Topic: ALLMINE INC - FPGA Cryptominer - page 52. (Read 51510 times)
I'll purchase but waiting on updates on the mining firmware.
sign me up pls, 2-4 units for starters
Interested as well. Have you visited the factory and see the production lines? Tested any samples?
I'm interested both from an end-user and a developer perspective. Hope to see some more information soon 
I'd buy several.
Yes, I would gladly buy one of these.
What are you currently mining with your VCU1525?
Keccak is the easiest to setup on an arbitrary FPGA, so on our various test platforms it’s Keccak or CN7, or Ethash but that’s a special multi-device configuration.
What are you currently mining with your VCU1525?
@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept, but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.
I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.
If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.
I need to fire up an F1 instance and refamiliarize myself with how AWS does it. It has been sometime since I initially touched those and to be honest I never got deep into it.
You can run the HDK on a much cheaper instance than the F1, do the dev work there and package the bitstream into an AFI (Amazon FPGA Image) that you load onto the F1 instance. This link is useful . https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/f1/
I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit.
@senseless, could you please supply and point me the bulk price of bare FPGA XCVU9P-L2FSGD2104E 100pcs/1000pcs , if I'm interesting to participate of Xilinx chip group buy ?
I'm not allowed to resell chips. They have to be chips on boards. You could supply me your PCB, BOM, but I would have to run assembly.
I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit.
@senseless, could you please supply and point me the bulk price of bare FPGA XCVU9P-L2FSGD2104E 100pcs/1000pcs , if I'm interesting to participate of Xilinx chip group buy ?
@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept, but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.
I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.
If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.
I need to fire up an F1 instance and refamiliarize myself with how AWS does it. It has been sometime since I initially touched those and to be honest I never got deep into it.
@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept, but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.
I am in talks with someone who's in the process of developing a 250-300A vccint version of the VCU1525. It's quite possible that may be the version that ends up getting sold. I would like it to be, but again, it just depends on how things go. I should know more in the next couple of weeks. The price should remain within the same ranges depending on QTY. The 9P is the most mass produced chip, there's no getting around the fact it will be the lowest cost / logic ratio in large quantity.
If you have any questions RE the shell, send me a ping. Would love to hear your feedback and any problems you might have with it.
FYI I had don't some research on these a while back...keep in mind these are DEVELOPMENT boards...they have alot of crap on them that is not needed for a straight mining board. I did preliminary work on stripping all this stuff and beefing up the power/cooling for higher clocks. Don't know why you would build/buy these in their current state for mining.
Fair - something senseless should consider. However pin compatibility from a second source would be great.
@senseless - Yes I’ve got my own RTL and bitstreams - as well as some of my own hardware. I’m pondering your shell/publishing concept, but I haven’t decided if it makes sense yet. I can see the VCU1525 and derivatives being produced in much greater quantity once there is interest though, and that leads to price reductions and makes it difficult for other options to be competitive.
FYI I had done some research on these a while back...keep in mind these are DEVELOPMENT boards...they have alot of crap on them that is not needed for a straight mining board. I did preliminary work on stripping all this stuff and beefing up the power/cooling for higher clocks. Don't know why you would build/buy these in their current state for mining.
Those aren't in mass production yet.
You have said in the other thread that you mine using AWS and own a couple FPGAs yourself.... Could you please display them working before you start asking people about money?
Here's one of my VCU118 mining NIST5 with a PCI-E interface. Couple caveats... 1) This board is only 80A 0.85V vccint, so I need to stay under that to keep from frying it. The NIST5 design is operating at a fraction of it's maximum frequency because I can't operate it faster on this board. 2) Never completed / fully optimized nist5 because literally the day I was planning to start mining it baikal started mining it with their x10. 3) The picture says "AWS FPGA" because I use the same software on both.
Excuse the dust, that case was a GPU miner back in 2011. It's the only case I had that was big enough to fit the VCU118 and still put the side on it.
https://imgur.com/a/tmebe6W
And if you're curious why I named the software SuperMiner 31337, I was getting sick of pool operators getting curious about about my Fpgaminer software version string and superior hashrates. Moral of that story, pool server operators are watching and checking hashrates to try to gain an edge by seeing what's possible.
I'll see if I can make a video at some point showing it working with a monitor.
I’ll back up senseless here - the board he is proposing is useful and valuable for all the FPGA mining being done. There will be many FPGA mining options soon, but if you’re interested in getting into this space it is a good option.
As to the picture,
VCU118 - aka the ol’ Ultrascale+ test/dev bed. http://imgur.com/FKVHPNs
This is not the same space as GPU mining. Expect Bitstreams, miner development, etc. to be more ASIC like.
Edit: I would be interested in 8 of these for some testing.
Those aren't in mass production yet.
You have said in the other thread that you mine using AWS and own a couple FPGAs yourself.... Could you please display them working before you start asking people about money?
Here's one of my VCU118 mining NIST5 with a PCI-E interface. Couple caveats... 1) This board is only 80A 0.85V vccint, so I need to stay under that to keep from frying it. The NIST5 design is operating at a fraction of it's maximum frequency because I can't operate it faster on this board. 2) Never completed / fully optimized nist5 because literally the day I was planning to start mining it baikal started mining it with their x10. 3) The picture says "AWS FPGA" because I use the same software on both.
Excuse the dust, that case was a GPU miner back in 2011. It's the only case I had that was big enough to fit the VCU118 and still put the side on it.
https://imgur.com/a/tmebe6W
And if you're curious why I named the software SuperMiner 31337, I was getting sick of pool operators getting curious about about my Fpgaminer software version string and superior hashrates. Moral of that story, pool server operators are watching and checking hashrates to try to gain an edge by seeing what's possible.
I'll see if I can make a video at some point showing it working with a monitor.
The VCU1525 schematics and bom are available for anyone to produce. I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit.
You would be able to use the device with the firmwares produced by whitefire990
Any interest?
Payment methods would be Crypto (obviously) and Credit Card / Paypal (identity verification would be required and shipping to your registered / verified address)
UPDATES:
The community seems to be uneasy that there is only one developer announcing they will be providing firmware for the VCU1525. We are considering building a 'shell' framework (like the AWS shell) that would allow any FPGA developer to compile encrypted code for our boards. We would provide a development environment (vivado) to the dev, provide the mining software, communication interface and facilitate fee collection on the devs behalf. If there are any FPGA developers who would be interested in building firmwares to be released to the community please contact me.
You would be able to use the device with the firmwares produced by whitefire990
Any interest?
Payment methods would be Crypto (obviously) and Credit Card / Paypal (identity verification would be required and shipping to your registered / verified address)
UPDATES:
The community seems to be uneasy that there is only one developer announcing they will be providing firmware for the VCU1525. We are considering building a 'shell' framework (like the AWS shell) that would allow any FPGA developer to compile encrypted code for our boards. We would provide a development environment (vivado) to the dev, provide the mining software, communication interface and facilitate fee collection on the devs behalf. If there are any FPGA developers who would be interested in building firmwares to be released to the community please contact me.
It is as I suspected. Economies of scale allow price to be lowered significantly. That is why bitmain can produce asics cheaper than competitors.
Those aren't in mass production yet.
You have said in the other thread that you mine using AWS and own a couple FPGAs yourself.... Could you please display them working before you start asking people about money?
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