Topic: Am I the only girl on here? : ( - page 76. (Read 147244 times)

Lessons learned after reading the thread:
1. If you are a male wanting to scam the others, don't claim to be a female as it will likely make the others more cautious.
2. If you are a female, don't claim to be a female as someone will consider you to be a potential scammer immediately.

I am now wondering if the fact of almost all users on bitcointalk appear to be male is the cause or the effect of 1&2.

I'm not a girl but sometimes my wife post with my account, so I'm 1/2 girl.

I don't know the stats -- I don't frequent the boards where most of these types of scammers hang out (only where the Trojan-peddling scammers hang out), so I'll take your word for it.


That's a straw man. I'm arguing that calling a woman a scammer because she mentions she is one is not sufficient cause. You're arguing that individuals who obviously have no legitimate purposes on this forum (Nigerian princes) should be called out as scammers (about which we all agree).

The analogy is inaccurate. Exactly 0% of the world's population today qualify as Nigerian princes. Just under 50% of the world's population are female, and so such a claim (of "I'm a girl") made on the Internet should not be met with such exceptional scrutiny.

In my mind, it comes down to three things.

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1. How sure should you be that someone is a scammer before accusing them (or loudly warning others)?

In other words, is it OK to accuse people if you're 90% sure (ChuckBuck's stats) if that also means you end up falsely accusing the other 10%? Should it make a difference if the accusation also has the potential to alienate a lot of others?

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2. What kind of evidence is acceptable to use? Simply being a female is clearly not acceptable evidence. Claiming to be a Nigerian prince clearly is acceptable. What about claiming openly to be a female (different from simply being one)? Is this acceptable to use that as evidence?

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3. What are the wider implications?

I don't know or care if fabiola! is a scammer or not, but:

Regardless of the scam%, what does it say about our community if we state that it's not acceptable to claim openly you are a female here on these forums? (of course, nobody cares if you claim openly you are a male)

Is it important that we, as a community, attempt to be welcoming to the "other 50%", especially given the current imbalance?

What if, in our attempt to be welcoming, we ignore potential scams? What if people lose real funds because they fall for scams about which some of us could have warned them?

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There are two sides to this. I don't think hilariousandco (or most of the other individuals in this thread, obvious trolls excluded) are sexist. But I do think the line is often drawn in the wrong place, in a place that makes Bitcoin seem like a nerdy-guys-only club, and that will benefit nobody in the end.

+1

woman already represent a big if not the biggest part as a target group in ecommerce sector. (lol, now i'm also objectifying woman  )
Some geeks buying food, soft/hardware and drugs is nice but it needs much more to grow the community.

btw welcome to the forum OP, hope you feel comfortable in here.
be aware of scammers and don't mention your gender on speculation board, sometimes testosterone driven traders tend to react a bit rough

Exactly. Thank goodness there are some decent guys on here not just sexist idiots. This has restored my faith in the btc community a lil bit : )

Stop being an idiot, don't objectify women. Women are important both inside and outside the crypto communities. The success of the payment protocol and further adoption relies on it.

Lol lol lol lol

Why don't you get a girlfriend and post pictures of her for BTC?

Oh shut up.

That's the main problem.

This is how it is
Guys interested in btc = early adopters, technology driven guys, etc.
Girls interested in btc = escort kind of girl who see btc as a new way to get sent free ££££ for naked activities of some sort

How can we turn it around so girls interested in btc equals girls interested in btc? (Just like it is for guys)

If I was a girl I Would post pics of myself naked for BTC, its that fucking easy if you have a good body.
Meanwhile as a man I have no fucking other ways to own BTC beyond risking my hard earned fiat money. T...thank you bitcoin.

@hilariousandco
Wow It seems scammers are really good nowadays and I can see that you guys are tired of them. And yes, I've seen a few girls on fiver who are selling signs etc, pretty awful.
Yes, Fabiola is my real name, if I was a scammer I would have chosen something more popular or girly or sexy sounding or whatever, no?

most of the women I know are escorts who accept bitcoin 

I am equally cautious, but there are certain criteria that immediately sets alarm bells off because they're commonly used by scammers. It's not about judging someone because they are female; it's about the same old tired tactics males use to try scam. Is it unfair that we scoff at Nigerian Princess & Nigerian lottery winners? Is it unfair and racist to state that they're likely not a Nigerian and are likely trying to pull a scam? No. Neither is it unfair to state my suspicions are aroused on this case because everything that is happening here is exactly what men who are pretending to be females say and state to make their point. I actually have more respect for women to think that they would behave this way, and it's the pathetic male scammers I am shaming here, not women.


Perfect example here. Would it have been sexist and unfair for me to have called this user out? No.


Fabiola is your own name? Using your own "name" is also a massive red flag. If you really are a woman these scammers who pretend to be them really know their shit because they do exactly the same things you do. Uncanny. I've gained a little bit more respect for them if you are genuinely a woman.


They shouldn't have to, but a picture proves nothing anyway. The decent male scammers will have them anyway:

Are the following users male or female?



Both men pretending to be female. Both conformed scammers, so this is why people are skeptical of women who come on here and do everything they can to assert their gender, because it's sadly what scammers do. I really wish women or Nigerians weren't treated with such suspicion here but sadly people have good reason to because of men abusing these profiles for their own financial gain.

Why do you need someone's trust? It might take a few months (to get out of the newbie/beginners zone) to make a name for yourself, if that what you're here for.

Ps. What's improving someone's trust? Can someone explain how this forum works?

Shorena, I second everything you said, you're absolutely right.

Ditto to you, Shorena.  Trust added to you for being the person you are.

May we never cross internet paths again!   

Not that it would be smart or even normal behaviour to demand a picture of the person selling a good or requesting a loan. Anyway I think this thread perfectly answers the question by OP.