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I Believe so but KnCminer is late and everyone is growing inpatient  

I thought waldo already paid for this device ?

Dude waldo is not going to give u your money back bcus that would mean he would have do refund everyone else and he probably used your BTC to buy another rig so best thing you can do is just live with it for now and see what happens with KnCminer sry bro

And??

agree :!)

I completely agree with you yomamanodros… Waldo is giving us once again his childish answers ignoring all the things we are demanding…

This is not an explanation at all.  You are deliberately avoiding a real response our legitimate concerns.

If you had stated explicitly that refunds would be issued if Hash Fast didn't deliver by Dec. 31, this wouldn't be an issue.  The fact is that you didn't state this, you stated that the miner would be delivered by late Nov and in the case of non delivery, refunds would be issued with the option of waiting for the miner.  


It is not as simple as that! We are making an agreement with you, not the company supplying the miner! You purchased the miner with your own money and then offered shares to us. You called it a group buy, but you bought it, not us. You sold us shares of your miner.

The point that that he is making is that you supplied an actual date for the KnCminer GB refunds. In this GB you only stated the expected delivery date. By not stating an actual date for refunds you lead people to believe that the expected delivery date is also the refund date. This is definitely the impression I got, and I'm sure that many others also believed this when they placed their order.

I now realize that trusting you with my money wasn't the smartest thing I have ever done, but you need to respond to our concerns in a more concrete way than the way you have so far!

Waldo, now I'm very serious about that.

Show me your arguments on the paper and looking at your own terms why you don't have to refund us… Don't say "Hashfast will refund us on 2014" because that's not specified in your terms. Read them and explain me why I'm wrong.

I didn't find any, and yes, your fault was not include the date of the refund, as you made in your new share sell (why did you change the terms?). But that's not our problem and we bought a share of a machine that would be shipped on november and if not we'll get a refund. Be honest and refund us, you know we are right.

I know where our Bitcoins are…

Why did you change now the refund terms in this new share buy, if those you put before where so clear (for you)?

haa, what would this world be if you would stop your whinings... so #BiT_pOL you just want me to  bend over and take it   We have to keep our account admins accountable and honest . Group Buy Account Admins are making a living of bro's buying shares. Account admins should welcome any complaint and have good customer service for there share holders. BTC tomorrow can be worth $2000+, Account admins are not holding $100 dollars any more.
 
Hi waldo, can you please reply to some of the comment we share holders have ?
Thanks Bro   

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alright alright... where's waldo :?)

Is that written somewhere? Why should I know that? When I bought the share no one told me that… If that where specified I wouldn't buy the share…

Nice!

Contracts + implying doesn't = good.

Non delivery can mean that HashFast doesn't delivery in time, and the hashfast date was end of December (from when they first opened orders)

This line implies that if the delivery is late, refunds will be offered or you can choose to wait

In case of non-delivery:

• I (waldohoover) take no responsibility for the possibility that HashFast does not deliver. I (waldohoover) have done what I consider a thorough due diligence but as we all know, you can never 100% guarantee anything when it comes to pre-orders.
• Refunds will be given in case of non-delivery less 3% for management of the Group Buy.
• This group buy will be refunded if the miners are not delivered- share holders can elect to wait further.

Misc.:


It look like a Group buy to me  but he does say he is not 'responsible'.

This discussion is pretty pointless:

+1000 

*All Miners PAID -> Not a group buy -> A share buy (with the terms you set out)

not happy.