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Quote from: 3rac3 on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM

I just do not get which part of the name "group buy" you guys do not get. Yes it does suck that HF did not deliver yet.

Just please stop whining!

If he had not explicitly said that he would offer refunds or you can choose to wait it out in the event that they don't deliver on time, I wouldn't be saying anything. We are going by the terms that Waldohoover set out for this group buy.

On the first page of this thread he even welcomes someone that had received a refund from a different group buy but seems to be refusing to allow us that same opportunity.

The miner was prebought, it isn't like he needed our btc before he purchased it like some group buys. He was takinga risk when he purchased it, this is part of the reason that he charges a management fee and a 3% refund fee, he is trying to reduce his risk. Unfortunately the miner was not delivered on time, so he should bea man of his word and refund us as he said he would.

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Quote from: 3rac3 on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM

I just do not get which part of the name "group buy" you guys do not get. Yes it does suck that HF did not deliver yet.

Just please stop whining!

Quote from: malvino on December 03, 2013, 04:16:31 AM

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That's really great and all but I do not understand how many times I have to say this.

HashFast dates moved to Dec 31- If they do not ship they will refund, then I will refund all share holders once I get that.

One thing is the terms between Hashfast and you, and other the terms between me and you (coiningsolutions). I made a contract with you, not with Hashfast.

You specified that the miner was paid (with your money) and you sell shares of this machine that would be shipped in November. If it's not delivered you'll refund the money (-3%). Is what you said in this post and it's the reason I gave you 1 BTC. So we can resume that in some points:

- Miners were paid:
If that is true you'll still have the BTC the people gave to you. Maybe you lied? If not why don't you make a refund? What are you doing with our Bitcoins?
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Refunds will be given in case of non-delivery less 3% for management of the Group Buy.

If the machine wasn't shipped in November as you announced that's non-delivery. If for you "non-delivery" is 2014, 2015 or 2020 you must specified that. On the paper, no miner shipped on november -> non-delivery -> refund.

I don't know the terms of other group buys you made, but for this one things are very clear… Aren't?

Quote from: malvino on December 03, 2013, 04:16:31 AM

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That's really great and all but I do not understand how many times I have to say this.

HashFast dates moved to Dec 31- If they do not ship they will refund, then I will refund all share holders once I get that.

One thing is the terms between Hashfast and you, and other the terms between me and you (coiningsolutions). I made a contract with you, not with Hashfast.

You specified that the miner was paid (with your money) and you sell shares of this machine that would be shipped in November. If it's not delivered you'll refund the money (-3%). Is what you said in this post and it's the reason I gave you 1 BTC. So we can resume that in some points:

- Miners were paid:
If that is true you'll still have the BTC the people gave to you. Maybe you lied? If not why don't you make a refund? What are you doing with our Bitcoins?
-

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Refunds will be given in case of non-delivery less 3% for management of the Group Buy.

If the machine wasn't shipped in November as you announced that's non-delivery. If for you "non-delivery" is 2014, 2015 or 2020 you must specified that. On the paper, no miner shipped on november -> non-delivery -> refund.

I don't know the terms of other group buys you made, but for this one things are very clear… Aren't?

Hold on hold on... are we in a GB or are we just buying GH/s from Waldo? Waldo

it doesn’t make sense you buying the miners and then saying it’s a GBuy Sad

does this mean we don’t have a say in case the miner is no longer profitable or if they don’t deliver on time? I’m a little confuse now Huh

Sorry to say but we are all in these GBs together and something is not adding up with your GBs Huh

Please don’t be offended, i just dont like to beat around the bush. What realy going on with our BTC are you getting RICH of our BTC Huh

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Quote from: unois on December 03, 2013, 12:44:38 PM

Quote from: 3rac3 on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM

I just do not get which part of the name "group buy" you guys do not get. Yes it does suck that HF did not deliver yet.

Just please stop whining!

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Quote from: 3rac3 on December 03, 2013, 12:41:45 PM

I just do not get which part of the name "group buy" you guys do not get. Yes it does suck that HF did not deliver yet.

Just please stop whining!

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I just do not get which part of the name "group buy" you guys do not get. Yes it does suck that HF did not deliver yet.

Just please stop whining!

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I'm with malvino on this. You bought the miners and then made promises to us. You said you would refund us if they didn't deliver by the time you promised, they didn't deliver by the late November as you stated so you should honor your word and refund us our btc. You will still get the hashing power from the refunded shares plus the 3%. Our agreement was with you, not hashfast. I realize that it sucks for you but unless you bought the btc used to buy the miner for more than $125 per btc in you are still coming out ahead. Do the right thing and offer refunds.

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That's really great and all but I do not understand how many times I have to say this.

HashFast dates moved to Dec 31- If they do not ship they will refund, then I will refund all share holders once I get that.

One thing is the terms between Hashfast and you, and other the terms between me and you (coiningsolutions). I made a contract with you, not with Hashfast.

You specified that the miner was paid (with your money) and you sell shares of this machine that would be shipped in November. If it's not delivered you'll refund the money (-3%). Is what you said in this post and it's the reason I gave you 1 BTC. So we can resume that in some points:

- Miners were paid:
If that is true you'll still have the BTC the people gave to you. Maybe you lied? If not why don't you make a refund? What are you doing with our Bitcoins?
-

Quote

Refunds will be given in case of non-delivery less 3% for management of the Group Buy.

If the machine wasn't shipped in November as you announced that's non-delivery. If for you "non-delivery" is 2014, 2015 or 2020 you must specified that. On the paper, no miner shipped on november -> non-delivery -> refund.

I don't know the terms of other group buys you made, but for this one things are very clear… Aren't?

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Quote from: stex2009 on December 02, 2013, 06:53:12 PM

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That's really great and all but I do not understand how many times I have to say this.

HashFast dates moved to Dec 31- If they do not ship they will refund, then I will refund all share holders once I get that.

wish they just refund it back. I think I was in this group buy too. 3.85 BTC total. I just wish I get BTC back. waldo, do something!

I've tried numerous times with a no go. Spoke to a couple of different people and same answer.

I just came to this page after a long time. I even forgot about it, my 1 share here. The idea of getting 3.85 BTC back is very tempting!

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That's really great and all but I do not understand how many times I have to say this.

HashFast dates moved to Dec 31- If they do not ship they will refund, then I will refund all share holders once I get that.

wish they just refund it back. I think I was in this group buy too. 3.85 BTC total. I just wish I get BTC back. waldo, do something!

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Quote from: malvino on December 01, 2013, 05:51:10 AM

One month ago I've purchased 20GH/s for 1BTC. I thought the miner was ready to mine, and when I confirmed it wasn't I asked you privately for a refund. You said no, and looking at your terms you were right because it was my fault that I didn't understand properly what you offered (maybe because english is not my main language).

I post here what you announced the day I bought the shares:

And here your terms:

You posted "Ships in November" and we are already in December, so the machine wasn't delivered in the date you announced. And putting "All miners paid" explains that you already bought the machine with your money (it's yours) and what you're offering is a share. You don't needed the money to buy it. And looking at your terms you must give me a refund (minus 3%) because you didn't accomplished what you announced.

So please take your 3% and give my money back: 1HvPyoG8uPr5G4B4oMuNDKAMXy4vJJKvtS

Thanks!

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Thanks for the pic Malvino,

I've been asking for the return of our BTC, at first they said "in late October" but then finally wrote "Ships in Nov".

Well, I want my BTC back please.

Regards.

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One month ago I've purchased 20GH/s for 1BTC. I thought the miner was ready to mine, and when I confirmed it wasn't I asked you privately for a refund. You said no, and looking at your terms you were right because it was my fault that I didn't understand properly what you offered (maybe because english is not my main language).

I post here what you announced the day I bought the shares:

And here your terms:

You posted "Ships in November" and we are already in December, so the machine wasn't delivered in the date you announced. And putting "All miners paid" explains that you already bought the machine with your money (it's yours) and what you're offering is a share. You don't needed the money to buy it. And looking at your terms you must give me a refund (minus 3%) because you didn't accomplished what you announced.

So please take your 3% and give my money back: 1HvPyoG8uPr5G4B4oMuNDKAMXy4vJJKvtS

Thanks!

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Quote from: silajim on November 24, 2013, 06:53:46 PM

We have any news from the miners? It's late november already.

We will receive the miners a few days before December 31 and we will not recover even 10% of the investment and not return us the BTC, because only return the BTC from 1 January

wonderful.

They said we would be mining the last week of October

wonderful wonderful.

Men of their word, great professionals. HashFast for ever!

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Quote from: LittleD on November 18, 2013, 12:47:16 PM

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Shares reduced to ฿.7 Cool

Are you going to reduce the BTC price and maybe UP the GH/s (currant BTC Price @ $650).?

Miner was paid in BTC, so continuing to lower the BTC price due to the USD rate doesn't make any sense.

No matter what the price is you're buying 1/60th of a Sierra. Cool

I think u need to bring the price down if you wan't to sell the shares Huh