Topic: Advertising spam is not allowed - page 24. (Read 668456 times)

As a pool op I still think this is bullshit for the reasons I mentioned in previous posts.

Sending a PM to the dev/announcer is a crap shoot.  Maybe he'll add it to the OP, maybe he won't.  The only thing guaranteed is that he won't do it fast.  This gives the devs control over what pools are "blessed" enough to be advertised, and us operators who put in the effort to setup a pool might get screwed by not being listed in the OP.  I see a thread where everyone is complaining that all the pools are down, so I bust balls and get one setup - and have to wait on the dev to announce it in the OP?  Maybe never even announce it at all?  Bullshit.

This also opens the door for shady launches where one pool gets 100% of the hashrate, this will of course end up being the pool of the dev's choosing, since being the first one to post "We are up and running" in the thread will no longer be allowed.  So, if I stay up until silly o'clock in the morning to make the launch and be first pool available it might just be for nothing, if the dev decides not to pay attention to his PM's, or decides he likes a different pool better and announces them first.  Bullshit.

During launch, shit happens fast - pool ops need to be able to post status updates and advertise that their pool is working.  Devs already have enough to do and should not have to babysit PM's and continue updating the OP for pool updates, and miners shouldn't have to keep checking back on page 1 to get those updates either.

Banning *ALL* advertisements because of a few spammers is cutting off your nose to spite your face.  Don't ban the entire practice of advertising pools - do your job: moderate, and ban those abusing the forum.  If it's a problem (and I agree it is) then try something else, for example:

- Ban the users blatantly and constantly spamming their pools (they are easy to find)
- Limit pool advertisements to 5 lines of 12pt text or less and one 80x80 px image
- Require pool operators to pay a modest annual fee ($20 or so?) allowing them to advertise
- Any combination of the above

Yes - you heard me - I am willing to pay for the right to advertise.  I'm sure others are as well.

sounds good...

Yeah, that sounds fair.  Dev's might not have time to update the OP or they maybe offline at the moment.  Mod, how about only 1 pool advertising per thread?  

BadBear, you should clarify this a bit more. Pool advertising is permited entirely exept only a single post and that't the end? Of pool opperators can still advertise through signatures for example?

Mod: Can we announce when the pool is up and running with the source?, this allows miners to know which pool to choose from at launch.
Also, can we answer miner's questions that usually come up in the thread directed to each of us?

Not our problem. If a dev wants his coin to succeed he will do everything possible to make sure he does have the pool list included. If he can't be bothered to do that then why would anyone want to bother with it?




Remove scamcoins? Ok.  *deletes alt currencies* 




We can press one button and ban an account, and remove all it's posts automatically. I don't think it's going to be a problem.


That's part of what prompted this, now it's fair for everyone, instead of some arbitrary rules that nobody is going to remember. Besides, this isn't some special rule just for alt currencies, when is the last time you saw a bitcoin mining pool advertising outside of Mining>Pools? Alt currencies has always received less moderation than the rest of the forum, and probably always will, but the pool spam is crazy and we're tired of dealing with the spam generated. 

for these three posts was banned for 5 days


excalibur2010

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8083296
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annwinecoin-scrypt-powpos-no-ipo-100million-711553
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8081313


in my opinion this is nonsense and more like a fight with competitors

Very true, it is difficult to police, and I wouldn't even know what to recommend as a solution because any mod would go nuts with the altcoins section of BCT.
No matter the reason, it's a great sign some of the lawlessness is being swept up. As I said I'm on the fence with pool advertising as I don't mine. But it's as good a place as any to start cleaning up so I (we?) appreciate the gesture.

yes but scammers coins over the last month we earned 1.78 dollars

it scares

mining pools that charge zero fees are the best

cool
that of 10 coins in the best case 2 is not a Scam! nobody cares (and those 2 are not in a human way to start!!!!!) I spend my time and power, and people spend their money is also no interest. Yes Yes Yes let those think about the flood in the topics!!!! and not about the money spent on the rental of facilities, servers, electricity. I'm tired add coins extracted up to 2 days and then cunt coin!!!


sorry for my English

That's cool as long as it's allowed to be listed in the OP.  Some pools over advertise and it just adds way too many pages to a thread.

I think it's fair to block the AD

Best regards

Pool op

Silvo

Well what of the requirements that used to be in action where newbie accounts were restricted.
I would wholeheartedly endorse doing something because this isn't a community and it's all altcoins are being traded against bitcoin.
I'd love to be able to read altcoin announcements without newbie accounts spamming support. I'd love to be able to put reputation against coin projects.
The problem here is multiple accounts and not so much pool operators.
All of the hubris and buzz surrounding ANNs is bought up like with USBcoin, which leads to sore losers threatening Bittrex with FBI investigations. Can you imagine the outcome of looking into logs of BCT and finding the IPs showing mass collusion by serial scammers with nothing whatsoever on place to stop the schemes?
I'm not asking for censorship. I'm asking for checks and balances stopping multiple accounts. It's like a gypsy marketplace here and all from clogged up posts by alias newbie accounts.
I understand your reasoning with pools mprep, but
newbie accounts are the issue

Presumably then any other coin based services need to follow the same rules.

This means:

Exchanges
Gambling Sites
Other Services

All of which profit from the "free service" provided. Many of which also "spam" threads.

PM Coin OP for post in OP thread. Create on post in appropriate sub-forum (marketplace for exchanges maybe?)

Also, posts by "shills" advertising a pool (ie "really  hope pool was here") should be classed as spam, and attempts to circumvent the rules also.

Multiple accounts are allowed since a "one account" policy is nearly impossible to effectively enforce with TOR, proxies and VPNs circling about, (possible) scams are not moderated forum wide - freedom comes at a price. Newbie jail was abolished. This was changed by bringing in more moderators who moderate Newbie posts site wide (that would be me and hilariousandco) and several older mods were given the ability to moderate Newbie posts as well.

good. fuck pools.

as a trader only i dont give a shit.

ban scamming assholes next is my advice.

+1
This is better than hurt eyes with big size font etc.

pool owners have their pool in their sig. If they just do a normal post like 'setting up a pool, will see what this coin turns out to' in the topic, It's probably not considered as spam. Problem solved.

I neither agree or disagree re pools bc I don't mine any more...
But OP has a point. BCT allows has ignored all calls for moderation of altcoin sub-forums and this is the first thing to bring into action? I'd say the pressing issue is multiple accounts and serial scammers more so than the pools clogging up threads with "spam".
Whatever happened to the rule where you couldn't post with a new account until a certain threshold of time and/or newbie introduction?