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Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

Although I am not so conversant with the American Healthcare system, I can however remember that during Barak Obama's administration, he introduced the Obamacare. Whatever happened with it? Well, it is obvious that there are reasons why Americans would want to go to Mexico for healthcare treatment. Many roadblocks to quality, accessibility, or affordability of medical services especially among minority populations. You would almost go bankrupt to have a surgery or any other medical procedures.

But people are ready to spend money on travel but they are not ready to pay to the local hospital
When you can go quickly for the check up anytime
but everyone has their own choices - we can't comment on it

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Medical Tourism isn't new, in the field of dentistry for instance, people often visit third-world countries like the Philippines to get cheaper and stronger dental implants that lasts as long, if not longer, than a typical dental implant in the US. Just funny how their previous president is so indignant with building a tall-ass wall so no Mexicans can cross the border and illegally import themselves to US, and then we have Americans right here who may or may not have deported themselves illegally just so they can pay reasonably priced medical bills. Makes me wonder too, what the fuck happened to Obamacare right there? I saw a post back then featuring a surgery bill only amounting to 400 bucks, with "thanks to Obamacare" captions, why was it abolished?

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Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

Although I am not so conversant with the American Healthcare system, I can however remember that during Barak Obama's administration, he introduced the Obamacare. Whatever happened with it? Well, it is obvious that there are reasons why Americans would want to go to Mexico for healthcare treatment. Many roadblocks to quality, accessibility, or affordability of medical services especially among minority populations. You would almost go bankrupt to have a surgery or any other medical procedures.

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Quote from: disconnectme on April 08, 2023, 03:39:52 PM

This is the result of capitalism, Healthcare in America is expensive and if you don't have good healthcare insurance that covers your case you will need to pay for it through your nose. It is not only Mexico that Americans go to, there was a time I was told some Americans went to Cuba for treatment because their healthcare system there is affordable. The thing is that you can't compare the quality in Mexico with that of America, also there are some countries like Canada where you will need to be in the queue to get attended to see the doctor, so don't just look at it from one angle alone

Health care is expensive everywhere. Be it America or Russia or Mexico or Canada.
Mostly people work there - and save their money and get the things done when the go back to their native countries - mostly Asian does this too. They dont get hair cut but they do when they come back to their country

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This is the result of capitalism, Healthcare in America is expensive and if you don't have good healthcare insurance that covers your case you will need to pay for it through your nose. It is not only Mexico that Americans go to, there was a time I was told some Americans went to Cuba for treatment because their healthcare system there is affordable. The thing is that you can't compare the quality in Mexico with that of America, also there are some countries like Canada where you will need to be in the queue to get attended to see the doctor, so don't just look at it from one angle alone

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Quote from: og kush420 on April 08, 2023, 02:20:35 PM

many people go to south Korea too for cosmetic surgery

Yeah, I know people have their lives to lead when it comes to stuff like that. It's their choice and the consequences should also solely be theirs. Besides moral grounds, I think people shouldn't be getting under the knife if it isn't to balance up or correct medical conditions. I don't have any pity on those who go for cosmetic surgeries and don't make it out alive. The aesthetic is needless.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 27, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

On a lighter note, it isn't for nothing that we've the Red Cross symbol on the Switzerland flag. The reason is clear.

Clear? Not for me, care to elaborate?
One is 700 years old and one is not even 200, and it's not in the order you think it is.

Quote from: og kush420 on April 01, 2023, 06:57:02 PM

Good piece of info shared - I went to read why Switzerland flag has red cross symbol on it, thanks for the share.

The Red Cross simply got this symbol because it was established in Geneva at the initiative of Swiss citizens so they simply used the flag of the country where they did it. The Turkish flag, for example, has the same relation with the Red Crescent and as you can see in that table there is no trace of it in the top 20 countries, Israel uses also a different design based on their own flag.
Just like the guy above you've got it backward.

Quote from: Iroh on March 26, 2023, 06:51:58 PM

A short summary on what went down.
1. Four Americans crossed the border and went into Mexico for a medical procedure(not sure all of them needed the procedure)

One thing about this, it was a cosmetic medical procedure:

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The tummy-tuck surgery sought by McGee generally aims to remove excess skin from the abdomen and tighten the muscles in that part of the body.

Dental and cosmetic surgeries are the top reasons for these trips, so it's not like people go there only for life-threatening procedures and more for ones that are not that needed. One article claimed that every 1/20 is a breast augmentation procedure, so this would paint a completely different picture.

many people go to south Korea too for cosmetic surgery
I was watching a documentary - and it is funny that people go with their original face and come back with a different face. There is so much trouble at immigration when the face is scanned

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 27, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

On a lighter note, it isn't for nothing that we've the Red Cross symbol on the Switzerland flag. The reason is clear.

Clear? Not for me, care to elaborate?
One is 700 years old and one is not even 200, and it's not in the order you think it is.

Quote from: og kush420 on April 01, 2023, 06:57:02 PM

Good piece of info shared - I went to read why Switzerland flag has red cross symbol on it, thanks for the share.

The Red Cross simply got this symbol because it was established in Geneva at the initiative of Swiss citizens so they simply used the flag of the country where they did it. The Turkish flag, for example, has the same relation with the Red Crescent and as you can see in that table there is no trace of it in the top 20 countries, Israel uses also a different design based on their own flag.
Just like the guy above you've got it backward.

Quote from: Iroh on March 26, 2023, 06:51:58 PM

A short summary on what went down.
1. Four Americans crossed the border and went into Mexico for a medical procedure(not sure all of them needed the procedure)

One thing about this, it was a cosmetic medical procedure:

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The tummy-tuck surgery sought by McGee generally aims to remove excess skin from the abdomen and tighten the muscles in that part of the body.

Dental and cosmetic surgeries are the top reasons for these trips, so it's not like people go there only for life-threatening procedures and more for ones that are not that needed. One article claimed that every 1/20 is a breast augmentation procedure, so this would paint a completely different picture.

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Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

America is a large country, if you find people who go to Mexico for treatment, of course we also need to know the location where these residents live. If they live at the border of course it is better to go to Mexico for treatment to reduce costs even if they have to pay passport and visa fees. This is not a quality problem, but it is very influential on the costs they have to spend. Sometimes high quality also cannot reach the ability of the community in general.

That is correct - if the treatment is big and you can save some bucks while having lodging and food there then its worth doing it
Otherwise one can have treatment in the home town and pay a little extra.

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Quote from: soramon on March 27, 2023, 08:52:18 AM

The cost of health care USA is high some people can afford it. Im not american but i watch news and read some article how much the cost of health care there. It make sense why people go traveling to other country for cheaper medical treatment.

and there is no harm in doing so, people find the places where they can get good treatment and on the other side in less budget.
I would also do the same for so many reasons.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on March 27, 2023, 10:11:53 AM

Quote from: hugeblack on March 08, 2023, 07:08:59 AM

On the top 24 on that list, neither Mexico nor the US made it in there. It shows the dip in the health sector of both countries. Now I know why those seeking medical help outside my country don't head to the US. Instead they head to either the UK or Germany.

On a lighter note, it isn't for nothing that we've the Red Cross symbol on the Switzerland flag. The reason is clear.

Good piece of info shared - I went to read why Switzerland flag has red cross symbol on it, thanks for the share.
edit - but there are different reason for the cross - which one it the right one? it is a tribute to Henry Dunant, the Swiss founder of the International Committee of the Red Cross?

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Quote from: hugeblack on March 08, 2023, 07:08:59 AM

On the top 24 on that list, neither Mexico nor the US made it in there. It shows the dip in the health sector of both countries. Now I know why those seeking medical help outside my country don't head to the US. Instead they head to either the UK or Germany.

On a lighter note, it isn't for nothing that we've the Red Cross symbol on the Switzerland flag. The reason is clear.

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The cost of health care USA is high some people can afford it. Im not american but i watch news and read some article how much the cost of health care there. It make sense why people go traveling to other country for cheaper medical treatment.

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Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

what is the main attraction of these Americans is the low price and fairly good quality.
when it comes to cheap costs, many people are willing to travel far to pick up these cheap prices. not only in the world of health, but in many cases low prices are the goal, especially for the lower class.

maybe also because of the travel distance that can still be reached using land vehicles, which makes many US citizens come to Mexico for treatment even though they have to travel without permission.

because I'm sure, surely everyone also, if asked about health, must be number one. because the health of the body is indeed second to none in the pleasures given by the almighty God. so surely everyone will continue to struggle to maintain their own health even though they have to seek treatment at hospitals in different countries, different islands, different continents, and even desperate to break into other countries without permission (but don't imitate this).

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The medical expenses vary a lot between the two countries. The same medical treatment provided at $10000 can be availed at $1000 on Mexico. This is a big difference, and in particular I've heard about Dental treatments were very expensive in America. With the ongoing economic issues things could've gone even worse. Rich might not be the sufferer, mostly the middle class people who are at the level of moving to next level growth suffers with these kind of expnse.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 26, 2023, 03:52:02 AM

By the way OP, I don't follow the news and thus don't know anything about what happened. Perhaps linking to a source to the incident you're referencing would help ignoramusses like me (derp) understand things better without having to google-ize it.

A short summary on what went down.
1. Four Americans crossed the border and went into Mexico for a medical procedure(not sure all of them needed the procedure)
2. They were shot at and later kidnapped
3. Unfortunately, two died.
4. The Cartel, knowing the shit storm they’re about to come under quickly condemned and disowned the actions of the perps, forwarded an apology letter along with the guys who were responsible.

Here’s a link to an article.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gulf-cartel-apologizes-americans-are-kidnapped-killed-mexico-rcna74242

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Quote from: teosanru on March 26, 2023, 01:37:15 PM

Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

You really thought US was good at providing cheap medical services? US have one of the most expensive medical structure. So expensive that most of the Americans won't be able to use it without insurance. I have seen so many people going to Asian countries for better healthcare. India infact has lot of healthcare tourism. So it's pretty normal for them to go to Mexico for such things.

True, not just medical services, but Asia seems to attract a lot of Americans who just want to retire and have their money valued so much in such countries. As for those who travel to Mexico for medical procedures, yes, they are cheap but there is also risk as well just like the kidnappings and killings of the American. You can say that it's normal because this has been exposed now, but then again, as I have said, they have to be very careful when they venture to a country such as Mexico and they need to weigh the pros and cons. There's even one, who supposedly who went to go, but back out in the last minutes. So she is very lucky, otherwise she could be one of those victims that unfortunately die.

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Quote from: hugeblack on March 08, 2023, 07:08:59 AM

I believe that bearing costs is the reason why a person prefers one country over another. Good medical care will not be free, and then you may not be able to afford it, especially for individuals in the middle and poor classes. There are also consequences after the operation, such as care in the first months, medicines and other costs.

Also, some countries are better in certain disciplines, this chart may give you better information, although I am surprised at the reason for choosing Mexico, perhaps because of the flight costs)

How correct is this chart?
Will it be possible that a country like US will not appear on this list? Is the caption actually what it is?
USA is the highest spender of the GDP to ammunition and USA also tale good care of the man force in the army, and they have good insurance system. So I doubt they will not allocate something much more than 6% of GDP to health care.
Well the information in the media is not always correct, some are sensored, others mutilated in order to give to the audience what they feel the audience should know.

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Quote from: og kush420 on March 25, 2023, 04:33:20 AM

Quote from: el kaka22 on March 21, 2023, 02:09:10 PM

They go to Canada as well if they are closer to that border, basically they can travel to Europe, get the medication they need or surgery they need, and go back to USA and they would still be fine. That is the end result of being the nation that spends the most money on healthcare and still being worse than almost anyone else in the world.

You can claim whatever you want for the reason, but the reason is that politicians do not want to fix it since it's a too big of a trouble to tackle. There are few like Bernie, but people never vote for those people so it ended up being something terrible for them like this, hence they will keep traveling for many more decades until they finally elect someone who will fix it.

People do things which is beneficial to them. And there is no harm in doing that - saving some extra buck
There are many local who does this in our country too.
They don't get their haircut abroad. They get their dental treatment when they come back for vacation.

This happens everywhere. You will always find people who will take such steps to get the treatments that serve them the best and that also don't become a burden on them due to the affordability. If someone can afford to do so, they go to a different country, and if they can't, they would at least go to a different city with better facilities and treatments for illnesses, etc.

Private hospitals and medical facilities charge a hell of a lot of money while government ones don't provide the best treatments or facilities to the patients, so they probably have no other option but to look for other places where they can get things done at lower prices.

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Quote from: Die_empty on March 08, 2023, 04:40:49 AM

The recent kidnapping of four Americans exposed me to the medical tourism going on in America. I have always thought that the US was a perfect country has very functional health, economic, and political systems. I thought all Americans have access to cheap and quality medical services until I read that over one million Americans go on medical tourism in Mexico yearly.

And the reason why some of them choose Mexico was because of its quality and low cost. These medical tourists are aware that it is risky to do to some parts of Mexico, but they still go there because they want to cut costs.
Is there any other reason why Americans go to Mexico for medical?

You really thought US was good at providing cheap medical services? US have one of the most expensive medical structure. So expensive that most of the Americans won't be able to use it without insurance. I have seen so many people going to Asian countries for better healthcare. India infact has lot of healthcare tourism. So it's pretty normal for them to go to Mexico for such things.

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