Topic: [AMBER] X13 POW/POS| 10k AMBER=0,01% SHARES | BUY, HOLD & GET DIVIDENDS in BTC/$ - page 91. (Read 407572 times)

There is over 100 btc in payouts and 3 btc of amber at 5¢ or less... So yeah I've pointed this out repeatedly. Besides that I don't know. I'm tired of y'all whining and think it will be hysterical when only 1 person gets cheap coins, so I voted for btc payments it will help the market and investor confidence, and the coin needs that now. I made my choice 2 weeks ago, no need to force you into the same. Here's hoping a few of the whales start voting btc for y'all, because I can only imagine the tears if things don't work out some of you all's way.

DEV, it is written at Amber Trade page about investment protection:

"Repurchases of shares (investment protection):
We are ready to buy back all coins (shares in the company) bought from us at any time in any rounds of share offering at the purchase price. Thus, there is no risk of losing your investment.
In order to start this procedure the investor has to send their nominee declaration of trust to the company’s legal address as well as the required amount of coins to the company’s wallet. After that the company will transfer the money that was paid initially back to the client’s account within 5 days. Commission expenses, transfers and changes into the register of shareholders will be excluded from the amount of money paid initially. This procedure is for those who have a declaration of trust on hand.
For anonymous investors the procedure of repurchases of shares is the following: they have to inform the company about their intention to withdraw from shareholdings by sending a note to the company’s e-mail address as well as sending the corresponding number of coins to the company’s wallet. After that the company will return the full amount of money to the specified address of a bitcoin wallet within the next 5 days."

Will the coins got directly from the company (as dividends, if the conception of giving Amber wins) be treated as shares bought from the company? I think it should be possible to use the above procedure to that case. Am I right?

But why choose AMBER re-investment @ 0.05$ instead BTC payout and buy AMBER much cheaper afterwards (=more coins, double the amount actually)
It´s beyond me to vote for AMBER, especially since BTC took a 40$ dive recently (= more btc payout )


Maybe i´m blind and don´t get it, but what´s the advantage payout in AMBER

I can see none. Anybody tell me?

I voted! 

Status: 26 confirmations
Date: 16.01.2016 21:40
To: ARpJHrjCtpzLkc4FGXA1N6N6DDAysc6TcJ
Debit: -1.00 AMBER
Transaction fee: -0.0001 AMBER
Net amount: -1.0001 AMBER
Transaction ID: 217e0cf0bd6c3de04ed49f63f3a08fa4a352e0f8831ebefddce66d5ec1c13764

Voting intensifies. BTC camp is slightly ahead of amber.

Amber camp only need one medium shareholder to vote for, to break even.

It will be tight race all the way to an end. 

haha Payouts in Amber are winning, i was right once again. lol

Ok thanks for clarifying, what about non voting wallet:

"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 715781,
"timeoffset" : -10,
"moneysupply" : 43106003.63761927,
"connections" : 9,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 7.48377070,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.08525954

wallet weight:     443747
network weight: 4982995
expect time to earn reward is 11 minutes
no reward for almost 20 hours now 

It also depends on how much inputs your wallet address has.
If it is 1 then you should wait 12+ hours.

If more than 1 then it will be faster.

Most likely you have more than 1 input.

where was my min stake age?

That's it.
When you vote (send coins) from address that stakes its age decreases to 0.
And after that you'll have your next stake in 12+ hours.

Your minimum (12 hours) and maximum (30 days) age can differ 60 times.

did you send a coin to one of the wallets? if so you reset your stake age

Is staking off or my wallet is off    Has this something to do with ongoing voting experiment?

"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 715742,
"timeoffset" : -14,
"moneysupply" : 43105970.30586595,
"connections" : 16,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 2.98733660,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.05691514

also the network weight is somehow "lightweight"

I mean votes = shares not shareholders

I think not the number of votes, but the shares weight will be counted. Meaning of a vote from a wallet with more coins will have more weight at the decision. If I did the proper math around 60% of the shares(holder) decided to get AMBER beginning of January, which means the decision will be made by those shareholders: If they vote for AMBER again it is over....
Additionally, I can't find an argument, why a "normal" shareholder (normal means someone like you and me) would want to get the dividends in AMBER. They could just buy much cheaper on the market (leaving out of consideration the volume for now) and becoming much bigger share holder. Sure the company would buy back shares if they were from the company, but does this apply for shares from dividends? And how realistic is that the company would buy such shares back if most probably there are not enough BTC/$ for that, which is also the reason for the months delay and voting show. The company wants to have BTC and not AMBER coins (they just have more then enough of them and could also buy quite cheap at the exchange). The only problem is that some other wants to get BTC, too.......

Thank you for you help!

exactly the same I had in mind

While true I expect the BTC vote trend to continue, if it doesn't well I would suspect foul play. Theres no way people that have been waiting for 6 months just overwhelmingly decide to leave thousands of dollars on the table in exchange for more Amber. Not saying anything sinister WILL happen just stating I am a cautious type, I've been in crypto far too long not to suspect everyone and everything lol

Sure.
Because we have 100Gb/s connection it has been done yesterday morning

less than 24% votes by now - it could change (see no reason why, but it could)

Seems to me the overwhelming majority is BTC, which is what it should be