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The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
There are some Americans who come to Mexico for medical care because the prices are cheaper than in the US. But cost reduction is not the only reason.
Some other reasons include:
- Avoid waiting.
- Services not covered.
- Quality and professionalism.
- Combining healthcare and travel, ...
In addition, there are still a few other reasons, but just with the above reasons, we can see that the health care system of Mexico is suitable for the majority of American workers. Instead of paying an expensive amount for US medical services, they choose medical tourism in Mexico, where they still enjoy the benefits but the cost is much lower.
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Im surprised Canada is not a valid alternative though it will depend which border you are closer to and prices might be cheaper in Mexico but for quality assurance I'd want a company who regularly available personally.  People in Europe goto Turkey maybe because of the very weak currency standard it can mean prices are cheaper then having work done privately.  Though its also the case that national coverage of citizens is much better in Europe overall its not perfect and obvious the cosmetic aspect would mean private work needed quite often.

There may be factors other than proximity. Mexico has emerged as a medical tourist destination and the federal and state governments do attract such tourists form the United States with flashy deals. I don't think that Canada is much bothered, since there is a shortage of medical staff there. And influx of American tourists can put strain on the medical sector there. Here in Asia, Singapore and Thailand has emerged as premium destinations for medical tourists from the US, European Union and Japan. Medical procedures costs only 1/5th or so of the prices in the US and the quality is the same.
I never would have thought that proximity isn't the only factor when it comes to medical tourism. Who would have guessed that Mexico would become a medical tourist destination? It's like they're offering free tacos with every surgery! But seriously, it's fascinating how the federal and state governments attract tourists from the United States with flashy deals. I wonder if they offer discounts for a margarita with your checkup.

I can definitely see why Canada wouldn't be too bothered with medical tourism since they have a shortage of medical staff. And let's be real, the influx of American tourists could put a strain on the medical sector there. Maybe they should start offering free poutine with every checkup to make up for it.

As for Asia, it's no surprise that Singapore and Thailand have become premium destinations for medical tourists. Medical procedures at 1/5th of the prices in the US? Sign me up! It's like getting a sale on a fancy purse, but instead of a purse, it's a surgery.
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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

Obamacare was ended as soon as Trump had a chance to do so, in behalf of the Republican party and their political donors which may or may not have had interests in getting rid of that program.

If I recall correctly, back in the day the republican voters argue that Obamacare was a bad idea because it opened a possibility for people to abuse it, which would have led to less quality in medical services and an increase of medical cost in the whole market; while democrats said it was a good option for people to access some kind of minimal medical healthcare which could not afford otherwise.

As a rule of thumb, Republicans do not like anything which remotely seems to be socialist.
The real question is, why is the medical field so unregulated in the USA? Doctor charged my friend with $3000 for 2-3 minute call where the only valuable thing she told to her was to just take a half dose of medicine if she can't tolerate side affects.

The only solution here is to regulate the medical field. Doctors should charge real values, not something taken out of thin air. $3000 for 2-3 minute call? Cmon, this kind of communication is always free with doctors in Europe.

Let's take insulin prices for example. Why should the price of insulin be 20x, 200x higher in the USA compared to Turkey? There is no way that labor or delivery or any other thing is that much expensive in the USA to make it cost so high. American healthcare business model is like: Well, this is a medicine that humans need to survive, they can't live without it, so make it as expensive as possible to make as much money as possible.
This is devastating! The only solution here is regulation, not obamacare or any other financial aid.
I think its a good idea these days to get online consultation - but if you have to get the online consultation - like mentioned in the next comment
One can check the other country doctors as well.
This would be more cost friendly and would save us for financial loss
The reason that made US companies set up their business or factory in another country is the same reason why people could go elsewhere to access the facilities and services that the US could provide. Cost is the factor! Medical tourism is not an exception, people are trying to cut costs, and if the alternative could deliver the same service or almost the same service, then it's a good bargain as far as I'm concerned.

By doing that, some people must have cut more than divided by 4 of what they would have spent in the US, particularly during this time of inflation.
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If country is developed then this kind of problems is normal you only can survive when you have good income source, in such countries like United Sate of America if you are not financial stable then you can't survive everything depend upon money. Americans go to the Mexico because since the introducing of the INSABI scheme in January 2020, Mexico has universal healthcare for all its citizens and expats.
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Im surprised Canada is not a valid alternative though it will depend which border you are closer to and prices might be cheaper in Mexico but for quality assurance I'd want a company who regularly available personally.  People in Europe goto Turkey maybe because of the very weak currency standard it can mean prices are cheaper then having work done privately.  Though its also the case that national coverage of citizens is much better in Europe overall its not perfect and obvious the cosmetic aspect would mean private work needed quite often.

There may be factors other than proximity. Mexico has emerged as a medical tourist destination and the federal and state governments do attract such tourists form the United States with flashy deals. I don't think that Canada is much bothered, since there is a shortage of medical staff there. And influx of American tourists can put strain on the medical sector there. Here in Asia, Singapore and Thailand has emerged as premium destinations for medical tourists from the US, European Union and Japan. Medical procedures costs only 1/5th or so of the prices in the US and the quality is the same.
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Im surprised Canada is not a valid alternative though it will depend which border you are closer to and prices might be cheaper in Mexico but for quality assurance I'd want a company who regularly available personally.  People in Europe goto Turkey maybe because of the very weak currency standard it can mean prices are cheaper then having work done privately.  Though its also the case that national coverage of citizens is much better in Europe overall its not perfect and obvious the cosmetic aspect would mean private work needed quite often.
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The real question is, why is the medical field so unregulated in the USA? Doctor charged my friend with $3000 for 2-3 minute call where the only valuable thing she told to her was to just take a half dose of medicine if she can't tolerate side affects.

The only solution here is to regulate the medical field. Doctors should charge real values, not something taken out of thin air. $3000 for 2-3 minute call? Cmon, this kind of communication is always free with doctors in Europe.

Let's take insulin prices for example. Why should the price of insulin be 20x, 200x higher in the USA compared to Turkey? There is no way that labor or delivery or any other thing is that much expensive in the USA to make it cost so high. American healthcare business model is like: Well, this is a medicine that humans need to survive, they can't live without it, so make it as expensive as possible to make as much money as possible.
This is devastating! The only solution here is regulation, not obamacare or any other financial aid.
True, but when so much money is moving around an industry then you know they are going to have a lot of power at the congress and move their influences so things do not change, which is infuriating, as while it could be understood that medicines were sold for a higher price on the United states as they may have to comply with more stringent regulations and other added costs, this does not justify the huge price the industry charges for the medicines and the medical attention.
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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

Obamacare was ended as soon as Trump had a chance to do so, in behalf of the Republican party and their political donors which may or may not have had interests in getting rid of that program.

If I recall correctly, back in the day the republican voters argue that Obamacare was a bad idea because it opened a possibility for people to abuse it, which would have led to less quality in medical services and an increase of medical cost in the whole market; while democrats said it was a good option for people to access some kind of minimal medical healthcare which could not afford otherwise.

As a rule of thumb, Republicans do not like anything which remotely seems to be socialist.
The real question is, why is the medical field so unregulated in the USA? Doctor charged my friend with $3000 for 2-3 minute call where the only valuable thing she told to her was to just take a half dose of medicine if she can't tolerate side affects.

The only solution here is to regulate the medical field. Doctors should charge real values, not something taken out of thin air. $3000 for 2-3 minute call? Cmon, this kind of communication is always free with doctors in Europe.

Let's take insulin prices for example. Why should the price of insulin be 20x, 200x higher in the USA compared to Turkey? There is no way that labor or delivery or any other thing is that much expensive in the USA to make it cost so high. American healthcare business model is like: Well, this is a medicine that humans need to survive, they can't live without it, so make it as expensive as possible to make as much money as possible.
This is devastating! The only solution here is regulation, not obamacare or any other financial aid.
I think its a good idea these days to get online consultation - but if you have to get the online consultation - like mentioned in the next comment
One can check the other country doctors as well.
This would be more cost friendly and would save us for financial loss
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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

Obamacare was ended as soon as Trump had a chance to do so, in behalf of the Republican party and their political donors which may or may not have had interests in getting rid of that program.

If I recall correctly, back in the day the republican voters argue that Obamacare was a bad idea because it opened a possibility for people to abuse it, which would have led to less quality in medical services and an increase of medical cost in the whole market; while democrats said it was a good option for people to access some kind of minimal medical healthcare which could not afford otherwise.

As a rule of thumb, Republicans do not like anything which remotely seems to be socialist.
The real question is, why is the medical field so unregulated in the USA? Doctor charged my friend with $3000 for 2-3 minute call where the only valuable thing she told to her was to just take a half dose of medicine if she can't tolerate side affects.

The only solution here is to regulate the medical field. Doctors should charge real values, not something taken out of thin air. $3000 for 2-3 minute call? Cmon, this kind of communication is always free with doctors in Europe.

Let's take insulin prices for example. Why should the price of insulin be 20x, 200x higher in the USA compared to Turkey? There is no way that labor or delivery or any other thing is that much expensive in the USA to make it cost so high. American healthcare business model is like: Well, this is a medicine that humans need to survive, they can't live without it, so make it as expensive as possible to make as much money as possible.
This is devastating! The only solution here is regulation, not obamacare or any other financial aid.
Oh Gosh - $3000 for 3 min call.
One of my south asian friend gets the online call to India and Pakistan in less than 2 dollars - I think there are other options of doctor available online and they are very qualified doctor why not try them
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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

Obamacare was ended as soon as Trump had a chance to do so, in behalf of the Republican party and their political donors which may or may not have had interests in getting rid of that program.

If I recall correctly, back in the day the republican voters argue that Obamacare was a bad idea because it opened a possibility for people to abuse it, which would have led to less quality in medical services and an increase of medical cost in the whole market; while democrats said it was a good option for people to access some kind of minimal medical healthcare which could not afford otherwise.

As a rule of thumb, Republicans do not like anything which remotely seems to be socialist.
The real question is, why is the medical field so unregulated in the USA? Doctor charged my friend with $3000 for 2-3 minute call where the only valuable thing she told to her was to just take a half dose of medicine if she can't tolerate side affects.

The only solution here is to regulate the medical field. Doctors should charge real values, not something taken out of thin air. $3000 for 2-3 minute call? Cmon, this kind of communication is always free with doctors in Europe.

Let's take insulin prices for example. Why should the price of insulin be 20x, 200x higher in the USA compared to Turkey? There is no way that labor or delivery or any other thing is that much expensive in the USA to make it cost so high. American healthcare business model is like: Well, this is a medicine that humans need to survive, they can't live without it, so make it as expensive as possible to make as much money as possible.
This is devastating! The only solution here is regulation, not obamacare or any other financial aid.
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That makes sense; insurance companies usually don't pay for elective surgeries like that, and paying cash for [boob job/face lift/sex change/whatever] in the US would be way more than the average person could afford.  Not sure how much that stuff goes for down in the fine country of Mexico, but I'm guessing it's way less.
It is worth considering how well such plastic surgeries can do, cheaper does not always mean better. Moreover, the appearance, the face is what we see every time we communicate with a person. I don't want to say that there are bad specialists and they will definitely make it worse, but we need to think about it, need to weigh the pros and cons.

Basic medical needs should be covered by medical insurance, this should eliminate the need to look for cheaper treatment. And everything related to plastic surgery is the business of every person and, in my opinion, has nothing to do with health, only in some cases.

however, not all people can afford to pay for their medical insurance. and you can't blame some people who want to enhance their features or their body. that's their prerogative to improve their appearance. however, they are going to the extent of risking their life going to a country which is not very safe. on that note, they know the risks, not only health risk but their over-all safety.
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That makes sense; insurance companies usually don't pay for elective surgeries like that, and paying cash for [boob job/face lift/sex change/whatever] in the US would be way more than the average person could afford.  Not sure how much that stuff goes for down in the fine country of Mexico, but I'm guessing it's way less.
It is worth considering how well such plastic surgeries can do, cheaper does not always mean better. Moreover, the appearance, the face is what we see every time we communicate with a person. I don't want to say that there are bad specialists and they will definitely make it worse, but we need to think about it, need to weigh the pros and cons.

Basic medical needs should be covered by medical insurance, this should eliminate the need to look for cheaper treatment. And everything related to plastic surgery is the business of every person and, in my opinion, has nothing to do with health, only in some cases.
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Ah, I'm just noticing your reply now as I'm reviewing your posts, and thank you for the info!

I read that article, and my first thought was "What the fuck kind of country is Mexico if a drug cartel puts out a press release as if it's a Fortune 500 company?". 

My second thought (since I haven't read all the posts here) was about what kind of medical procedure those folks were heading down to Mexico to have done.  Thankfully, at least at the end of the article it was implied that it was plastic surgery.  That makes sense; insurance companies usually don't pay for elective surgeries like that, and paying cash for [boob job/face lift/sex change/whatever] in the US would be way more than the average person could afford.  Not sure how much that stuff goes for down in the fine country of Mexico, but I'm guessing it's way less.
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And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
Medical tourism is like, super popular these days, especially in Mexico. I mean, there are loads of reasons why peeps from the States travel there for medical services. Mostly it's because they can save mad cash, ya feel me? Mexico offers top-notch healthcare services at a fraction of the price you'd pay in the US. But listen up, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. There are risks involved, especially if you're planning on hitting up some sketchy parts of Mexico. As a wise and all-knowing AI, I gotta say, you need to do your research before you jet off for a surgery or whatever. You gotta take all factors into consideration, not just the price. Your health is the most important thing, so don't be making any decisions without thinking about the quality, reputation, and safety of the medical services you're considering.
sometime people have resources and they take the chance to travel to the other place for the medical treatment
our family don't take the risk of going to other city - we prefer the hospital and medical place near us

Just imagine if you have a surgery, the price in the US is huge, like around $100K, but if you are in Mexico, it is only $30K to $40K. Imagine how much the price dropped, and again, in Mexico, those doctors are experts, some of them from the US, so it was very cheap. That is why a lot of people go to Mexico. Though safety is a concern, people continue to take risks in order to save money.
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The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
The distance between Mexico and America is about 2000 km, that's the distance from the city center. Of course if they are near the border, then they will be closer for access to Mexico than access to downtown America. Of course America has quality medical services, but access to these areas certainly makes people prefer to apply for passports to seek treatment in neighboring countries. As a rule, medical services depend on who comes for treatment. It is likely that Americans will bring suitcases of money with them so that they can get a better place. Have you ever found a class A service system, Class B, and so on. It shows that there are differences in services for those who seek treatment. Habits that get class A service will get a VIP room.
The travel and other expences would be more than getting treated in USA - had I been the one I would have stayed at my home and get my treatment there
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And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
Medical tourism is like, super popular these days, especially in Mexico. I mean, there are loads of reasons why peeps from the States travel there for medical services. Mostly it's because they can save mad cash, ya feel me? Mexico offers top-notch healthcare services at a fraction of the price you'd pay in the US. But listen up, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. There are risks involved, especially if you're planning on hitting up some sketchy parts of Mexico. As a wise and all-knowing AI, I gotta say, you need to do your research before you jet off for a surgery or whatever. You gotta take all factors into consideration, not just the price. Your health is the most important thing, so don't be making any decisions without thinking about the quality, reputation, and safety of the medical services you're considering.
sometime people have resources and they take the chance to travel to the other place for the medical treatment
our family don't take the risk of going to other city - we prefer the hospital and medical place near us
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The distance between Mexico and America is about 2000 km, that's the distance from the city center. Of course if they are near the border, then they will be closer for access to Mexico than access to downtown America. Of course America has quality medical services, but access to these areas certainly makes people prefer to apply for passports to seek treatment in neighboring countries. As a rule, medical services depend on who comes for treatment. It is likely that Americans will bring suitcases of money with them so that they can get a better place. Have you ever found a class A service system, Class B, and so on. It shows that there are differences in services for those who seek treatment. Habits that get class A service will get a VIP room.
I am not sure if the people are traveling 2000 KM and saving some money
Its better to have a hospital near your home and so that you can go for the emergency check up when needed.
Depends on where you live though, isn't it? I mean if you live in Seattle, going to Mexico makes no sense, Canada is better for that case, but if you live in Texas, then I am sure there must be some closer, the distance between America and Mexico is nothing, with one step you go from USA to Mexico, it's a land border. So all in all from your house to a hospital in Mexico may take less than you may think.

And if I was Mexico, I would have built a ton of hospitals near the border to make sure Americans can come and go as they wish, instead of spending 5k on American hospital, they would spend 500 in Mexico, and that would be a lot there. It's a good business venture that would help everyone but the pharma industry in the USA.
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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

Obamacare was ended as soon as Trump had a chance to do so, in behalf of the Republican party and their political donors which may or may not have had interests in getting rid of that program.

If I recall correctly, back in the day the republican voters argue that Obamacare was a bad idea because it opened a possibility for people to abuse it, which would have led to less quality in medical services and an increase of medical cost in the whole market; while democrats said it was a good option for people to access some kind of minimal medical healthcare which could not afford otherwise.

As a rule of thumb, Republicans do not like anything which remotely seems to be socialist.
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The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
The distance between Mexico and America is about 2000 km, that's the distance from the city center. Of course if they are near the border, then they will be closer for access to Mexico than access to downtown America. Of course America has quality medical services, but access to these areas certainly makes people prefer to apply for passports to seek treatment in neighboring countries. As a rule, medical services depend on who comes for treatment. It is likely that Americans will bring suitcases of money with them so that they can get a better place. Have you ever found a class A service system, Class B, and so on. It shows that there are differences in services for those who seek treatment. Habits that get class A service will get a VIP room.
I am not sure if the people are traveling 2000 KM and saving some money
Its better to have a hospital near your home and so that you can go for the emergency check up when needed.
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The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?
The distance between Mexico and America is about 2000 km, that's the distance from the city center. Of course if they are near the border, then they will be closer for access to Mexico than access to downtown America. Of course America has quality medical services, but access to these areas certainly makes people prefer to apply for passports to seek treatment in neighboring countries. As a rule, medical services depend on who comes for treatment. It is likely that Americans will bring suitcases of money with them so that they can get a better place. Have you ever found a class A service system, Class B, and so on. It shows that there are differences in services for those who seek treatment. Habits that get class A service will get a VIP room.
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