The facts as I see them are ASICMINER is leading the field in BTCmining right now, but they offer little transparency as to future plans, excepting that they intend to keep 10% of the Network hashing power and sell some hardware. AMC, to date, has been much more transparent about its intentions, and, though, they are ambitious, it seems that sustained interest from investors may bring those plans to fruition. It's a risky speculative investment, but I think a lot BTC investors are looking for big successes not small.
EDIT: BTC10,000 round of funding now:
17.22% complete
Topic: [AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion - page 97. (Read 223316 times)
I don't think anyone is expecting any 'mind blowing' news. The 'problem' the way I see it is that at current valuation, the company is already valued as a mature and profitable ASIC reseller. Hell, if you weight in the total dilution of 100.000.000 shares @ current price we are looking at 25 MILLION USD company that currently only own about $1 million in capital (if the new shares sell) and a few Avalon clones and chip orders.
That's the problem of valuing things by #shares * price, disregarding volume. AMC is only worth $25M if anyone is willing to pay that much for it as a whole.
I can say my car is worth $10M. Am I correct? I am if I find anyone wanting to buy it at that price (volume!).
You people need to grow up and start treating this like a business. The news is not going to be 'mind-blowing' - it is simply going to be a positive release that will by implication value shares at or more likely above the current issue @ B0.0025. You are living in a fantasy world if you are hoping for something 'really exciting'. This is business, so you should treat it as such - forget about having your mind blown and look at the figures. If you don't like them get out. Simple.
So you want us to slow down and think this through with logic and common sense? You have some nerve
People have created so much hype and expectation about this news, that it's almost impossible for any news to live up to the expectations now. No matter what the news are, most likely it will be less amazing, world-changing and mind bending than some people here anticipate.
That's what I'm thinking. Right now, pretty much anything short of 'We are acquiring Intel' will be a disappointment.
You people need to grow up and start treating this like a business. The news is not going to be 'mind-blowing' - it is simply going to be a positive release that will by implication value shares at or more likely above the current issue @ B0.0025. You are living in a fantasy world if you are hoping for something 'really exciting'. This is business, so you should treat it as such - forget about having your mind blown and look at the figures. If you don't like them get out. Simple.
I don't think anyone is expecting any 'mind blowing' news. The 'problem' the way I see it is that at current valuation, the company is already valued as a mature and profitable ASIC reseller. Hell, if you weight in the total dilution of 100.000.000 shares @ current price we are looking at 25 MILLION USD company that currently only own about $1 million in capital (if the new shares sell) and a few Avalon clones and chip orders.
People have created so much hype and expectation about this news, that it's almost impossible for any news to live up to the expectations now. No matter what the news are, most likely it will be less amazing, world-changing and mind bending than some people here anticipate.
That's what I'm thinking. Right now, pretty much anything short of 'We are acquiring Intel' will be a disappointment.
You people need to grow up and start treating this like a business. The news is not going to be 'mind-blowing' - it is simply going to be a positive release that will by implication value shares at or more likely above the current issue @ B0.0025. You are living in a fantasy world if you are hoping for something 'really exciting'. This is business, so you should treat it as such - forget about having your mind blown and look at the figures. If you don't like them get out. Simple.
I predict that Ken will announce that he bought company puppy as mascot and price of shares will explode to 1btc/share+ 
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ASICMINER volume slightly down.
From when lol ?
My time-frame.
People have created so much hype and expectation about this news, that it's almost impossible for any news to live up to the expectations now. No matter what the news are, most likely it will be less amazing, world-changing and mind bending than some people here anticipate.
That's what I'm thinking. Right now, pretty much anything short of 'We are acquiring Intel' will be a disappointment.
That valuation was of just Avalon chips. The price rise is entirely due to news being released about AMC's own chip.
People tend to overestimate when making decisions so I doubt people are truly expecting news that would be "world-changing".
People are more than likely using AM as a basis for this stock. AM is HIGHLY over priced but that doesn't even matter because people are still buying and paying that price which I guess we'd consider market value.
Rest assured if this company does what they say that are going to do, current prices will seem extremely cheap in the near future. And this is what we are all betting on right?
Any positive news on chip development will maintain the momentum, but I imagine the BTC10,000 (~$1,000,000 USD) would go towards assembling the Fast-Hash-80's with Avalon chips. It couldn't be enough to also fund a 45nm or 28nm chip fabrication run, could it?
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ASICMINER volume slightly down.
From when lol ?
As more shares are bought logic dictates that AMC will have the funds in hand to cover what they want to accomplish. More shares bought, more confidence in the company.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Isn't that what I said?
When AMC is almost selling out their shares at .0025, I suspect there will be selling in other securities to purchase AMC.
You could be right. So im testing this out with 4x PUT options i just purchased. B/E @ 3.325 with 1d 9h expiry.
Lets see if you/we are correct. If it comes good, where do i exit?
Tight window, but I think you're risk will be rewarded
Yes, too tight normally, but heres my trading logic:
ASICMINER ask orders around 300 shares currently to 4.00 (since in breached 3.00, the min/max has been 110/360 that ive noted).
ASICMINER recently released news that in my opinion, did not prick peoples interest much. Slightly negative sentiment creeping in, even.
ASICMINER volume slightly down.
The PUT price close to B/E now.
And for the very reason lewicki said. And for that reason, i think the expiry timing ties-in nicely. If it doesn't drop within that extra day Ive got, from the AMC news release, then the theory didn't happen. Thats not to say if it does drop during that window, it did work.....just could have got lucky, and we all need a bit of that from time to time.
People have created so much hype and expectation about this news, that it's almost impossible for any news to live up to the expectations now. No matter what the news are, most likely it will be less amazing, world-changing and mind bending than some people here anticipate.
That's what I'm thinking. Right now, pretty much anything short of 'We are acquiring Intel' will be a disappointment.
That valuation was of just Avalon chips. The price rise is entirely due to news being released about AMC's own chip.
People have created so much hype and expectation about this news, that it's almost impossible for any news to live up to the expectations now. No matter what the news are, most likely it will be less amazing, world-changing and mind bending than some people here anticipate.
That's what I'm thinking. Right now, pretty much anything short of 'We are acquiring Intel' will be a disappointment.
This info would indicate that unless the company turns out to be an almost overnight success, the current 0.0025 share price (5x 0.0005 in.. what a few weeks?) is fairly high.
Indeed. Nothing consistent will come of our speculation before knowing the news coming out today. I know it's hard, but WAIT FOR IT guys!
The 4,000,000 @ 0.0025 releases on BTC-TC and BitFunder
also known as BTC10,000 round of capital funding are now
14.88% sold
**partially obscured by shareholders who are also selling at 0.0025
also known as BTC10,000 round of capital funding are now
14.88% sold
**partially obscured by shareholders who are also selling at 0.0025
Hehe I haven't updated that for a while, but I will when we have some more facts out! 
Can someone just post an honest number on the BTC/USD value of AMC @ current share price? Are we really talking about 100.000.000 shares @ 0.0025 BTC each? Cause.. DAMN that is a high valuation (if this is the case)
As more shares are bought logic dictates that AMC will have the funds in hand to cover what they want to accomplish. More shares bought, more confidence in the company.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Isn't that what I said?
When AMC is almost selling out their shares at .0025, I suspect there will be selling in other securities to purchase AMC.
You could be right. So im testing this out with 4x PUT options i just purchased. B/E @ 3.325 with 1d 9h expiry.
Lets see if you/we are correct. If it comes good, where do i exit?
Tight window, but I think you're risk will be rewarded
As more shares are bought logic dictates that AMC will have the funds in hand to cover what they want to accomplish. More shares bought, more confidence in the company.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Wishful thinking that share price will dip, but some have to lose so others can gain I suppose.
Isn't that what I said?
When AMC is almost selling out their shares at .0025, I suspect there will be selling in other securities to purchase AMC.
You could be right. So im testing this out with 4x PUT options i just purchased. B/E @ 3.325 with 1d 9h expiry.
Lets see if you/we are correct. If it comes good, where do i exit?
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