Topic: Americans go to Mexico for medicals to cut costs. - page 3. (Read 1094 times)

Maybe you don't understand. You can't compare the standard of living of Germany to some of the developing countries, for example, to Zimbabwe but really a lot of foods in Zimbabwe cost more than in Germany. And I've been in some small countries that have low monthly salaries but import things and holy shit, chocolate and chips were three times more expensive than in Germany and somehow there were small supermarkets on every foot step.

So, that's why I say that pharma companies are robbing people in the USA. Materials cost the same, equipment costs the same, I believe there is no astronomical difference in production and delivery expenses. But you know what? There is an oligopoly on market and these companies do price fixing, maximizing the already enormously high profits and paying some money to the government to keep their mouth shut. That's what makes insulin and other medicines to cost that high in the USA, nothing else.
And high standard of living means when you earn high and spend low to fulfill your needs. If you earn high and spend high, then it's just an illusion to think you have higher salary than any person who lives in developing country if the cost/income/spend ratio is the same. But that's not so in the USA, we all know that.

I don't really understand what's the connection between that quote of mine and your reply.

I don't think medical tourist in Mexico is as dangerous as people insinuate. When procedures in the US are of "high" quality and expensive, it becomes a weapon against poorer people who can't afford it here in the States. It's natural to seek alternative services if the ones nearer you are at cut-throat prices.

You should know this already, 'It's called the stand of living.' You can't compare the standard of living in the US with that of Turkey. Even the power of their currencies varies, and the exchange rate of the USD in Turkey and most countries will make it feel that it is worth more. But it's still the same USD in the US, and its effect can't be felt the way it will be felt outside the country.

I can't blame the US for this, they have a good trade balance most times, they don't force countries, and they produce attractive goods and services that other countries might not be able to resist. To further with, the US is more capitalist and the government is not the one taking money directly from other countries, however, the citizens who gain through the system are entitled to pay their dues. I see no chetaing here. It's their standard and a floating market system and I believe is pure economics, therefore you shouldn't blame them for that. No true economist would.

This is affecting them truly, it's one of the reasons why countries are turning to China and the like, even US companies go elsewhere to set up their factories to produce less costly goods. But the US still remains atop, for how long? I can't say. Nevertheless, the thing that is certain is that the US can't reduce their standard for any country or trade, they get to this level due to the economic boom and floating market.

Some countries with good standards of living and valuable currencies will continue to patronise them.

I got it, buddy. How do you deal with living in a world when the gaps between people are as high as skyscrapers? Painful. Yet, if you're dealt a lemon in life, you should turn it into lemonade, right? The majors!

Try to be creative with what we’ve got and figure out how to make it go further. Gather a group, divide up the resources, and help one another out. You may also establish a business and provide us and other people with fantastic opportunities.

The choices, my buddy, are virtually limitless. Maintain a positive attitude and an open mind. Perhaps we can change the world for the better. Reckon on it!

How i badly wish to step into this country but of course VISA and visit i do believe is strict as hell plus a very expensive one specially if you do came to a third world country which is something that very understandable. Even just simply looking on movies or videos then you could really say that this is a great country in all aspects but of course i dont dig deeper when it comes to politics or something in the negative side. Going back into the top in speaking about cost of living there would really be not that cheap. We know that inequality is something a global problem which cant really be that avoided or something inevitable
or really have that kind of exemption.

There would be always those people who dont earn that much and everyday living would be always a challenge.If you are someone who do earn up decent then you would be able to
survive and wont be minding in regarding expenses or what but if you are that average joe who do earn only sufficient then you would really be mindful on things which
you could be able to save up at least no matter how small it would be.

I don't say that it's impossible with American salaries to get medical treatment in the USA, no, I mean, why should product X cost 20 times more in the USA than in Turkey? Yeah, the USA generates a lot of money by doing so but at the very cost of people, 2000% margin profit is not normal or any good.
While I like American model very much and don't wanna feed lazy asses by me working hard and they getting housing and all the other benefits, the only thing where I would make exception is education and healthcare: I think everyone deserves to have access to high quality education and normal healthcare, especially poor people because no one knows what kind of potential anyone carries, maybe this poor guy will positively change the world tomorrow.

And long-term, if the USA keep enormous prices, they'll lose. If you ask anyone about medical thing, Turkey comes to their mind. The quality of healthcare is getting higher and higher in Turkey but prices are lower. When clinic X offers me the same quality of service in the USA and clinic Y offers me absolutely the same in Turkey but with 10x lower price, definitely I'll go in clinic Y and I'll tell my friends to go there. This is a process where Turkey is gaining attention, reputation and I believe, long-term it's not beneficial for the USA.

There is an avalanche of people who will violently disagree with you on the economic and political parts, but it's easy to be naive and believe that the US can offer good healthcare for all (provided that you can afford it).

But, that's not true either. Even though they have some of the best hospitals, there is too much bureaucratic activity from insurance companies to let you get the best possible treatment. It's not uncommon to get a mediocre treatment just because of some silly policy made by the hospital mangement.




Visit, probably. Living there, however, is a different matter, especially if you don't have much money.

Frankly, I share your view in this regard, still, there are local government-controlled hospitals that are accessible to the people. This might not be enough but you should be aware that the standard of living in the US is high and their medical insurance system is top-notch for those that plan their lives well. For this, many would be able to afford it, and it's also a means of generating more money for the economy.

Nonetheless, when anyone can't afford it, they can go to another country for the same service, e.g neighbouring countries.

I understand you perfectly well, but this doesn't change the fact that people are doing it and they have their reasons. I believe they must have weighed their options before jumping to such a conclusion. Flying in and out of the US for medical treatment plus the cost of the service might still not be up to half of what they would be billed in the US.

So, the option might still be worth it.

greatt point stated - America is a great place if you have not visited America in your life you have not visited the world, they have great customers services - great ethics and wonderful business rules

Medical and other stuff have different results. If apple uses China to produce iphones, that's fine, the worst case is that some American workers are not getting money, and iphone is a little cheaper thanks to that. But if we are talking about having to go to another nation when you have cancer for example, that's not going to be good, or to have your chemo? What are you going to do go to another nation once a week or once every two weeks? That's not normal, that should not be normal at least.

It's not the same thing, you can get a product made somewhere else, but you need your health to be taken care of as near as you can be. What happens if an accident happens? Like car crash, you either die, or you are in poverty for being in an American hospital. How is that the two options you have? That's sick.

Compare European healthcare to American healthcare, do you prefer the USA model? The USA is too much into capitalism, a little bit socialism is necessary.

Today, almost every popular youtuber says the same: I haven't finished a school or haven't got a college degree but see how much money I make. You study hard for years and years but hardly afford to pay bills.
It's very sad that this situation exists. Okay, let's forget studying, let's not study engineering, medicine, we pay them less, right? And we pay more to youtubers, fine, we don't need to study because boxers, footballers, youtubers, instagram influencers make more money and they advise us to do so. At the moment everything works fine because everything has been settled down for years but if young generation follows their advice and we keep continue low money to educated people, who is actually gonna help you when you need to build a house, when you need to have a surgery? Who is actually gonna help you when your car stops working? And a lot of young guys follow this advice, people stop college, move in Instagram and TikTok. If it will lead us to better life long-term, let's see it.

You are getting something wrong here, the US like any other country can never enslave their citizen, and mind you, many countries are coming to the US for tourism, it could be medical and others, so money is moving in and out of every country. This is why you should have good service and a reasonable price. If a Yankee that earns a little could not afford to pay medical bills in the US but could easily do that in another country that will serve the same service, won't such go? Or do you want the government of the US to stop them? No, my friend.

As for the YouTuber's narration, this is a misconception, markets vary. What the medicals are paying is not what factories, farms and others are paying, it all varies. A booming market is different from a dull market. The social media market is rich and booming, you can't expect those that keep it active to be paid less while the companies pocket billions of dollars yearly.

Frankly, some are spending huge amounts on their channels, they deserve the huge payments.

oh - great info shared.
I will search about it - is the herbal treatment in Mexico good enough to travel so much for it?
Is it really worth travelling?

In addition to lower prices, some Americans may go to Mexico in search of treatments or cures that are not accepted or common in America. For example, many Americans have come to Mexico for treatment using traditional herbal treatments or drugs that have not been approved by the FDA. However, this can carry many risks and is not recommended. In addition, some Americans come to Mexico for mental health services or other types of psychological treatment that are not common in the United States. However, as in the case of drug treatment, this may not guarantee quality or safety.

I think that no country should move factories in another country. It's weakening country and making another one stronger. Yeah, one can take an advantage for a while but long-term, it's destroying. I think, at some point, it's manually done by big countries to push poor countries to work on low salaries. Move factories there, give them salary low enough to buy only food and then push them to work a lot. This way, you keep labor cheap, make them tired enough with low salary to not be able to develop themselves and benefit your own country. Why should an American retard youtuber get paid more than a very hard-working person in factory whose work actually benefits the society and hundreds of people.
But high medical costs in the USA are far from that reason. As far as I know, medical business, in terms of pricing, is absolutely unregulated in the USA. There is no logical reason that makes X service in the USA to cost 20x more than in Turkey. It's more likely a cartel between the hospitals/pharmacy, insurance agencies and the government.

In addition if think  the language barrier can also be a challenge for some Americans seeking medical care in Mexico. While many health care providers in Mexico speak English, some Americans may still have difficulty communicating effectively with their health care providers

The other reason is probably for vacation maybe some buy their drugs there since it's cheaper as you're much closer to the source. It's kind of out of touch of you OP to say that you see USA as a perfect country when there's an abundance of information about the issues that they're facing especially the medical costs in USA, it's been a staple in memes and ridicule so I don't know how you didn't piece it together.

It doesn't necessarily have something to do with the country being developed, a developed country should not have such issues in the first place in my opinion. People living in a developed country should be able to afford the medical expenses of their country and the government should make sure that things are done that way so that their citizens don't go somewhere else only to get better medical care.

And sometimes, even the citizens who are pretty well-to-do, even from third-world countries, tend to go to other places only to cut the costs and save money knowing they can get the same treatment for a better price at the other place.

Getting medical care and saving money aren't the only things. Because the quality of treatment there is also an important issue. All those who go there for treatment are aware and expect better treatment at low cost. And such images exist almost everywhere in the world. If a country offers low cost and good medical services then many tourists will come to that country from neighboring countries. Medical care is more important than money. The main motive for Americans to go to Mexico may be the assurance of good care at low cost.

I have taught myself never to take to full consideration without having up front information before believing what the media puts out there, that’s the situation you find yourself because it’s the media that puts it out there.

America is a wide  country and a very populated country and with many migrating to the USA for greener pastures, I don’t believe the wealth and the social benefits are evenly distributed, there are those leaving below average and can’t afford the medical bills in the USA so see Mexico as an alternative.