ALLMINE INC - FPGA Cryptominer - page 50.

GPUHoarder

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Quote from: cheebeez on May 19, 2018, 11:46:38 PM

Quote from: GPUHoarder on May 19, 2018, 10:38:52 PM

Most of the algorithms out there already exist published "for free" - that isn't the hard part.

I found only Keccak.

Quote from: GPUHoarder on May 19, 2018, 10:38:52 PM

They'd still need expensive software licenses + lots of time and reasonable sets of skills to synthesize + deploy bitstreams for a variety of hardware.

Vivado (webpack/design) tcl console + gcc/cmake, skill not needed just 1-click. Both free.

ps: VCU1525

Webpack edition won’t build you Ultrascale+ bitstreams. Though I guess you could use the trial of the full version.

profdd

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Could also ask the manufacturer and reseller give us the buying information include MOQ, price, timing, shipping according to the different country? eg., To Australia, Japan, USA, China, Korea, .......

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So I can readup when I have a little time.

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euclidnw

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Would love to join a group buy, I'm located in the united states. Been paying close attention to all this fpga talk and my team is on board with it.

cheebeez

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Quote from: GPUHoarder on May 19, 2018, 10:38:52 PM

Most of the algorithms out there already exist published "for free" - that isn't the hard part.

I found only Keccak.

Quote from: GPUHoarder on May 19, 2018, 10:38:52 PM

They'd still need expensive software licenses + lots of time and reasonable sets of skills to synthesize + deploy bitstreams for a variety of hardware.

Vivado (webpack/design) tcl console + gcc/cmake, skill not needed just 1-click. Both free.

ps: VCU1525

zbutterfly

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does the fpga use a specific program for mining?

gotminer

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I'm interested in this ... Certainly would not sell off my gpu's at this point though. My opinion might change, but at this point, I'd be more inclined to sell off gpu's for more asic's.

My interest is in how much money I can make, like all of you ... If you put your own money into anything, your interest is in getting your money back and then some. End of story.

I would like to test it, but I would only do it on a small scale. Might throw 1-2 btc at it.

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Quote from: cheebeez on May 19, 2018, 08:23:43 PM

Quote from: senseless on May 19, 2018, 11:35:36 AM

Quote from: Fanpant on May 19, 2018, 10:35:19 AM

Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

How about the DEVFee?

The devfee depends on the dev, as gpuhoarder eluded to in the previous post... There will likely be many devs coming out with bitstreams and software. Whitefire was just the first to announce. We are considering developing a platform that would allow any dev to develop firmwares for the boards and provide the development environment. The devfee collected on our software would depend on what devfee the dev wanted to set.

I'm also doing this now. And any algo on which they want to earn I'll release on github for free.

Most of the algorithms out there already exist published "for free" - that isn't the hard part. They'd still need expensive software licenses + lots of time and reasonable sets of skills to synthesize + deploy bitstreams for a variety of hardware. Not to mention we tend to be doing a lot of floor planning, rapid re-configuration, and other things beyond some verilog/VHDL.

Typically speaking, especially for things like this where there is a very real high cost (in software and hardware + time) to produce the bitstreams, you will get what you pay for.

Bittrboy

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Hey, very interested. I'd like to start out small with a 2 board purchase. When is the payment deadline, and is delivery looking liike ~60 days?

cheebeez

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Quote from: senseless on May 19, 2018, 11:35:36 AM

Quote from: Fanpant on May 19, 2018, 10:35:19 AM

Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

How about the DEVFee?

The devfee depends on the dev, as gpuhoarder eluded to in the previous post... There will likely be many devs coming out with bitstreams and software. Whitefire was just the first to announce. We are considering developing a platform that would allow any dev to develop firmwares for the boards and provide the development environment. The devfee collected on our software would depend on what devfee the dev wanted to set.

I'm also doing this now. And any algo on which they want to earn I'll release on github for free.

killallcans

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I would like to buy one, but I wont have the money for a few months since I am also paying for school at the moment. How long will they be available to purchase/when is the deadline?. I am also a little bit worried, since I cant program hardware, If I buy one of these and no software becomes available I would have bought a really cool, expensive, paperweight. If this happens is there any sort of aftermarket where I would be able to make back some/most of the money?

Thank you for your time,
Very Respectfully,
kill all cans,

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Quote from: Etherion on May 19, 2018, 12:04:19 PM

Ccminer is GNU, so any fork source must be published. How will the fpga programmer prevent his work from being copied? I understand that the Bitstream is a not GNU but surly the fpga can't replace the management app which will combine and coordinate the mining process.

I can see it being like a driver but what stops someone else from just using the driver and using your Bitstream

I think anything we'd release would involve custom software, not a github mod. I'm not sure what whitefire is planning. There are a number of mechanisms that can be used to protect the bitstream even if the software is open source.

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Quote from: Etherion on May 19, 2018, 12:04:19 PM

Ccminer is GNU, so any fork source must be published. How will the fpga programmer prevent his work from being copied? I understand that the Bitstream is a not GNU but surly the fpga can't replace the management app which will combine and coordinate the mining process.

I can see it being like a driver but what stops someone else from just using the driver and using your Bitstream

There is nothing magical in ccminer. We have had our own stratum interface and “host” miner for some time.

Senseless has suggested building these boards with a “shell” that would allow encrypted bitstreams (industry standard IP protection. The traditional use of FPGAs is DoD level projects. There are lots of solutions. I would say don’t expect open source FPGA miners.

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Ccminer is GNU, so any fork source must be published. How will the fpga programmer prevent his work from being copied? I understand that the Bitstream is a not GNU but surly the fpga can't replace the management app which will combine and coordinate the mining process.

I can see it being like a driver but what stops someone else from just using the driver and using your Bitstream

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Quote from: Fanpant on May 19, 2018, 10:35:19 AM

Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

How about the DEVFee?

The devfee depends on the dev, as gpuhoarder eluded to in the previous post... There will likely be many devs coming out with bitstreams and software. Whitefire was just the first to announce. We are considering developing a platform that would allow any dev to develop firmwares for the boards and provide the development environment. The devfee collected on our software would depend on what devfee the dev wanted to set.

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Quote from: senseless on May 19, 2018, 10:31:54 AM

Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

Whitefire would release a software update with the new bitstream included.

As well as others of us.

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Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

How about the DEVFee?

senseless

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Quote from: Amph on May 19, 2018, 12:33:01 AM

who will reprogram this if a new algo is born?

Whitefire would release a software update with the new bitstream included.

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Quote from: senseless on May 18, 2018, 01:54:05 PM

Quote from: NeroZyF on May 18, 2018, 10:59:19 AM

I live in Russia and I know that we have problems at the customs for ASIC devices. They are not allowed across the border without certain permits.
Perhaps this will be the same with the FPGA cards
I have a question for you.
you did not think that you can install cards of other people in the same place as your? providing access to the RDP or TeamViewer.
for example at least 8 pieces and Monthly Payment for maintenance costs

Yes, I won't be shipping outside of USA most likely. This is due to export controls on these devices.

I won't be able to provide any sort of hosting option. It's possible for the community to arrange a group buy.

just wanted to ask whether the shipment goes to europe, but as i see, that does not seem to work.

would be nice if someone makes a group buy that ships worldwide.

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