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Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2022, 05:14:20 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 27, 2022, 04:54:58 AM

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That will never happen. If a person decided to stop gambling because he realized that he already has a gambling addiction and it is progressing he will stay away from gambling and not play even with fake money because such a game is not able to resist addiction and most likely even aggravates the already deplorable situation.

I know a guy who lost a lot of money because of his gambling addiction and now he completely ignores it without even playing cards with his friends.

Will it be the same as a sober guy or the one who stopped smoking?
Because gambling will always be there, unlike for someone who stopped smoking cigarettes, after a year or 2 they don't like the smell of that smoke anymore, it makes them puke. I know from experience.
But gambling is different, when you watch sports it can trigger the desire to bet for your favorite team and most pay-per-view now shows advertisements for gambling like Draft Kings in NBA. Then, even the commentators are talking about how much the odds are for over and under total score.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 27, 2022, 05:14:20 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 27, 2022, 04:54:58 AM

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That will never happen. If a person decided to stop gambling because he realized that he already has a gambling addiction and it is progressing he will stay away from gambling and not play even with fake money because such a game is not able to resist addiction and most likely even aggravates the already deplorable situation.

I know a guy who lost a lot of money because of his gambling addiction and now he completely ignores it without even playing cards with his friends.

Decides or understands that gambling addiction is progressing? I dont believe that gambling addiction can be stopped just by loosing interest to gambling. Persons habits or objects of interest might, new hobbies appear - that can help. But I cant believe that person got addicted to gambling and suddenly become not addicted. Either he was never addicted at all, but just lost a huge amount of money, either he will break and get back.

I think alternative money will not help to stop addiction. It does not matter what gambler uses to place bets, because he seeks emotions from risking and winning with something he could lost and has value.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 27, 2022, 04:54:58 AM

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That will never happen. If a person decided to stop gambling because he realized that he already has a gambling addiction and it is progressing he will stay away from gambling and not play even with fake money because such a game is not able to resist addiction and most likely even aggravates the already deplorable situation.

I know a guy who lost a lot of money because of his gambling addiction and now he completely ignores it without even playing cards with his friends.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on July 25, 2022, 04:22:36 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 28, 2022, 04:47:41 PM

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I don't know other people will feel about it, but when you win with the fake money I think or at least for me it makes wanna gamble with real money if a strategy I tried worked in that demo, so I think it could negatively affect a gambler, this is like people who try to quit smoking when they try vaping with no nicotine, a study showed that the majority of them stopped vaping and went back to smoking cigarettes again.

At least it can work for some people who really want to avoid gambling addiction so they continue to use fake money provided by the casino. If that person can manage his desire and emotion to gamble using real money, he will be fine. But we know those desires and emotions can get bigger easily as we lose control of ourselves after playing a few rounds. But if the gambler wants to reduce the money lost from gambling games, it is by not gambling too often and using his time to do other activities.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 27, 2022, 12:22:24 AM

Quote from: Rabi3 on July 25, 2022, 04:22:36 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 28, 2022, 04:47:41 PM

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I don't know other people will feel about it, but when you win with the fake money I think or at least for me it makes wanna gamble with real money if a strategy I tried worked in that demo, so I think it could negatively affect a gambler, this is like people who try to quit smoking when they try vaping with no nicotine, a study showed that the majority of them stopped vaping and went back to smoking cigarettes again.

This is quite possible, it is because of this the treatment for addictions not only includes staying away from whatever the person got addicted in the first place, but also to stay away from any activity or environment which could trigger them to fall into addiction again, and without a doubt gambling with play money falls into that umbrella, as even if they are not using real money they are still gambling in a way, which sooner or later will cause in those people the desire to use real money as well.

The desire or the lust inside that gambler will continue to flow and the sooner that he will get the chance to play with real money, he will be engaged and will be addicted more. Imagine if he can win using play money. He will try that into reality. I mean, they will try their best to make it happen, and the worse outcome is not just losing their money but to get more addicted to these activities.

Play money might be used as a pastime, but if you are into a moving or quitting for good, better to look for alternative activities that are not related to gambling.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on July 25, 2022, 04:22:36 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 28, 2022, 04:47:41 PM

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I don't know other people will feel about it, but when you win with the fake money I think or at least for me it makes wanna gamble with real money if a strategy I tried worked in that demo, so I think it could negatively affect a gambler, this is like people who try to quit smoking when they try vaping with no nicotine, a study showed that the majority of them stopped vaping and went back to smoking cigarettes again.

This is quite possible, it is because of this the treatment for addictions not only includes staying away from whatever the person got addicted in the first place, but also to stay away from any activity or environment which could trigger them to fall into addiction again, and without a doubt gambling with play money falls into that umbrella, as even if they are not using real money they are still gambling in a way, which sooner or later will cause in those people the desire to use real money as well.

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Quote from: michellee on July 26, 2022, 11:59:07 PM

If I don't want to bet with my money, I always use Fun Mode because the casino already provides this facility for us and we should also use it for our own good. I see the level of luck I have between using Fun Mode and Real Mode is not too far away and the results are likely to be almost the same. So I'm not motivated to continue using real money to gamble because I know I'm a person who easily deposits money into casinos to gamble and I want to avoid that Grin

Playing gambling can be fun and depends on how you can control yourself so you don't get caught up in gambling.

Playing in fun mode is the most boring thing to do inside the casino because only limited games offers this kind of feature while the majority of players preferred the table games and sportbook nowadays.

I will not waste my time on playing fun mode in the casino while there’s a lot of free gambling application that allows you to play all gambling games with other players using it without any limitation. In this way, you will not be tempted to gambling using money if you are away on the actual gambling site.

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Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2022, 02:02:23 AM

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2022, 02:59:42 PM

Requires big money or bankroll for you to make out big base bets which is common sense but you could also potentially hit big multipliers even with just a small bankroll but of course most of the time you would be ending up on failing because you cant really be that versatile when you are just simply having small bankroll unlike when you do have huge amounts which is common sense. Luck is always be the main factor whether you are playing strategically but that wont really be assuring win or profits in the end of the day.

What you say is true because no one can guarantee you will be able to win a lot of money, no matter how much money you use to gamble. In addition to losing money, you also have the potential to lose a lot of time, especially if you end up playing gambling all day long.

If you want to keep gambling, it's better to use an amount of money that you will not regret if the money is lost due to your loss but remember, the time you spend gambling can exceed what you have set. It's better to use the time you have for other things that can benefit you.

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

If I don't want to bet with my money, I always use Fun Mode because the casino already provides this facility for us and we should also use it for our own good. I see the level of luck I have between using Fun Mode and Real Mode is not too far away and the results are likely to be almost the same. So I'm not motivated to continue using real money to gamble because I know I'm a person who easily deposits money into casinos to gamble and I want to avoid that Grin

Playing gambling can be fun and depends on how you can control yourself so you don't get caught up in gambling.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on July 25, 2022, 04:22:36 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on June 28, 2022, 04:47:41 PM

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I don't know other people will feel about it, but when you win with the fake money I think or at least for me it makes wanna gamble with real money if a strategy I tried worked in that demo, so I think it could negatively affect a gambler, this is like people who try to quit smoking when they try vaping with no nicotine, a study showed that the majority of them stopped vaping and went back to smoking cigarettes again.

Yes, that is right! These apps doesn't work the way it is created because the gamblers who are looking to quit from these activities will just find themselves again in a situation where they don't want in the first place because of the hope that these apps created, the gamblers may think that maybe this time they won't be that unlucky anymore.

But, I think a determined gambler who really wanted to quit knows how to keep some safe distance in any instances that could connect them again to gambling activities.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 21, 2022, 02:41:24 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 21, 2022, 05:37:36 AM

In my opinion, playing with fake money in an app and playing in demo mode, again, basically with fake money, doesn't bring you the satisfaction most gamblers are looking for. It may bring you some bad feelings even. Like once I won with a really huge multiplier playing in demo mode , and I was sad about not playing with real money at the time.

Don't want to lose a lot of money on gambling? Make the smallest bets possible. You can spin it with just one cent on some slots. That's a better solution, imo.

I also agree that it does not bring satisfaction to a gambler that is goal is to earn profit from winning. Since only a real money can make this kind of gambler satisfied. But after thinking deeply, there are people who play gambling for entertainment regardless of the outcome of the bet. Meaning they are spending real money just to watch the reel move. So an alternative way of gambling with fun tokens can greatly help this kind of gambler to save money. As the other thread stated, People are not only gambling to win but they are buying entertainment so these people can just use these apps (stated on the OP) to save a lot of real money.

I am one of those people. I play for relaxation and entertainment, I don't want to be a "pro gambler", whatever that means, and yet I want to bet with real money, with small amounts but with real money still. Of course I tried the alternative: with fun money it's not that funny.

You should not try to earn money for living with gambling, but winning occasionally something around $10-$20 brings you a good mood, and you won't get that with fun tokens. Just like yesterday I won $100 betting only 10 cents, and it made my day. But I wouldn't be so glad if I was playing in demo mode at the time.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on June 28, 2022, 04:47:41 PM

What is your opinion on Fake money gambling apps, do you recognize the potential I think they have to assist in reducing the number of gamblers who loose real money?

I don't know other people will feel about it, but when you win with the fake money I think or at least for me it makes wanna gamble with real money if a strategy I tried worked in that demo, so I think it could negatively affect a gambler, this is like people who try to quit smoking when they try vaping with no nicotine, a study showed that the majority of them stopped vaping and went back to smoking cigarettes again.

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Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2022, 02:02:23 AM

Quote from: michellee on July 25, 2022, 01:52:20 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2022, 02:59:42 PM

Requires big money or bankroll for you to make out big base bets which is common sense but you could also potentially hit big multipliers even with just a small bankroll but of course most of the time you would be ending up on failing because you cant really be that versatile when you are just simply having small bankroll unlike when you do have huge amounts which is common sense. Luck is always be the main factor whether you are playing strategically but that wont really be assuring win or profits in the end of the day.

What you say is true because no one can guarantee you will be able to win a lot of money, no matter how much money you use to gamble. In addition to losing money, you also have the potential to lose a lot of time, especially if you end up playing gambling all day long.

If you want to keep gambling, it's better to use an amount of money that you will not regret if the money is lost due to your loss but remember, the time you spend gambling can exceed what you have set. It's better to use the time you have for other things that can benefit you.

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

Gambling wont be the best choice if you are looking for something in terms of leisure but since you dont really like on losing money then it would really be that common sense that you should avoid it at all cost but if you could really make out some spending or willing to lose amounts then it wont really be that to have some gambling time for the leisure you do seek off. When you are already that get too attached with gambling then it is
really high likely you would really get addicted to it and this where things starts to become salty and bitter where you are really making your life situation or condition putting up to worst.
If you dont like on ending up having some financial problems then better to avoid gambling and look for another alternative.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 25, 2022, 02:42:20 AM

Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2022, 02:02:23 AM

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

I think when gambling using a demo account in my opinion it is not too valuable because it will only be a waste of time, a demo account should only be used for learning and actually gambling places will never be able to guarantee a profit because when gambling there will be potential losses. therefore if as a gambler it is better to keep gambling with small values in the hope of getting big profits.

Valid point. For those people who want to gamble and earn at the same time, using demo account or fake money in gambling certainly don't makes any sense. It will just be a waste of time and effort for them because they are after the gain from it. And if they won't use real money, there are definitely no returns for them. Hence, opting for using real money is a better option if they really want to risk. Meanwhile, if someone is just a newbie and just wants to check and learn how gambling works, then demo account or fake money might be a good option.

Fake money and demo accounts are good for newbies for them to practice without losing anything. They will learn the do's and don'ts of gambling without sacrificing anything yet. After learning the basics, they can eventually start betting with real account using real money with small bets for starters to actually practice what they have learned. And of course, if their goal is to really earn, they'll have to transition eventually. They can't play using fake money and demo accounts and expect a profit afterwards. After all, gambling is also taking a risk. You win some, you lose some. High risk, high reward.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 25, 2022, 02:42:20 AM

Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2022, 02:02:23 AM

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

I think when gambling using a demo account in my opinion it is not too valuable because it will only be a waste of time, a demo account should only be used for learning and actually gambling places will never be able to guarantee a profit because when gambling there will be potential losses. therefore if as a gambler it is better to keep gambling with small values in the hope of getting big profits.

The fake money is like faking a smile.
It does not bring in real happiness. The real happiness comes in with real money and real money comes in with effort. Once you get the money save it and invest it.

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Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2022, 02:02:23 AM

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

I think when gambling using a demo account in my opinion it is not too valuable because it will only be a waste of time, a demo account should only be used for learning and actually gambling places will never be able to guarantee a profit because when gambling there will be potential losses. therefore if as a gambler it is better to keep gambling with small values in the hope of getting big profits.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2022, 03:46:18 PM

I once thought that fun tokens or gambling with fake money do not have any entertainment effect but I was wrong. I used not to bet with fake money in any casino for the thought that it woudn't give me any entertainment but when I tried it, I found that it can be an alternative to some extent. It also saves me a lot of money trying unknown casino slot games. With that, I can learn the mechanics of slots without spending or losing a single penny. It somehow entertain me because I got to see how the slots work and enjoyed the visual effect of the game.

Somehow "tutorial-like". It is enjoyable no doubt about that, but this is only for the first month or less that you have been using the application. After that, you will be looking for more, or in other cases, boredom strikes because nothing is really on the line.
It's no different from the game applied on Facebook which is Zynga Poker. I even spent a lot of time sending chips to friends so they can send me back more.
I use to play that before but because you are not using real chips you tend to not care about winning or losing, you become more aggressive with your moves while your brain is telling you is not real money.

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Quote from: michellee on July 25, 2022, 01:52:20 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2022, 02:59:42 PM

Requires big money or bankroll for you to make out big base bets which is common sense but you could also potentially hit big multipliers even with just a small bankroll but of course most of the time you would be ending up on failing because you cant really be that versatile when you are just simply having small bankroll unlike when you do have huge amounts which is common sense. Luck is always be the main factor whether you are playing strategically but that wont really be assuring win or profits in the end of the day.

What you say is true because no one can guarantee you will be able to win a lot of money, no matter how much money you use to gamble. In addition to losing money, you also have the potential to lose a lot of time, especially if you end up playing gambling all day long.

If you want to keep gambling, it's better to use an amount of money that you will not regret if the money is lost due to your loss but remember, the time you spend gambling can exceed what you have set. It's better to use the time you have for other things that can benefit you.

If you don't want to lose and lose in gambling then you can choose not to gamble, or try other alternatives such as just for entertainment by using a demo account. But even if at first you only use a demo account which gives easy wins, you can be motivated to start making deposits assuming the wins you get on the demo account will continue when using real money. So, gambling itself is difficult but if you don't have the target to win big, then you also won't waste your time and you stay in control of the game.

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Quote from: Fatunad on July 24, 2022, 02:59:42 PM

Requires big money or bankroll for you to make out big base bets which is common sense but you could also potentially hit big multipliers even with just a small bankroll but of course most of the time you would be ending up on failing because you cant really be that versatile when you are just simply having small bankroll unlike when you do have huge amounts which is common sense. Luck is always be the main factor whether you are playing strategically but that wont really be assuring win or profits in the end of the day.

What you say is true because no one can guarantee you will be able to win a lot of money, no matter how much money you use to gamble. In addition to losing money, you also have the potential to lose a lot of time, especially if you end up playing gambling all day long.

If you want to keep gambling, it's better to use an amount of money that you will not regret if the money is lost due to your loss but remember, the time you spend gambling can exceed what you have set. It's better to use the time you have for other things that can benefit you.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2022, 03:46:18 PM

I once thought that fun tokens or gambling with fake money do not have any entertainment effect but I was wrong. I used not to bet with fake money in any casino for the thought that it woudn't give me any entertainment but when I tried it, I found that it can be an alternative to some extent. It also saves me a lot of money trying unknown casino slot games. With that, I can learn the mechanics of slots without spending or losing a single penny. It somehow entertain me because I got to see how the slots work and enjoyed the visual effect of the game.

The difference is psychological mostly, when we play with demo money the dopamine doesn't pump our greedy emotions so we can't get same experience like we do on real gambling sessions. Unfortunately, promotions are trap for depositing into casino because this is how the casino management be sure we will go deposit to chase our losses. Blocking all gambling related websites and self exclusion can be helpful if addiction is not controllable.

the fake money cannot buy you happiness - rather than wasting time on fake money and apps
one should look for a better and more productive opportunity to make a better use of the time and energy

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I once thought that fun tokens or gambling with fake money do not have any entertainment effect but I was wrong. I used not to bet with fake money in any casino for the thought that it woudn't give me any entertainment but when I tried it, I found that it can be an alternative to some extent. It also saves me a lot of money trying unknown casino slot games. With that, I can learn the mechanics of slots without spending or losing a single penny. It somehow entertain me because I got to see how the slots work and enjoyed the visual effect of the game.

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