Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
I agree that limiting feature will just become a display if the gambler will ignore it and just go and gambler more, I'm ok if a gambling site has it, it's a good reminder for those who wants to stop when they reach a certain condition or threshold but if you asked gambling operators they want none of it, because gambling sites is a profit and entertainment driven company, they want you to play and enjoy more of their features.
Topic: All your entertainment things must have an external limiting feature, agree? - page 5. (Read 1649 times)
September 09, 2020, 09:36:26 AM
September 09, 2020, 07:40:49 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
No, they will definitely stop gambling at that casinos.
That is the thing about gamblers, if they feel that they are being limited and being restricted to do things they wanted, they will go to other place where they could continue what they are doing in the past. I think casino owners are also aware of this that is why for a long time, they would not be accepting this idea. Gamblers themselves should step up, not the casinos not the government.
That's right, limitation is a bad thing in gambling, casinos would not want that either as that will also limit their profit.
If our country, there's a saying when gambling that goes "sky is the limit", so we can gamble whole night until the morning because gambling is fun.
Gamblers already have that kind of attitude, it's already in their system, they don't feel tired or bored even gambling for long hours.
September 09, 2020, 06:28:45 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
No, they will definitely stop gambling at that casinos.
That is the thing about gamblers, if they feel that they are being limited and being restricted to do things they wanted, they will go to other place where they could continue what they are doing in the past. I think casino owners are also aware of this that is why for a long time, they would not be accepting this idea. Gamblers themselves should step up, not the casinos not the government.
September 09, 2020, 01:58:59 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
they will not use it since they don't want to have limit when they are playing. The only persons that can help you to stop is your self by giving your own limit . If I remember some gamblers take a loan just to continue playing that ventually will sink them into debt. Government can also help of they can make a regulation that can help gamblers but gambling sites I don't think they will do it.
I totally agree that the only thing that can limit when playing gambling is ourselves. It is impossible for gambling sites to limit
users from playing gambling on their site, it is ridiculous if there are gambling sites that do that matter. Because for gambling
sites the longer we play gambling the more profitable they are, therefore gambling sites will be makes us users play gambling
until the capital we have runs out. That is how gambling sites get rich.
September 09, 2020, 01:31:04 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
they will not use it since they don't want to have limit when they are playing. The only persons that can help you to stop is your self by giving your own limit . If I remember some gamblers take a loan just to continue playing that ventually will sink them into debt. Government can also help of they can make a regulation that can help gamblers but gambling sites I don't think they will do it.
September 09, 2020, 01:14:25 AM
Same stuff, you just repeated it.
It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.
If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.
It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.
If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.
We are not talking about the same thing. I am saying 99% of us do NOT have the discipline all of the time, and only 1% is the perfect person who stops when he should all of the time.
I would not dare to say I am not addicted or that it is lucky for me,,, I have tried to quit completely but it gets kind of worse if I somehow do not bet and then I come back after a while (real life betting, just buying lucky numbers). And here online I have accounts on several sites if you know me, you can see my same username and see my levels. What is your username on which sites?
Addiction does not automatically mean one stereotype as you describe though.
September 08, 2020, 10:23:41 PM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
Very relative question. If you place this kind of rules how sure you are that the gamblers will stay?
There are always ways for such gamblers where they can find other places to continue without any restrictions.
It's a good idea for people who like being corrected, but to those who are not then then they are going to find alternative ways to continue.
September 08, 2020, 09:32:00 PM
Unfortunately, not all gamblers know their limit when they play gambling because we know that many gamblers lose their money for playing gambling in the long term. They lose their discipline while they played gambling, and that makes them lose their control too. The gambling website can add these features or remind every gambler on their site, but in the end, all of the things will be back to the gamblers, whether they can control themselves or lose their money.
Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;) Even myself, with all my discipline for 99% of the time, I have 1% of events where I lose my head and chase losses down until I go bust. It is a terrible feeling to be in, but one not many people know how to manage. So that management starts right at deposit: only put in what you know you should by all logical explanations lose.
External limiting features help, and should be there, but they are almost completely useless if a gambler is adamant to deposit, since he goes elsewhere.
External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
September 08, 2020, 10:56:41 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting.
It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
Limits should come from us, the gamblers ourselves coz that is a matter of discipline. Even if the government tells you to have $500 limit in a day/week, would that be enough for anyone to stop betting? besides I think that would be a racist and inequality for the government to do, imagine setting a limit on this guy coz his deposit total history is below a rich person requirement. Casinos on the other hand should always be wary of the people inside their regulations. September 08, 2020, 10:08:15 AM
Same stuff, you just repeated it.
It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.
If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.
September 08, 2020, 08:40:19 AM
Unfortunately, not all gamblers know their limit when they play gambling because we know that many gamblers lose their money for playing gambling in the long term. They lose their discipline while they played gambling, and that makes them lose their control too. The gambling website can add these features or remind every gambler on their site, but in the end, all of the things will be back to the gamblers, whether they can control themselves or lose their money.
Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;) Even myself, with all my discipline for 99% of the time, I have 1% of events where I lose my head and chase losses down until I go bust. It is a terrible feeling to be in, but one not many people know how to manage. So that management starts right at deposit: only put in what you know you should by all logical explanations lose.
External limiting features help, and should be there, but they are almost completely useless if a gambler is adamant to deposit, since he goes elsewhere.
September 08, 2020, 05:48:38 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?
September 08, 2020, 03:16:42 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
I think the same, only you can stop and limit yourself in long run, everything else can be bypassed. There're good ways to limit yourself, to lock some funds where you don't have instant access, with strong character you don't need that, you just need a different wallet, and you will keep your fund safe.
Here we can't talk in general, some people can afford to lose more, some can lose less, some are alone and even if they get busted they will find a way to survive and make money, some have families, and they can't afford to lose a lot and leave family without food. And in all cases you can think of, there are exceptions... people who will do it anyway, without thinking about consequences. And you know what, that's life, some people learn in the easy way, some people learn in hard way, but imposing rules on all the people just because there are few idiots who do it their own way is not good, and this system is all about that, making more rules, more control, with that actions they make even normal people to find another way and to try to bypass those rules.
September 08, 2020, 02:48:58 AM
Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.
September 07, 2020, 11:00:09 PM
How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?
I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit. At some point they might just advertising this for them to look concern and helping but the truth is?
Never that they will make this as priority.
In the end?it is our action being gambler that will save our asses and no one really cares.
September 07, 2020, 10:20:09 PM
How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?
I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit. It is a great alternative solution.
But whether these online casinos have it or not, I don't think it will work since as you've said only some people are using it, that feature is rarely used by these gamblers. We can say the casinos are doing their part, we also know that these casinos wanted to earn money since at the end of the day, it is still a business, and we are gamblers.
September 07, 2020, 06:11:33 PM
It's true that everything has limits, so we will not become addicted. Especially for entertainment which is a lot
happened over excited. Like watching movies sometimes we spend all day, or playing games can happen the same thing.
So addiction doesn't just happen to gambling. Therefore, we must have external limiting features in order to control it.
When we enjoy entertainment. I usually use an alarm on my watch, to remind me of the time limit for enjoying entertainment,
it has proven effective for me.
happened over excited. Like watching movies sometimes we spend all day, or playing games can happen the same thing.
So addiction doesn't just happen to gambling. Therefore, we must have external limiting features in order to control it.
When we enjoy entertainment. I usually use an alarm on my watch, to remind me of the time limit for enjoying entertainment,
it has proven effective for me.
It's good that you have that, but there's a lot of instances that you forgot that especially if you are winning and you want to strike while the iron is hot, because it's not everyday that the iron is hot inn gambling, so even if there is a limiting feature in a gambling site, gamblers will just ignore and will just go and keep on playing.
September 07, 2020, 04:27:52 PM
How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?
I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit. No business will really consider such step because we know that their primary aim or goal is to make money out of those gamblers and creating a blockage is just literally showing of that they are
are trying to stop their profit making opportunity.
So you wont see anything this kind of decision unless if theyre being required to do so.
September 07, 2020, 01:09:56 PM
No I do not agree with it, take a look at where we are, this is a market that was conceived with the idea of giving freedom to those that did not had it and believe this is the right way to do things, does this means there are going to be some few addicted gamblers wasting their money? Yes, but the truth is those people most likely had a predisposition to be addicted anyway and they could have gotten addicted to anything if given enough time and they would have wasted their money anyway.
September 07, 2020, 12:40:42 PM
How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?
I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit. Jump to: