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legendary
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maybe it just the level of spam got to me, add something new and constructive instead of being repetitive and boring..... i've seen MSN messenger spam bots more original than your last months work
sr. member
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good ponzi scheme and did work. bastards!

Whatever happened, AM wasnt a ponzi. They already paid out ~6x more to investors than they collected from them. Thats by definition completely impossible for a ponzi and a very rare, if not unique occurrence in the whole of bitcoin history. Try naming two other companies that even paid out 100% of their IPO in divs, let alone ~600%.

Now its possible its a legit operation that turned in to a scam, but many things dont make much sense to me if that were the case. To name just one, AM could have collected a shitload more money by pretending to have finished BE3000 which everyone was expecting, and collecting sales and cloudmining sales based on that.

Reasoning is sound, but is also predicated on you having enough info, which, in Bitcoinland, is never the case.
Relatively intelligent folks make much better victims than average Joes. Because, unlike average Joe (who doesn't think much of himself so relies on horse sense), the "smarter" marks assume they would out-think/reason/smart the scammers.  Most scams actually build on that misconception.

Outsmarting almost never works--scammers don't even need to be clever to ply their trade--there are cookbooks.

As I said tho, this probably didn't start out as a scam.  But it was structured in a way making it almost certain to end up as one.
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I don't accept failure so easily! The only guys here with the balls to fight and don't give up is Airwolf and those who help him. That's why i will join them and hunt this Friedcat so he can be really fried in prison like this:

We'll talk again when this happened 5 times.
(Yes, I've learned the hard way.)
And I never got money back.

Do you really think somebody can accomplish anything in CHINA? No one can be so naive.

Bitcoins are lost forever. No chargeback. No refunds. No insurance. Accept it and live on.


Such attitude is destined to lose.
hero member
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Probably they did not have bad intentions however at some stage they decided to downplay the whole situation. What is really worrying is that basically there is no proper communication on the part of asicminer.
legendary
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+1

good ponzi scheme and did work. bastards!

Whatever happened, AM wasnt a ponzi. They already paid out ~6x more to investors than they collected from them. Thats by definition completely impossible for a ponzi and a very rare, if not unique occurrence in the whole of bitcoin history. Try naming two other companies that even paid out 100% of their IPO in divs, let alone ~600%.

Now its possible its a legit operation that turned in to a scam, but many things dont make much sense to me if that were the case. To name just one, AM could have collected a shitload more money by pretending to have finished BE3000 which everyone was expecting, and collecting sales and cloudmining sales based on that.
sr. member
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... No one can be so naive.
...

You must be new here.
sr. member
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I don't accept failure so easily! The only guys here with the balls to fight and don't give up is Airwolf and those who help him. That's why i will join them and hunt this Friedcat so he can be really fried in prison like this:

We'll talk again when this happened 5 times.
(Yes, I've learned the hard way.)
And I never got money back.

Do you really think somebody can accomplish anything in CHINA? No one can be so naive.

Bitcoins are lost forever. No chargeback. No refunds. No insurance. Accept it and live on.
newbie
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Merit: 0
I don't accept failure so easily! The only guys here with the balls to fight and don't give up is Airwolf and those who help him. That's why i will join them and hunt this Friedcat so he can be really fried in prison like this:

http://www.coindesk.com/police-arrest-mycoin-bitcoin-exchange

 
Does not matter anymore what exactly happened. The money is gone. Again.
That's enough with the scams. I never again invest in bitcoins.
newbie
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Does not matter anymore what exactly happened. The money is gone. Again.
That's enough with the scams. I never again invest in bitcoins.

And we are no closer to finding any REAL info than yesterday.
sr. member
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Does not matter anymore what exactly happened. The money is gone. Again.
That's enough with the scams. I never again invest in bitcoins.
legendary
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Guys, don't forget that when FC came out with the first ASICs (the first to mine bitcoin at all) his company quickly became worth over $100 million.  Now unless he lost it all (which in this world, isn't unheard of) it doesn't make sense that he would try to run off with $1mil worth of coin.

Totally agree... something is wrong here...

And therefore, it would be normal to contect his contractual partners. Hm, hold on: They don't know him, and we don't know who they are...
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Guys, don't forget that when FC came out with the first ASICs (the first to mine bitcoin at all) his company quickly became worth over $100 million.  Now unless he lost it all (which in this world, isn't unheard of) it doesn't make sense that he would try to run off with $1mil worth of coin.

Totally agree... something is wrong here...

I think there were better times for running away with a lot more money, but this might not have been planned, for some reason he might had to get away now...
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legendary
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Guys, don't forget that when FC came out with the first ASICs (the first to mine bitcoin at all) his company quickly became worth over $100 million.  Now unless he lost it all (which in this world, isn't unheard of) it doesn't make sense that he would try to run off with $1mil worth of coin.

Totally agree... something is wrong here...
full member
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Guys, don't forget that when FC came out with the first ASICs (the first to mine bitcoin at all) his company quickly became worth over $100 million.  Now unless he lost it all (which in this world, isn't unheard of) it doesn't make sense that he would try to run off with $1mil worth of coin.
sr. member
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wouldn't surprise me if this person(s) involved with pulling something similar using fiat money. (stocks, bonds, etc.)

Possible, when he grows up.
This thing, otoh, is no more artful than Labcoin, NeoBee, or any other Bitcoin "investment" where rubes trip over themselves & each other in a rush to send their [sorta] anon coin to any Anon promising to make them rich.  This likely didn't even start out as a scam, but once the the marks' general derpiness became apparent, it would have taken a saint to resist turning this hilarity into one.

So my rating: C+

Points off for
 1. poor BTC/time invested ratio
 2. shit story arc, and
 3. dragging, predictable & utterly unsatisfying finale <==tho grantedly, all BTC securities suffer from this, so perhaps a lacking inherent to BTC genre.
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I agree

and the best chance to catch them is on their next endeavour.

it is most likely they will do it again,  problem is figuring out when where and when....
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Name:  friedcat
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Date Registered:  January 16, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
Last Active:  January 26, 2015, 03:46:31 AM
 

3 years almost exactly to the day. What are the odds of that?

A good scam is well thought out in advance, with specific milestones and a defined end date.

This friedcat person (or persons) are good,  very good.

You guys here are the small fry of it,  there must people on the ground there jumping off buildings now.....

scammers are amateurs job but this seem to be a professional job. Well planned and thought out.
not so surprising when you consider bitcoin's popularity and volatility.

wouldn't surprise me if this person(s) involved with pulling something similar using fiat money. (stocks, bonds, etc.)

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Name:  friedcat
Posts:  848
Activity: 848
Position:  Donator
Date Registered:  January 16, 2012, 03:50:08 AM
Last Active:  January 26, 2015, 03:46:31 AM
 

3 years almost exactly to the day. What are the odds of that?

A good scam is well thought out in advance, with specific milestones and a defined end date.

This friedcat person (or persons) are good,  very good.

You guys here are the small fry of it,  there must people on the ground there jumping off buildings now.....
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Havelock robbed me 170BTC
For the guys who have their shares like me at amhash directly:

They're paying out but you're not able to transfer to your wallet status: frozen  Undecided

this is the status for a transaction started a week ago


Thank-you for confirming that your are not able to withdraw your BTC from Amhash website.

Amhash team can we have an update!!

Pictures of the EMPTY office of AMHASH in China here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-company-moved-from-the-office-to-someplace-and-friedcat-lost-977777

"Gentlemen, we have been had..."
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