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Quote from: erikoy on September 16, 2020, 03:39:17 AM

Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

Or better that whenever you wanna play,make sure that Wifey is around to check you if already Lose the limit funds so you need to stop playing.
it sounds awkward but we need guidance in gambling because this is addicting and really hard to control by one self .
Let people around us be the instrument for us not getting deeper in this supposedly for entertaining purpose.

Good suggestion, you should find someone that can help you not to be addicted to much in gambling addiction. It's not awkward because your relationship and family are on the line once you get addicted on gambling. A character of an individual can also change and can affect his approach to his family so it's better to have someone beside you where you're doing stuff like gambling. If you have a tolerance on getting addicted then it's fine since you can control yourself especially the emotion.

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Quote from: erikoy on September 16, 2020, 03:39:17 AM

Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

If you have such a dominant life partner but still have the urge of going into gambling then it could worsen your addiction because you might hide your gambling habits from her which could boom at some point if your life.But if you are not addicted to gambling yet then you may never think about it because she will be in your mind when you think about gambling. Cheesy

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 17, 2020, 09:45:18 AM

Quote from: erikoy on September 16, 2020, 03:39:17 AM

Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

Or better that whenever you wanna play,make sure that Wifey is around to check you if already Lose the limit funds so you need to stop playing.
it sounds awkward but we need guidance in gambling because this is addicting and really hard to control by one self .
Let people around us be the instrument for us not getting deeper in this supposedly for entertaining purpose.

Indeed. Guidance from your family members or a friend is sometimes a good help, so you could limit yourself from playing too much in gambling or for someone to say that you should stop. It is why I always asked or invite my friend to go with me to the casino because he is the one who says if we already reach our limit, so it is a sign that we should go home and not try to bet again.

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Quote from: erikoy on September 16, 2020, 03:39:17 AM

Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

Or better that whenever you wanna play,make sure that Wifey is around to check you if already Lose the limit funds so you need to stop playing.
it sounds awkward but we need guidance in gambling because this is addicting and really hard to control by one self .
Let people around us be the instrument for us not getting deeper in this supposedly for entertaining purpose.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 16, 2020, 06:01:43 AM

Yes they can, but they chose not to. Every gamblers are always having thought on stopping after a loss but after a while, they will still decide to give it a try having in their mind that they could win, sadly they mostly don't. It is hard to resist your urge to gamble especially if you have a lot of money on your pocket or the other way around because you badly want to make it multiply.

This is more likely a disease for me. It's a habit from yourself in which you can't control even if you have, you'll still make stupid decisions that will make you suffer even more aside from your loss.

That is greediness Grin

The greediness will come to us, especially if we have a lot of money, as you said. We will feel hard to stop gambling because the sound to continue playing gambling will beat in our ear. But that will not happen if we have the power to say no, it is enough to win this money, so I need to get out of this place before it's too late. Yes, it is a habit from us, but we can learn how to minimize the habit to have more control over ourselves.

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Quote from: michellee on September 15, 2020, 02:19:38 AM

Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

Self-control or to hold back yourself can be done by every gambler. But the will itself for each individual is hard to defeat especially if you're too eager to recover with the losses you've made within the day, a week, or even a month.

That is one reason where it is starting and having yourself a limit can reduce that implication if you're too curious and worried about yourself. And as you pursue, you will improve from it.

Yes they can, but they chose not to. Every gamblers are always having thought on stopping after a loss but after a while, they will still decide to give it a try having in their mind that they could win, sadly they mostly don't. It is hard to resist your urge to gamble especially if you have a lot of money on your pocket or the other way around because you badly want to make it multiply.

This is more likely a disease for me. It's a habit from yourself in which you can't control even if you have, you'll still make stupid decisions that will make you suffer even more aside from your loss.

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Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

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That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.

I learned self-control by having as much as many hobbies as my time permits me to do so and do an extreme time-management thing for myself. That, perhaps, is my limiting factor in gambling and it has been working pretty well I must say. I am living alone and I haven't been into a serious gambling spree thankfully and it seems that I wouldn't develop such an inclination towards an activity since I am always engaged in a lot of things.

Well I always lose $100 a month in dice. I am okay to forego the amount though if you think about it, that's $1200 in a year that could have been put into good use but whatever..

Exactly. Actually, it's a big question, what is a "good use" for our money, but let's put that philosophical question aside.

If you can afford losing $100 a month in dice, it means you are making good money overall. And to be able to carry on on this path you need to relax from time to time. We are not robots, after all!

Btw, limiting your gambling activity by having lots of other interesting hobbies is a great idea. Too bad I odn't have sMerits at the moment.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on September 12, 2020, 03:01:32 AM

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Government? maybe they can help but banning gambling is not good, maybe making rehab facilities for addicted gamblers would help.

I don't even know how will they do it.

If they will be doing some regulations or create a law that limits gamblers or even maybe like what they did on UK about proving yourself in front of an ombudsman, people might think that the government is restrictive and it might cause for those gamblers to find a way or a hole for them to gamble without those restrictions or limitations.

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Quote from: jossiel on September 15, 2020, 07:50:42 PM

Quote from: michellee on September 15, 2020, 02:19:38 AM

Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

Self-control or to hold back yourself can be done by every gambler. But the will itself for each individual is hard to defeat especially if you're too eager to recover with the losses you've made within the day, a week, or even a month.

That is one reason where it is starting and having yourself a limit can reduce that implication if you're too curious and worried about yourself. And as you pursue, you will improve from it.

The will to stop gambling would not stay for a long time for that person, especially if he can win some money, and it will erode from time to time with the passion for getting more winning.
If that person can not hold himself by stopping from gambling, that will not take too long to see, and he will lose more money. The limiting that we applied will be broken if we lose control.

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Quote from: Janation on September 16, 2020, 01:59:39 AM

Quote from: Bezobraznike on September 12, 2020, 03:01:32 AM

I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!

You know that is not easy, right?

Gamblers that are addicted to gambling can't even realize that they are already addicted to gambling. They can't learn it without someone or anyone making them, that is why people should really be open with their family, the more reason that the government needed to step up to help these people. They will not help themselves unless they realized they are helpless.

That's the worst thing that could happen to us, getting addicted without knowing is like having a disease that would kill us in due time without us knowing. Damn, I don't want to be in that situation and I'm glad when I had some addiction it didn't get worst.

Government? maybe they can help but banning gambling is not good, maybe making rehab facilities for addicted gamblers would help.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on September 12, 2020, 03:01:32 AM

I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!

You know that is not easy, right?

Gamblers that are addicted to gambling can't even realize that they are already addicted to gambling. They can't learn it without someone or anyone making them, that is why people should really be open with their family, the more reason that the government needed to step up to help these people. They will not help themselves unless they realized they are helpless.

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Quote from: michellee on September 15, 2020, 02:19:38 AM

Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

Self-control or to hold back yourself can be done by every gambler. But the will itself for each individual is hard to defeat especially if you're too eager to recover with the losses you've made within the day, a week, or even a month.

That is one reason where it is starting and having yourself a limit can reduce that implication if you're too curious and worried about yourself. And as you pursue, you will improve from it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 15, 2020, 02:17:24 PM

Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 15, 2020, 09:33:39 AM

That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.

I learned self-control by having as much as many hobbies as my time permits me to do so and do an extreme time-management thing for myself. That, perhaps, is my limiting factor in gambling and it has been working pretty well I must say. I am living alone and I haven't been into a serious gambling spree thankfully and it seems that I wouldn't develop such an inclination towards an activity since I am always engaged in a lot of things.

Well I always lose $100 a month in dice. I am okay to forego the amount though if you think about it, that's $1200 in a year that could have been put into good use but whatever..

Im not really fan on totaling my loss in annual basis as long i havent able to spend such amount nor presume that it would really be a fixed amount because it would really be having some changes along the way.

It isnt really needed to have that external limiting feature because you can make yourself to be in controlled if you are really aware on what you are doing even if you do have lots of things to be done or not
as long you are aware that you are spending that much into things which arent really worth to spend on then thats the time you do make such immediate action.

If failed to do so then think back on whats the matter or mistake then try to realize and presume things on what would happen if you do let yourself do continue
to have this bad habit.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 15, 2020, 09:33:39 AM

That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.

I learned self-control by having as much as many hobbies as my time permits me to do so and do an extreme time-management thing for myself. That, perhaps, is my limiting factor in gambling and it has been working pretty well I must say. I am living alone and I haven't been into a serious gambling spree thankfully and it seems that I wouldn't develop such an inclination towards an activity since I am always engaged in a lot of things.

Well I always lose $100 a month in dice. I am okay to forego the amount though if you think about it, that's $1200 in a year that could have been put into good use but whatever..

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Quote from: michellee on September 08, 2020, 09:32:00 PM

Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.

They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though, remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

Anyone that has dealt with an addicted person knows this is the truth, you cannot help them unless they want to help themselves, it could be extremely obvious for you they are destroying their life and you want to help them before they get to that point but if they do not want to listen then there is nothing you can do, which is why proposals like this are useless, most of those that are addicted will never limit their gambling activities willingly unless they themselves have taken the decision in which case they could just stop gambling instead of using a feature in the casino website to get this effect.

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Quote from: Bezobraznike on September 12, 2020, 03:01:32 AM

I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!

I think not, most of the successful person and even politicians does have someone acting as advisor to support them from their decision. Perhaps, in gambling, your wife could play a very big role to provide caution which help you to avoid losses in times that your emotions tries to make spend more. Also, having a family will help you allot since you have a reason to spend wisely and limit your gambling in order to have funds to put food your table.

That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on September 15, 2020, 07:47:08 AM

as a gambler should control the amount of time you gamble on a casino. Much like kids are being controlled their video gaming times by their parents.

for the kids its easy to stop because they wont get punished by thier parents if they wont obey but to the adults ? we arent kids anymore thats why we called as adults lol .

i know there are still that are going to be concern to us if we have our family , friend , wife , etc but they cant say that they will also punish us because we can always fight back . as an adult we tend to break our own rules and much more others rule .

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Gambling is capable of enabling you to time-travel. Yes, you will forget all your stress of your family problems and your work pressures. So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?

I really agree with this, I also experienced gambling with my friends which made us happier and to bond more while gambling.
But if we will get to use with this and always losing our money on gambling while we entertain, it's not healthy anymore. Since there are some gamblers who treat gambling for entertainment and do not care even they lose their money, we should be aware of this kind of mentality.

I would certainly agree to the notion that you, as a gambler should control the amount of time you gamble on a casino. Much like kids are being controlled their video gaming times by their parents. It will be helpful with the financial and emotional health of the gambler to have a little control in his life by doing such alarm system. Whether by a phone call by the missus or an alarm system set on his mobile phone, anything that would make him aware that he needs to stop and go home.

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Quote from: adzino on September 11, 2020, 03:16:34 PM

Quote from: michellee on September 08, 2020, 09:32:00 PM

Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.

They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though, remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

But still, it isn't easy to make him realize he needs help without he realizes by himself. Maybe we can sit still beside him to watch him playing gambling, but we don't do anything until we can see the situations turn him to start to get many losses. If that happens, maybe we can begin to suggest he stop and don't continue playing gambling.
I think the same as you about the external limiting features because if that person can not control himself, I don't think that features will work for him. Otherwise, he will do it by himself.

Quote from: Insanerman on September 13, 2020, 12:17:47 PM

Indeed. A gambler must set limits where, when, what time she/he has to take a break. A gambler must be dicipline enough to manage his happiness, frustrations, and other feelings that he is experiencing whenever he is playing on casinos. It's really fun to play there, extremely happy if most of the bets is winning. Signs of progression on your investment in casino gambling.

Friends, family, partner, anyone, or anything can be the external limiting feature on things that you are doing. But as long as you are happy that you are doing that thing, and it doesn't affect you negatively, it's fine.

Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

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