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March 03, 2017, 06:02:58 AM
#33
Little bird told me Ryzen R7 1800x  1390h/s mining XMR
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March 03, 2017, 02:53:54 AM
#32
1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
My AMD FX8320E gives 320 H/S for Cryptonight with six threads while I'm able to mine other coins with my GPUs consuming 65W extra. While GPUs are much better, Ryzen may be able to close the gap. At least to an extent with Cryptonight.

65W extra for 320H is very efficient. It is better than RX 480.
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March 02, 2017, 10:41:18 PM
#31
1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others


It's not worthless, cpu mining is complementary. Wink


 



 
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 06:04:40 PM
#30
THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks

a friend of mine received his today but the mobo isnt there yet, if no one else chimes in till that is the case i can provide numbers for the 1700 stock and with max OC


I'll be watching Smiley....I'm still gonna  hold off for the cheaper ones all most bought one of the low end ones released to day on New egg but still gonna wait after my FX 8 core buys a few years back on day one .. I'll let others test them this time ...

for anyone interested  the AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 95W YD180XBCAEWOF Desktop Processor sold out fast eta on restock 10 th of March, they still have the other two in stock..

you might find more on Amazon but they cost more then new egg I run a app on firefox that prices Amazon on new egg .
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March 02, 2017, 05:20:22 PM
#29
THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks

a friend of mine received his today but the mobo isnt there yet, if no one else chimes in till that is the case i can provide numbers for the 1700 stock and with max OC
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March 02, 2017, 04:16:13 PM
#28
THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks
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March 02, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
#27
Hi Povertybyte

Sure, my intention wasn't to bash, just to report a conclusion that could help others in this sector, while considering to invest heavily, or not, in State-Of-The-Art CPUs.

With this goal surely the CPU, given it's name "Central Processing Unit", it's fundamental, but just for mining purposes unfortunately not.

I am pretty sure that the Ryzen architecture could bring benefits, but I see that the multi-threading implementation for these architectures needs a lot of phisical and logical cores, so it could be interesting surely for the server derivations with higher TDPs and raw power. From what I've seen RYZEN seems just a stop-gap measure in opposition to the Intel dominance, because of an i7 7700K has the edge on a lof of applications, due the single thread performance.

What could really move something could be the new Intel 7950x with 24 threads, potentially, not a 95W TDP RYZEN.

The main issue is the fact that when we'll have that, there will be VOLTA refresh and the successor of VEGA.
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March 02, 2017, 03:02:49 PM
#26
1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others

This is relevant to those who are making dedicate mining rigs

Some people may be building a new PC anyway and would like to put their CPU to work when not in use. Far as just trying to cram a mining CPU into a regular GPU mining rig we got awhile before we see any ideal AM4 based motherboards for mining rigs

XMR aside, there are rising new altcoins that are open game for CPU's. You may want to keep mentioning that CPU mining is inferior but for the rest of us who care to utilize the CPU please let us speculate and archive any hash rate reports we can find in here or whatever new thread when Ryzen is actually out. I'd really just like a clean thread of just Ryzen hashrates without this GPU vs. CPU debate cluttering the first page and beyond
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March 02, 2017, 10:36:10 AM
#25
1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
My AMD FX8320E gives 320 H/S for Cryptonight with six threads while I'm able to mine other coins with my GPUs consuming 65W extra. While GPUs are much better, Ryzen may be able to close the gap. At least to an extent with Cryptonight.
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March 02, 2017, 06:30:23 AM
#24
1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
legendary
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March 02, 2017, 02:00:20 AM
#23
Given it hasn't even been released yet (later this week), how are we going to share hashrates?
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March 02, 2017, 12:56:14 AM
#22
thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiwynn-SV7210-Two-Node-Open-Compute-Server-Dual-LGA-2011-/391296440423

All you need to do is buy 4 cheap E5-2600 V1 cpu's and some cheap ddr 3 ram and a SSD and 240 volt power source, will run Linux and windows 7 just fine.

Interesting

I am curious about using this to mine XMR and switch to new alts for early dibs on the mining
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March 01, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
#21
thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate


Yea but they are power hungry.

But you can buy a new socket G34 4 cpu motherboard for under $80.00 of course you would have to deal with non standard format and non standard power connectivity and every time I thought of it I quickly talked myself out of it.

The more standard boards are more expensive to the point its not worth it.

It's worth doing if you could get a deal on a decommissioned server for cheap.

But you can purchase a dual node dual cpu open compute socket 2011 Wiwynn server new in the box for under $200.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiwynn-SV7210-Two-Node-Open-Compute-Server-Dual-LGA-2011-/391296440423

All you need to do is buy 4 cheap E5-2600 V1 cpu's and some cheap ddr 3 ram and a SSD and 240 volt power source, will run Linux and windows 7 just fine.

The only reason I have have not bought several is I moving away from socket 2011 and moving to socket 2011-3.


EDIT: Every time I look at those open compute servers I am SO tempted........I must not buy.........must not........will power must have will power.....LOL
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NoizChain
March 01, 2017, 09:03:51 PM
#20
thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate
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March 01, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
#19
Two E5-2667 V3 ES 8 core cpu's running Wolfs GPU XMR miner average ~1150 H/s .

[19:26:35] New job at diff 100002
[19:26:35] Thread 2, (CPU): 35.40H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 20, (CPU): 37.13H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 33, (CPU): 34.98H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 28, (CPU): 35.34H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 11, (CPU): 35.95H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 4, (CPU): 36.18H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 31, (CPU): 38.17H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 25, (CPU): 36.45H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 21, (CPU): 36.10H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 26, (CPU): 35.24H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 23, (CPU): 35.04H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 17, (CPU): 35.13H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 19, (CPU): 35.69H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 22, (CPU): 34.83H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 9, (CPU): 36.44H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 5, (CPU): 35.91H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 15, (CPU): 35.49H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 18, (CPU): 35.82H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 24, (CPU): 35.23H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 30, (CPU): 34.75H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 10, (CPU): 35.69H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 8, (CPU): 36.04H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 32, (CPU): 35.52H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 12, (CPU): 34.56H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 29, (CPU): 35.68H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 27, (CPU): 37.30H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 7, (CPU): 35.57H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 13, (CPU): 35.18H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 16, (CPU): 35.43H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 6, (CPU): 34.81H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 3, (CPU): 33.71H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 14, (CPU): 37.04H/s


Yes cpu's can be viable.

EDIT: Added this from the Serve The Home forum Monero performance post.

"CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)


ARM CPU Results (thanks Fractal)
ARM Cortex A7 (Odroid-C1) 5.9H/s (no AES)
ARM Cortex A53 (Odroid-C2) 7.2 H/s (no AES)
ARM Cortex A53 (Pine64) 12.5 H/s @ 4.1W (using AES instructions, thermal limited) 3H/W

GPU Results (ccminer)
1/4x GRID M40 GPU = 220H/s
1x GRID M40 GPU = 880H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1070 (ASUS STRIX) = 475H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (ASUS dual fan) = 431H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA ACX single fan) = 432H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti 4GB (PNY) = 297H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 970 (ASUS STRIX) = 375H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti = 205 H/s (Fractal)
1x NVIDIA GRID K520 (AWS g2.2xlarge) = 164H/s
1x NVIDIA K80 (one of two GPUs AWS p2.xlarge) = 209H/s"




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March 01, 2017, 04:22:04 PM
#18
CPU's often have first dibs on new coins before good GPU miners are made. Getting early mining on a coin before it reaches top 100 is indeed profitable.
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March 01, 2017, 03:21:28 PM
#17
yeah that will do.
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March 01, 2017, 02:50:31 PM
#15
Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?
If you are right why are everyone using GPU over CPU now ? Difficulty is constantly increasing and with low CPU hashrate you will eventually be in a loss. Ryzen cannot earn you money. For that 350$ (1700) you can get almost RX 470 and for a few more bucks you can get another one. CPU mining is just a nonsense. I asked you something last time. Chose cpu and algo and please let us all know what is ROI time and then compare invested money with some GPU in same price range and then tell me CPU mining is any profitable.

first of all you did not ask him but you asked me ... second : on cryptonight the cpu has more profitability than gpu , and there are still some coin mineable only by cpu. the problem with cpu is that for each cpu u need a motherboard and so on , making them very expensive for mining , but if you consider that for each cpu u can pair 6 gpus.... then you are gonna roi pretty fast...


just fyi : at the moment 2 opteron cpus are capable of pulling 900 h/s at less than 100w in monero. such cpu combo will cost around 150 Eur (like a graphic card) problem is that you can
stack up to 4 cpus in an opteron motherboard... and 4cpus mobo are blody expensive....

so CPU WILL HIT ROI , and CPU ARE , ACTUALLY , MORE PROFITABLE THAN GPU , they will just roi slower due to the bond , usually 1 cpu - 1 motherboard.
imagine make 1 rig and for each rig use only 1 videocard.....



here is 6 , SIX, stupid examples of coins that used to bring me not only roi with a cpu but also some serious profit (from oldest to newest )

1 ) BITCOIN (in 2009 was cpu minable only)
2 ) XPM
3 ) XMR
4 ) XMG
5 ) ZCASH
6 ) PASCAL

and this just coz i aint mined zcoin ........


not to mention  that MAGI (XMG ) is still cpu only , and there are more coins cpu only.... but better not to open the eyes to ignorant.... better leave them in the darkness...


yup those boards do cost a long time ago i had one that took two cpu the board cost me if remember right 300 bucks and that was a few years ago they are way more now ..
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NoizChain
March 01, 2017, 02:35:11 PM
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just fyi : at the moment 2 opteron cpus are capable of pulling 900 h/s at less than 100w in monero. such cpu combo will cost around 150 Eur (like a graphic card) problem is that you can
stack up to 4 cpus in an opteron motherboard... and 4cpus mobo are blody expensive....

so CPU WILL HIT ROI , and CPU ARE , ACTUALLY , MORE PROFITABLE THAN GPU , they will just roi slower due to the bond , usually 1 cpu - 1 motherboard.
imagine make 1 rig and for each rig use only 1 videocard.....


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do you have more info about it please? is it opteron 6276? I think it can be possible to get motherboard for 2 cpu, but it will need at least 3 pcie slots for gpu... do you know what is the best combination of mobo+cpu
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