AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract - page 40.

NotLambchop

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Quote from: finbad on March 06, 2015, 10:29:54 AM

I like how they paid out for 2 months, lots to time to move out of offices, set up new bank accounts (offshore ofcourse), liquidate hard assets, etc etc.

the shutdown for 2 weeks during Chinese holydays was a nice touch too. That way they did'nt not have to pay anything and gain 2 weeks.

Very professional.

Wouldn't have worked with IRL money tho. But good 'nuf for Bitcoin.

Bitcoin: Like scamming with training wheels.^TM

FastByte33

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Quote from: finbad on March 06, 2015, 10:29:54 AM

I like how they paid out for 2 months, lots to time to move out of offices, set up new bank accounts (offshore ofcourse), liquidate hard assets, etc etc.

the shutdown for 2 weeks during Chinese holydays was a nice touch too. That way they did'nt not have to pay anything and gain 2 weeks.

Very professional.

+1

good ponzi scheme and did work. bastards!

finbad

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I like how they paid out for 2 months, lots to time to move out of offices, set up new bank accounts (offshore ofcourse), liquidate hard assets, etc etc.

the shutdown for 2 weeks during Chinese holydays was a nice touch too. That way they did'nt not have to pay anything and gain 2 weeks.

Very professional.

mr_e

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Quote from: 0rphane on March 06, 2015, 10:07:56 AM

For the guys who have their shares like me at amhash directly:

They're paying out but you're not able to transfer to your wallet status: frozen Undecided

this is the status for a transaction started a week ago

Thank-you for confirming that your are not able to withdraw your BTC from Amhash website.

Amhash team can we have an update!!

Cassandra_PR

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Quote from: l3sny on March 06, 2015, 10:08:47 AM

Havelock is not a mark for any recovery. This will just make the things more complicated unnecessarily. This is my private opinion. Apart from that I do not see them as much involved in it. What for drag them into this? In what way can we benefit?

Why insist on royal plural? That's like, so affected, man. Just say "him," like a normal human being.
Re. "recovery": Hahahahaha

Quote from: Cassandra_PR on January 13, 2015, 09:16:30 AM

Quote from: Cassandra_PR on December 08, 2014, 05:40:58 PM

But would you listen?

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/043/disaster-girl.jpg

It's like a curse I tell you Angry

~Cassandra

l3sny

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Havelock is not a mark for any recovery. This will just make the things more complicated unnecessarily. This is my private opinion. Apart from that I do not see them as much involved in it. What for drag them into this? In what way can we benefit?

0rphane

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For the guys who have their shares like me at amhash directly:

They're paying out but you're not able to transfer to your wallet status: frozen Undecided

this is the status for a transaction started a week ago

http://imgshare.org/upload/small/2015/03/06/54f9cc040537e.png
http://imgshare.org/upload/small/2015/03/06/54f9cdc0edb55.png

AirWolf

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Havelock robbed me 170BTC

Some more real data, thanks to those supporting, as they do it for free, i share it for free:

This is Rock Xie, also know 'Xie Jian' (谢坚) born 9/29/1983 from Hunan Zhuzhou Liling.
according to sources below, he is back at Liling.
one of his family member name seems to be 'Shi Xie'
last known work place is 'Liling Huayi Electronics Technology Co., Ltd.'
last known contact number: +86-0733-3259123, +96-0733-3256123, +15115304800

The email [email protected] is related to these domains :

1. 7hash.com
2. amhash.com
3. asicminershop.com
4. bitebika.com
5. bitell.com
6. btotc.com
7. chuagnshi.com
8. cryptominingchina.com
9. foks.cn
10. fowor.com
11. miepay.com
12. monaobian.com
13. rock-miner.com
14. rockhash.com
15. rockkin.com
16. shoujihuanping.com
17. weimud.com
18. xuanpai.com
19. youkuhezi.com

flame1012

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Quote from: AirWolf on March 06, 2015, 09:20:12 AM

HAVELOCK: SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMBOLDEN YOUR REPUTATION

DO THIS AN ACHIEVE A STATURE AS AN HONORABLE AND HONEST PLAYER IN THE BITCOIN COMMUNITY.

And, being so few left in the Bitocin world, you have more to gain than to lose.

So true.

AirWolf

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Havelock robbed me 170BTC

Havelock HAS RESPONSIBILITY in this for the simple fact that they sold us an scam, in good faith nor not.

So if you go to a convenience store and buy a can of beer, you give your money to the teller, then walking out to your car you open the can and the beer is putrid, do you comeback to the store and ask for your money back or go to the Heineken factory and ask them for a refund?

I gave my money to Havelock, Havelock sold me a putrid beer, i think that in good faith they made the same mistake than everybody else: To believe in the word of some Chinese schoolboys.

Now, want it or not Havelock is deep into this, a pity because i see that they strive for a good reputation.

HAVELOCK: SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMBOLDEN YOUR REPUTATION, Pay what was given to you accordingly to contract terms:

Risk control

1. Before IPO closes, ASICMiner has the right to buy back at the price of IPO price * 100.5%.

2. During the first 45 days after IPO closes, ASICMiner has the right to buy back at the price of (IPO price - total payouts) * 120%. The notification period is 3 days.

3. If the delay of payment happens, all unpaid payments will be accounted separately on daily basis and increase by 0.02% per day(flat rate based on the initial unpaid payment amount, no compound rate) after three days.

DO THIS AND ACHIEVE A STATURE AS AN HONORABLE AND HONEST PLAYER IN THE BITCOIN COMMUNITY.

And, being so few left in the Bitocin world, you have more to gain than to lose.

MrTeal

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Quote from: primeminer on March 06, 2015, 03:27:33 AM

It is a long shot but it so in time line that just can not ignore this signed msg from Am wallet on 9th of Feb:

18d006fe9bfe7eb8d04c149c6b897df8b6bea5cbb91120bf613d624b4e7e539d2015-02-09 01:53:47
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y
3KgtbGgaX2ngstNpvyv7LwpHSweVeqGbpM $ 1,599,360.00
3KBUuGko4H5ke7EVsq9B7PLK1c5Askdd7y $ 367,318.62
$ -1,599,360.03
Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.

Just a day before FC gets missing !!!!

You're copying that wrong. The message is above the transaction, not below it. This is the actual transaction.
https://blockchain.info/tx/4429090838f3c3585a0496a6ee427e4ad18ace787d58440d7ebd2b190a82e06b
That 1HELPME address (and the hundreds like it) just spam out dust to high value wallets hoping someone will send them some coin.

NotLambchop

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Quote from: Mabsark on March 06, 2015, 08:06:26 AM

...
According to Havelock, they found out the same time as everybody else:
...

Impromptu site upgrade/going down for two weeks: coincidence Cool

flame1012

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Quote from: Mabsark on March 06, 2015, 08:06:26 AM

Quote from: primeminer on March 06, 2015, 07:19:41 AM

Quote from: ajw7989 on March 06, 2015, 06:12:34 AM

I would never blame havelock for this. They do their best to communicate with us and verify companies to prevent scams. But they could not have known what am hash would do. Most of us felt am hash was reliable due to who backed them.

oh cmon they new from December that miners been stolen and kept it secret they are not as good as you picture it

According to Havelock, they found out the same time as everybody else:

Quote from: havelock on March 05, 2015, 12:25:39 PM

Last Month the AMHASH1 Fund Managers has posted this updated:

"February 8th, 2015 - Announcement of The Spring Festival Holiday

Dear Customers,

We will pause the transaction and dividends of AMHash from 10th February to 28th February for The Spring Festival Holiday coming.And we will restart all those things in the beginning of March.

AMHash Team"

During the period when our site was down, we were informed at the same time that everyone else was informed through this very thread that the AMHASH team were not able to reach anyone at ASICMIner which operates the mining farm for the AMHASH mining operation. At this time we have suspended trading on the AMHASH Fund until further information is provided to us.

We would like to remind everyone that the AMHASH operation is a joint venture between RockMiner and ASICMiner.

Thank you,

Havelock

This excuse is worse than the misdemeanor.

NotLambchop

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Quote from: l3sny on March 06, 2015, 02:36:39 AM

I do not see any benefits in dragging havelock into this. First it is different jurisdiction than the main culprits.

Jurisdictions spread across the globe you say?
~~Suckers~~ Investors have trivial sums at stake, and can't tell the difference between a seersucker and a legal suit?

Mabsark

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Quote from: primeminer on March 06, 2015, 07:19:41 AM

Quote from: ajw7989 on March 06, 2015, 06:12:34 AM

I would never blame havelock for this. They do their best to communicate with us and verify companies to prevent scams. But they could not have known what am hash would do. Most of us felt am hash was reliable due to who backed them.

oh cmon they new from December that miners been stolen and kept it secret they are not as good as you picture it

According to Havelock, they found out the same time as everybody else:

Quote from: havelock on March 05, 2015, 12:25:39 PM

Last Month the AMHASH1 Fund Managers has posted this updated:

"February 8th, 2015 - Announcement of The Spring Festival Holiday

Dear Customers,

We will pause the transaction and dividends of AMHash from 10th February to 28th February for The Spring Festival Holiday coming.And we will restart all those things in the beginning of March.

AMHash Team"

During the period when our site was down, we were informed at the same time that everyone else was informed through this very thread that the AMHASH team were not able to reach anyone at ASICMIner which operates the mining farm for the AMHASH mining operation. At this time we have suspended trading on the AMHASH Fund until further information is provided to us.

We would like to remind everyone that the AMHASH operation is a joint venture between RockMiner and ASICMiner.

Thank you,

Havelock

RealMalatesta

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Quote from: Puppet on March 06, 2015, 07:23:54 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 06, 2015, 06:24:01 AM

Show my HOW they verify companies.

Havelock isnt a regulated exchange, they do not comply with security laws that exist in almost every country. Laws designed to prevent these kinds of things from happening, but laws which also make it all but impossible for small crypto startups to be listed on an exchange and for anonymous unsophisticated investors like yourself, to invest in them.

If you are not happy with that, you shouldnt have used havelock. I dont think they claim to perform a thorough due diligence thats even remotely comparable to a, say, NYSE IPO. And whatever due diligence they may do or you might reasonably expect them to do, would have cleared asicminer

Ive never recommended anyone to use HL for the above and countless other reasons, but I also dont think they are to be blamed for this fiasco.

What are you talking about? Better read what I wrote before writing BS.

Puppet

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 06, 2015, 06:24:01 AM

Show my HOW they verify companies.

Havelock isnt a regulated exchange, they do not comply with security laws that exist in almost every country. Laws designed to prevent these kinds of things from happening, but laws which also make it all but impossible for small crypto startups to be listed on an exchange and for anonymous unsophisticated investors like yourself, to invest in them.

If you are not happy with that, you shouldnt have used havelock. I dont think they claim to perform a thorough due diligence thats even remotely comparable to a, say, NYSE IPO. And whatever due diligence they may do or you might reasonably expect them to do, would have cleared asicminer

Ive never recommended anyone to use HL for the above and countless other reasons, but I also dont think they are to be blamed for this fiasco.

primeminer

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Quote from: ajw7989 on March 06, 2015, 06:12:34 AM

I would never blame havelock for this. They do their best to communicate with us and verify companies to prevent scams. But they could not have known what am hash would do. Most of us felt am hash was reliable due to who backed them.

oh cmon they new from December that miners been stolen and kept it secret they are not as good as you picture it

flame1012

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This event has shown how lightly Havelock and the other companies handles their businesses.
This is probably because the crypto world provides a more anonymous structure which allows you to run when you chose to.

No government, no legislation, no sanctions.
The only base of trust is goodwill here.

RealMalatesta

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Quote from: runam0k on March 06, 2015, 06:20:20 AM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on March 06, 2015, 05:50:01 AM

It was a posting by TAT Investments. "Seems" comes from me for the transfer was never properly documented.

Probably entirely wrong, but I always assumed Havelock was TAT Investments, or at least a joint venture between TAT and others.

I wouldn't exclude this. TAT was in the gaming business. So is Havelock (just talk to the Casino's guys in Panama...).

Still, this doesn't wholly explain the links to AM / FC.

So for understanding what happened to FC, I believe every single aspect has to be looked at. And one of the main aspects is Havelock and the gaming industry.

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