds this new rule ridiculous I'm starting to think that it might be the most controversial rule addition bitcointalk ever had. I'm not sure if this was a univeral decision, but I can't see a way that all members of the staff would agree to this. In fact, I personally had never seen a single person complaining about updates posted by pools. They were a really small chunk of what is beeing marked as spam. And in fact, pools are a public service. Operators rely on a (usually never more than 2%) fee to maintain them. Many of them are putting out incredible efforts and deliver amazing results for the miners. It's going to be the first time I'm coming out as a rule, but I agree with flound1129. This decision not only is ridiculous, but bans the kind of posts that were some of the most usefull among the spam. Who is going to get harmed by a single update if it's in the right section? Even if it's advertising, updates about pools adding coins are really useful if you're a miner. I'm sure most of us will know what I'm talking about. If you've ever mined you know why you need to be there as early as possible. Throw your hash to a pool before the big guns arrive. etc. etc.
This new rule is bad because not only it's going to make a mine's life harder, but it's also going to favor the older and bigger pools. This way making distributed mining for smaller coins harder. Oh and please, tell me how much spam is this rule saving us from? I understand this rule sounds somewhat reasonable, but some of those updates were actually usefull! I'm saying that there's no reason for this rule to exist, I know you'll disagree. But beeing so strict about this is not giving more to this community rather than what it takes away from it.
This new rule is bad because not only it's going to make a mine's life harder, but it's also going to favor the older and bigger pools. This way making distributed mining for smaller coins harder. Oh and please, tell me how much spam is this rule saving us from? I understand this rule sounds somewhat reasonable, but some of those updates were actually usefull! I'm saying that there's no reason for this rule to exist, I know you'll disagree. But beeing so strict about this is not giving more to this community rather than what it takes away from it.
So if a pool owner posts his pool in a thread... he will get banned??
How about limiting that post too 1 in each announcement thread?
Im really sorry I have too say this... But this is NOT the priority you should be looking at right now with all those scamcoins around these days..
People lose money everyday over scams...
But instead of helping the community, by setting stricter rules for coin announcements on here... you worry about poolowners who advertise their pools...
I really cant understand this... Sorry
How about limiting that post too 1 in each announcement thread?
Im really sorry I have too say this... But this is NOT the priority you should be looking at right now with all those scamcoins around these days..
People lose money everyday over scams...
But instead of helping the community, by setting stricter rules for coin announcements on here... you worry about poolowners who advertise their pools...
I really cant understand this... Sorry
+1 Pool ops need to be allowed to post at least ONCE on a thread, if it's more than one post then treat it as Spam and punish it, but doing this you're only affecting our jobs. Please reconsider this decision.
Agree 1000%!!! Pool operators need to be able to post once in a thread. Even if it's just stating that their pool is up and running.
So if a pool owner posts his pool in a thread... he will get banned??
How about limiting that post too 1 in each announcement thread?
Im really sorry I have too say this... But this is NOT the priority you should be looking at right now with all those scamcoins around these days..
People lose money everyday over scams...
But instead of helping the community, by setting stricter rules for coin announcements on here... you worry about poolowners who advertise their pools...
I really cant understand this... Sorry
How about limiting that post too 1 in each announcement thread?
Im really sorry I have too say this... But this is NOT the priority you should be looking at right now with all those scamcoins around these days..
People lose money everyday over scams...
But instead of helping the community, by setting stricter rules for coin announcements on here... you worry about poolowners who advertise their pools...
I really cant understand this... Sorry
+1 Pool ops need to be allowed to post at least ONCE on a thread, if it's more than one post then treat it as Spam and punish it, but doing this you're only affecting our jobs. Please reconsider this decision.
I am a pool op, and I actually support this.
Listen, I've seen many pool ops post large image advertisements of their pool. This advertisement would then get quoted countless times. That definitely spam's up a thread.
There are other ways to advertise a new pool, like SuprNova just posted, the main page of the pool op's website, and a twitter feed.
However, I do think mod's should also do something about the FUD spreaders, don't just come down on the pool ops.
Listen, I've seen many pool ops post large image advertisements of their pool. This advertisement would then get quoted countless times. That definitely spam's up a thread.
There are other ways to advertise a new pool, like SuprNova just posted, the main page of the pool op's website, and a twitter feed.
However, I do think mod's should also do something about the FUD spreaders, don't just come down on the pool ops.
FUD is healthy and needed if there is a free for all scam environment..
funny you say they should so something about FUD'ers and NOT the scammers LOLOLOL
that is a coin cloners desperate little attempt to cry for protection for your shit coin cloning here i think.
guys don't forget half these coin cloners run pools too..
how else do you think they collect those bounties LOL
and if anyone thinks i just said that because i am trying to cover my own behavior i am not..
i rarely ever post on coins in the ANN section and i actually try and leave them alone ..no matter how scammy they are.
simply because my posts will not do anything but bloat the forum.. and it won't do any good
AND i don't want to bump their crap coin topics for them hahha
cool !
this shows you guys care.
maybe for your *own reasons though hahaha
it makes sense to me (my 2 cents)
guys their forum database here must be getting huge
i said long ago these post spammers are going to force this forum to clamp down sooner or later with more and more rules..
it's commons sense really
action causes bloat then it has to be stemmed or dealt with in some way.. sooner or later
and we can bitch about HOW they have to stem the tide but regardless they have to do something.
this shows you guys care.
maybe for your *own reasons though hahaha
it makes sense to me (my 2 cents)
guys their forum database here must be getting huge
i said long ago these post spammers are going to force this forum to clamp down sooner or later with more and more rules..
it's commons sense really
action causes bloat then it has to be stemmed or dealt with in some way.. sooner or later
and we can bitch about HOW they have to stem the tide but regardless they have to do something.
As a pool op I still think this is bullshit for the reasons I mentioned in previous posts.
Sending a PM to the dev/announcer is a crap shoot. Maybe he'll add it to the OP, maybe he won't. The only thing guaranteed is that he won't do it fast. This gives the devs control over what pools are "blessed" enough to be advertised, and us operators who put in the effort to setup a pool might get screwed by not being listed in the OP. I see a thread where everyone is complaining that all the pools are down, so I bust balls and get one setup - and have to wait on the dev to announce it in the OP? Maybe never even announce it at all? Bullshit.
This also opens the door for shady launches where one pool gets 100% of the hashrate, this will of course end up being the pool of the dev's choosing, since being the first one to post "We are up and running" in the thread will no longer be allowed. So, if I stay up until silly o'clock in the morning to make the launch and be first pool available it might just be for nothing, if the dev decides not to pay attention to his PM's, or decides he likes a different pool better and announces them first. Bullshit.
During launch, shit happens fast - pool ops need to be able to post status updates and advertise that their pool is working. Devs already have enough to do and should not have to babysit PM's and continue updating the OP for pool updates, and miners shouldn't have to keep checking back on page 1 to get those updates either.
Banning *ALL* advertisements because of a few spammers is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Don't ban the entire practice of advertising pools - do your job: moderate, and ban those abusing the forum. If it's a problem (and I agree it is) then try something else, for example:
- Ban the users blatantly and constantly spamming their pools (they are easy to find)
- Limit pool advertisements to 5 lines of 12pt text or less and one 80x80 px image
- Require pool operators to pay a modest annual fee ($20 or so?) allowing them to advertise
- Any combination of the above
Yes - you heard me - I am willing to pay for the right to advertise. I'm sure others are as well.
Sending a PM to the dev/announcer is a crap shoot. Maybe he'll add it to the OP, maybe he won't. The only thing guaranteed is that he won't do it fast. This gives the devs control over what pools are "blessed" enough to be advertised, and us operators who put in the effort to setup a pool might get screwed by not being listed in the OP. I see a thread where everyone is complaining that all the pools are down, so I bust balls and get one setup - and have to wait on the dev to announce it in the OP? Maybe never even announce it at all? Bullshit.
This also opens the door for shady launches where one pool gets 100% of the hashrate, this will of course end up being the pool of the dev's choosing, since being the first one to post "We are up and running" in the thread will no longer be allowed. So, if I stay up until silly o'clock in the morning to make the launch and be first pool available it might just be for nothing, if the dev decides not to pay attention to his PM's, or decides he likes a different pool better and announces them first. Bullshit.
During launch, shit happens fast - pool ops need to be able to post status updates and advertise that their pool is working. Devs already have enough to do and should not have to babysit PM's and continue updating the OP for pool updates, and miners shouldn't have to keep checking back on page 1 to get those updates either.
Banning *ALL* advertisements because of a few spammers is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Don't ban the entire practice of advertising pools - do your job: moderate, and ban those abusing the forum. If it's a problem (and I agree it is) then try something else, for example:
- Ban the users blatantly and constantly spamming their pools (they are easy to find)
- Limit pool advertisements to 5 lines of 12pt text or less and one 80x80 px image
- Require pool operators to pay a modest annual fee ($20 or so?) allowing them to advertise
- Any combination of the above
Yes - you heard me - I am willing to pay for the right to advertise. I'm sure others are as well.
+1 I agree with you 100%. This is our job, and sending PMs to coin devs is useless most of the times.
Advertising mining pools is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, altcoin announcement threads. Mining pool ops should make one thread within the Mining section of Alt Currencies. Do not make a separate thread for each coin. Most OP's already link to pools available so advertising your pool is unnecessary and leads to too much spam.
Is it okay for a coin developer to create a thread in the Mining section called "How to mine MySpecialCoin" or whatever, and link to it in the Coin's Announcement thread as a place for pool operators to post if they add support for the coin? It consolidates posts into two places then for the coin: (1) Announcement post for all the discussion and needed info and FUD and whatever else someone wants to post, and (2) Mining post where pools can post, as can folks working on new mining software or hardware that impacts that coin.
Seems like an okay solution. My worry with relying on the Dev/Dev Team is that a decentralized system all of a sudden becomes much more centralized.
just advertise your pool in your sig, like every other adv
Yep!
Just because a pool is advertised in someone's sig doesn't mean they support a particular coin.
In my case, should I list all 50 coins I support in my sig? That would get obnoxious fast.
just advertise your pool in your sig, like every other adv
Yep!
This is ridiculous. You do nothing to stop the endless flow of scammy shitcoins, but people posting USEFUL INFORMATION about what pools are available for a coin is now somehow a problem?
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