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Indeed. A gambler must set limits where, when, what time she/he has to take a break. A gambler must be dicipline enough to manage his happiness, frustrations, and other feelings that he is experiencing whenever he is playing on casinos. It's really fun to play there, extremely happy if most of the bets is winning. Signs of progression on your investment in casino gambling.

Friends, family, partner, anyone, or anything can be the external limiting feature on things that you are doing. But as long as you are happy that you are doing that thing, and it doesn't affect you negatively, it's fine.
legendary
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink
This is how they lure gamblers in their casino Cheesy.

Unfortunately its like scammers scamming newbie investors. They are attracting the investors so they will invest in what the scammer is offering. With gambling, gambling owner is attracting the gamblers thru giveaways and gamblers are falling into it. The only difference between this is that what gambling owner is doing is legal while the other one isn't Cheesy.

Overall, I agree with what you said that self discipline is the key whenever you are gambling. Just gamble for fun only and not for money because if you gamble for money, you will really get addicted into it that easily.

That's a scam if we don't see the risk or we lose control.

IMO, if you are having fun, time is not important anymore as that will only be a distraction and we can fo understand that casinos will do everythingr the gamblers to continuously gamble as that would give them better chances of becoming more profitable, the longer a gambler will play, slowly their winning chances reduces since the house will always win especially in the long run due to their edge.
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink
This is how they lure gamblers in their casino Cheesy.

Unfortunately its like scammers scamming newbie investors. They are attracting the investors so they will invest in what the scammer is offering. With gambling, gambling owner is attracting the gamblers thru giveaways and gamblers are falling into it. The only difference between this is that what gambling owner is doing is legal while the other one isn't Cheesy.

Overall, I agree with what you said that self discipline is the key whenever you are gambling. Just gamble for fun only and not for money because if you gamble for money, you will really get addicted into it that easily.
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink

It is their business and gamblers need to know it. For watch people now have mobile or watch on their hand so knowing time should not be an issue. Yes, they do not put purposely and those who do not have much control on themself will in the end might lose the money and this is how the casino would keep making money, more people lose money more they make profits.
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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.
well it is very unlikely if the money from gambling is used for any charity because I see it is bad behavior, so as much as possible not to do that, if you want to do charity then at least don't use the money from gambling. I think gambling developers are reluctant to do such a charity.

Well, I don't think we should even talk about this since not all of these casinos are like that. In our country we have PCSO which is mandated to provide funds to be used in health programs, medical assistance and such for the people. 55% or 60%(Im not sure) of the allocated money will be the price and 30% will go to charity and the rest to the expenditures of PCSO. It is just different because it is a government-owned and controlled corporation than those other casinos we know but still, you get the point.
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink
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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.
That's not true here in our country profit from casinos are allocated to sustain the needs of the people who are in need, in fact even in the times of pandemic our casinos here continue to help those who are in need, that's because our casinos here are run by our government and they use the profit to augment the needs of the poor people. Casinos here are a big help to our people, that is why our government opened it in times of pandemic when the go signal to open the economy.

theres a thread on this board that talk about re opening and adding more casino's in times of pandemic and after the pandemic is over .

 the state of the gambling on your country purely applies to them but at first i wouldnt agree on that thread because i dont believe that gambling can help the people in need  . they only want to make sure that the people they help wont use the funds for gambling back to them because the money will just cycle  .
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~ So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?
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I would agree only if all gambling sites were synchronized, and the limiting feature were working on all of them simultaneously. I'm almost sure that this will be the case in the future, but for now by limiting the activity of a gambler on your site, you are just redirecting him/her to another one.
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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.



That's not true here in our country profit from casinos are allocated to sustain the needs of the people who are in need, in fact even in the times of pandemic our casinos here continue to help those who are in need, that's because our casinos here are run by our government and they use the profit to augment the needs of the poor people. Casinos here are a big help to our people, that is why our government opened it in times of pandemic when the go signal to open the economy.
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  I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!
That's true, there's no way we can trust the external limits features if implemented on gambling casinos, even at that; with the use of VPN these features could be override easily. Basically the self-defense which gamblers can use is self-control which is a major tool for this rather than external limit feature. If at the moment restrictions doesn't work well with online gambling casinos how much more can external limit feature work If VPN is available?. Every gambler should be left to his or her own fate.
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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.

Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.


well it is very unlikely if the money from gambling is used for any charity because I see it is bad behavior, so as much as possible not to do that, if you want to do charity then at least don't use the money from gambling. I think gambling developers are reluctant to do such a charity.
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   I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!
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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.

Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.

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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.
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Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

It is true that if someone does not intend to change related to addicted gambling, it will be difficult for us to help that person.
How hard our efforts will be in vain, if there is no desire to change from that person. It's a good thing we decide to help someone
who is addicted to gambling, but of course we can not help everyone, because we are only human beings who are full of limitations.
The person must first realize that addicted gambling is detrimental to him, so it will be easier to help that person. And I agree that
regarding the external features used by gambling sites, it will not be able to make people stop playing gambling. For addicted gambling,
they will definitely find a way to continue playing gambling.
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Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.
Gamblers will never think about for sure, it much more if you are already addicted to it. And obviously, the gambling site itself never imposed this seriously, they'll be making money from gamblers, and why they should take such responsibility? Not a thing they should do, gambling owners will just to comply with what the regulations stated but actually they are not going to do it.

I can't agree with two people above, but Viscore close enough to my thoughts. Because of above reasons in his posts, we need some government regulations which will implement such "limiting feature", or it will be such "feature" itself. Casinos and sites don't care about gamblers, they just want to increase their profits, but in the same time, in the chain of "gambler-casino" it is they, which can be forced to stop gamblers from loosing everything they have. And limiting feature can be implemented very easy. Because most of people lazy, this will work fine enough with majority i think. (many people can't even use VPN, heh)
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Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.
Nowadays gambling sites are not giving any warning for the maximum amount bet and lot of people claim they accidentally clicked the max amount while entering the bet amount so it is a stupidity to expect something from those sites and as you said its profit driven company so they want the gambler to keep playing.
I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
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Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.
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How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?
I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit.

It is a great alternative solution.

But whether these online casinos have it or not, I don't think it will work since as you've said only some people are using it, that feature is rarely used by these gamblers. We can say the casinos are doing their part, we also know that these casinos wanted to earn money since at the end of the day, it is still a business, and we are gamblers.
If at some point this gets implemented it is going to be just to silence those that want that feature in the casinos, because it is obvious it is going to be completely ineffective, after all those that can gamble responsibly do not need something like that at all, and those that have problems with their gambling are not going to use it because they are in denial about their condition, this will only help the few addicted gamblers which are in the phase of recognizing their addiction and which are trying to do something about it.
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Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it,  it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop  when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.
Nowadays gambling sites are not giving any warning for the maximum amount bet and lot of people claim they accidentally clicked the max amount while entering the bet amount so it is a stupidity to expect something from those sites and as you said its profit driven company so they want the gambler to keep playing.
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