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Quote from: Japinat on August 09, 2022, 02:51:52 PM

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.

I personally think that if a person is gambling with fake money then he won't be so addicted to gambling at first place.
Why I am saying this is because when you gamble with real money it gives you a thrill which in turn gives you the adrenaline rush which fake money cannot provide.
So the probability of addiction through gambling with fake money is really low. The human mind only produces dopamine when we are getting a reward out of something.
Money is the reward in gambling. If there's no real money then there's not enough dopamine to get us into the addiction stage.
Most probably after one point we will get bored by playing the games.

Yes, that is also possible and yes it's true that only real gambling can only give us the thrill we seek as it's where we can make real money despite of odds that are against us. But there's also a big possibility that a person will be tempted to go where the real deal is because he or she will start to believe that if he can win in fake gambling, then he or she can also have the same win in the real gambling with the same technique.

And come to think that you would really be having those mad or sick type of betting when you do know that you do have fake funds which it would really be having no emotions attached and when you do win or

hit big multipliers then the main thing that would come up into your mind is that you should really be doing this in real funds and would expect that it would be ending up on the same results and making your hell of

a rich guy.Am i right? We are naturally born greedy deep inside but there are ones who do able to control and there are ones who arent thats why ending up on bad decisions and outcomes.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.

I personally think that if a person is gambling with fake money then he won't be so addicted to gambling at first place.
Why I am saying this is because when you gamble with real money it gives you a thrill which in turn gives you the adrenaline rush which fake money cannot provide.
So the probability of addiction through gambling with fake money is really low. The human mind only produces dopamine when we are getting a reward out of something.
Money is the reward in gambling. If there's no real money then there's not enough dopamine to get us into the addiction stage.
Most probably after one point we will get bored by playing the games.

Yes, that is also possible and yes it's true that only real gambling can only give us the thrill we seek as it's where we can make real money despite of odds that are against us. But there's also a big possibility that a person will be tempted to go where the real deal is because he or she will start to believe that if he can win in fake gambling, then he or she can also have the same win in the real gambling with the same technique.

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Quote from: yazher on August 09, 2022, 02:03:41 AM

This is the same idea for the one who wants to quit smoking and some of them use the idea that they will still smoke but they're not using tobacco instead they used the cigarettes that are used in the movies where they literally smoke but in reality they're not because the substances and the effect of smoking are not there anymore. I find it really useful for someone who cannot resist themselves doing so because of severe addiction and the good thing about it is, they're not losing money as well rather they've just played for entertainment completely.

That's a good point and I really know people who lie to themselves saying that they're trying to quit addictive PC gaming so they play on their phones in the bathroom because nobody watches them and a phone is not a computer so they're "doing something to make themselves better". It's one big lie.
Gambling without money is like sex with yourself. Better than nothing, but you know it's not the real thing and you'll still want the real experience.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on August 09, 2022, 03:52:53 AM

Playing for real money and playing for free chips that cost nothing are very different things. It's like a bookmaker that gives you the opportunity to play for virtual money, the player's interest in virtual money is minimal, there are no those feelings and that responsibility that should be. A person who plays for virtual money will not get the proper experience, because he does not have the threat of losing his money, without emotions he can do everything well, but with real money on adrenaline and emotions everything will be different.

Using virtual money will not feel the sensation of real gambling games, we bet without considering losses and without hesitation for all-in bets because we have nothing to lose. Like the gambling simulation game mode so there is no interest to play, even other competitive games that are not gambling based are staked with real money to motivate to win.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 08, 2022, 02:48:09 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.

I personally think that if a person is gambling with fake money then he won't be so addicted to gambling at first place.
Why I am saying this is because when you gamble with real money it gives you a thrill which in turn gives you the adrenaline rush which fake money cannot provide.
So the probability of addiction through gambling with fake money is really low. The human mind only produces dopamine when we are getting a reward out of something.
Money is the reward in gambling. If there's no real money then there's not enough dopamine to get us into the addiction stage.
Most probably after one point we will get bored by playing the games.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on August 08, 2022, 11:15:11 AM

Maybe when VR will improve, we can play like this without real money, i don't know.

This will be followed by non-alcohol beer and inflatable women Grin

VR wont help to resist a temptation to gamble with real money. I hardly believe there are people on earth who can resist playing real money. Even if just stand to people that gamble and down have intentions to play, your brain still calculate the amount of money you can afford to lose right now.

There are no alternatives to gambling with money. No matter what you use to make a bet (cigarette, tree leaf, match, cookie), the brain still recalculate outcome into a money value.

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Quote from: _act_ on August 09, 2022, 02:36:45 AM

The casinos that make their users to be able to gamble with money that is not real make the offer because they want their casino site to be newbie friendly. Newbies will find it easy to look for a games on the casino site and test it, just like demo. With that, they use it to know about the game so that if they want to gamble with real monery, they will not find it hard as they have known more about how the game they want to use for the gambling is.

Playing for real money and playing for free chips that cost nothing are very different things. It's like a bookmaker that gives you the opportunity to play for virtual money, the player's interest in virtual money is minimal, there are no those feelings and that responsibility that should be. A person who plays for virtual money will not get the proper experience, because he does not have the threat of losing his money, without emotions he can do everything well, but with real money on adrenaline and emotions everything will be different.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

The casinos that make their users to be able to gamble with money that is not real make the offer because they want their casino site to be newbie friendly. Newbies will find it easy to look for a games on the casino site and test it, just like demo. With that, they use it to know about the game so that if they want to gamble with real monery, they will not find it hard as they have known more about how the game they want to use for the gambling is.

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This is the same idea for the one who wants to quit smoking and some of them use the idea that they will still smoke but they're not using tobacco instead they used the cigarettes that are used in the movies where they literally smoke but in reality they're not because the substances and the effect of smoking are not there anymore. I find it really useful for someone who cannot resist themselves doing so because of severe addiction and the good thing about it is, they're not losing money as well rather they've just played for entertainment completely.

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As far as I understand, for many people (and for me as well), the main reason for gambling is precisely the excitement and the desire to take risks. That is, when a person bets real money, he feels a big surge of adrenaline. It seems to me that with fake money, the sensations are not so sharp at all. Nevertheless, this is just an incredibly useful thing for those who are already addicted to gambling and want to stop it! I definitely support such methods.

Then who would keep gambling using faucet for entire his life? No one since it's boring and no reason to play it, both gambling and adrenaline can't be separated, this mean gambling should use real money.

It's impossible if an addict use faucet since they're trying to recover his losses, not to fill his free times.

Now I wonder, is there anyone who only gamble with faucet for a month or a week? personally I will quit it when I gamble for 2-3 days using faucet.

Indeed, you're absolutely right, although I admit it's a little sad. In the end, I would like to have a remedy for gambling addiction that would be painless and effective. Imagine if a person addicted to gambling played for several years for faucets and got rid of his addiction. This would be a great option that would allow a person to cope with his problem without using medications, hospitals, and doctor visits.

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

If so, it would be better if the people in your community did not gamble because you know that gambling will not give you the money you want. It is better to make ends meet for our survival to survive than to gamble and you are already doing a good thing by not gambling and using the money you have well to buy the necessities you need. People have been able to find things to cheer themselves up by buying food and going to the movies and I think that's more than enough. At least, there was something they got by using the money.

Setting the boundary clear between your needs and wants exhibits a discipline. If someone do not really afford to gamble because of financial constraints, then they shouldn't really engage in the first place. Gambling is addicting and if you don't have the money you can afford to lose, then better not bet at all. Just prioritize the necessities instead of spending it over games that cannot make your stomach full.

While gambling can bring you money if you win, we should also acknowledge the fact that not everyday is a good day. So basically, it won't really be sustainable to bring food onto your table and pay your bills. It's always better to spend your money in something else more important most especially if you are in a tight budget and cannot afford to lose money in a snap.

Agree with what you say because if we do not have high discipline in playing gambling, we will only lose money without having a chance to get a win. Although sometimes we can win, the victory will not be as big as the amount we will lose from gambling games. The fact is that many people continue to gamble even though they have lost several times and are still repeating the same mistakes because they still think that one day, they will be able to win a lot of money from gambling. Indeed they have the possibility to win, but who knows when the time will come. We better use the money for our daily needs because it is more important in our lives. And we also need to use the money we earn from our jobs to survive.

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

but i'm sure that in your community there are some people who like gambling and maybe gambling with fake money is an alternative to entertain themselves playing gambling without involving real money.
i totally understand the situation in your place with all the difficulties and real money is very much worth it. but if they really need entertainment to fill their spare time and only gambling can make them feel happy, maybe they should try gambling using counterfeit money.

Nope. No way gambling with fake money get you entertained.

My point of view is like this : those casinos with a tagline ' we offer to play with fake money to reduce an addicting to gamble' lol you are luring people to get addicted even more! As once you tried any kind form of gambling with even a fake money .. people would believe that they are always winning in the fake money rounds then why not to give a shot in real money to get easy money as you guys mentioned above that in your community .. the money is hard earned then why not to try an easy money through gambling , that's my point of view.

The excitement is truly different if you will use the fake money vs. real money. The gambling sites are just luring gamblers to play if they have such tagline. Let us admit that we are more careful when our hard-earned money is at stake. Also, how you play with fake money is also different, as you don't care much about the results if you are just using play money.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on August 08, 2022, 06:40:55 PM

My point of view is like this : those casinos with a tagline ' we offer to play with fake money to reduce an addicting to gamble' lol you are luring people to get addicted even more! As once you tried any kind form of gambling with even a fake money .. people would believe that they are always winning in the fake money rounds then why not to give a shot in real money to get easy money as you guys mentioned above that in your community .. the money is hard earned then why not to try an easy money through gambling , that's my point of view.

People don't waste time in unnecessarily stuff ...rather have some productive activity and earn some real money
That can be even teaching someone - making a small home based garden and selling of at the small level - it will also help you move away from the screen - will be healthy as well

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

but i'm sure that in your community there are some people who like gambling and maybe gambling with fake money is an alternative to entertain themselves playing gambling without involving real money.
i totally understand the situation in your place with all the difficulties and real money is very much worth it. but if they really need entertainment to fill their spare time and only gambling can make them feel happy, maybe they should try gambling using counterfeit money.

Nope. No way gambling with fake money get you entertained.

My point of view is like this : those casinos with a tagline ' we offer to play with fake money to reduce an addicting to gamble' lol you are luring people to get addicted even more! As once you tried any kind form of gambling with even a fake money .. people would believe that they are always winning in the fake money rounds then why not to give a shot in real money to get easy money as you guys mentioned above that in your community .. the money is hard earned then why not to try an easy money through gambling , that's my point of view.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 08, 2022, 02:48:09 PM

Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on August 07, 2022, 09:52:29 AM

Quote from: Silberman on August 05, 2022, 12:34:10 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on August 04, 2022, 03:15:22 PM

This is not a good idea in my own opinion, it is better to abstain from gambling if you looking for a way to take a break, or minimize loses but to some point gambling with fake money does not help the gamblers in any way.

In theory this is something that it could work, the issue is that the reality many times differ with what we can expect out of our theories, gambling with play money may seem like a good alternative as you are not spending money when you gamble and it may seem that over the long term you will reduce the amount of money you use to gamble, however most of the time things happen tin the opposite order, people begin to gamble with play money and then after some time they decide to use real money for their bets, so while using play money instead of regular money may seem like a good idea it is nowhere near as practical as it may seem.

Gambling with real money provides a thrill which gambling with fake money cannot provide.
While the motive behind this idea is really good it simply can't workout because of the mere fact that people gamble with real money to have that adrenaline rush which fake money cannot give them.

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.

The more engagement the more you do mold yourself on being an addicted gambler.It true that it doesnt matter whether its a real or fake money it would really be just the same since you are still
playing gambling and if you are really that willing to quit then you shouldnt really make yourself get involved with gambling in the first place. Fake money is not really that recommendable because it cant
really make someone stop gambling because they would really be just rather make use of real money because there's no excitement on playing fake money thats why
its not really that effective if you do really think that this one could fight nor stop nor lessen gambling addiction.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

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Quote from: Silberman on August 05, 2022, 12:34:10 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on August 04, 2022, 03:15:22 PM

This is not a good idea in my own opinion, it is better to abstain from gambling if you looking for a way to take a break, or minimize loses but to some point gambling with fake money does not help the gamblers in any way.

In theory this is something that it could work, the issue is that the reality many times differ with what we can expect out of our theories, gambling with play money may seem like a good alternative as you are not spending money when you gamble and it may seem that over the long term you will reduce the amount of money you use to gamble, however most of the time things happen tin the opposite order, people begin to gamble with play money and then after some time they decide to use real money for their bets, so while using play money instead of regular money may seem like a good idea it is nowhere near as practical as it may seem.

Gambling with real money provides a thrill which gambling with fake money cannot provide.
While the motive behind this idea is really good it simply can't workout because of the mere fact that people gamble with real money to have that adrenaline rush which fake money cannot give them.

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

Not a good idea to start either, I mean they are doing just fine even without these fake apps with fake amounts of money, and using these kinds of apps will just put fuel in their hidden desires towards where the real gambling is. I understand the motive and what you're trying to say but the solution you're trying to offer will probably destroy their lives if it turns out that they will be curious about gambling.

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

but i'm sure that in your community there are some people who like gambling and maybe gambling with fake money is an alternative to entertain themselves playing gambling without involving real money.
i totally understand the situation in your place with all the difficulties and real money is very much worth it. but if they really need entertainment to fill their spare time and only gambling can make them feel happy, maybe they should try gambling using counterfeit money.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 08, 2022, 09:40:28 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 08, 2022, 06:38:59 AM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

If so, it would be better if the people in your community did not gamble because you know that gambling will not give you the money you want. It is better to make ends meet for our survival to survive than to gamble and you are already doing a good thing by not gambling and using the money you have well to buy the necessities you need. People have been able to find things to cheer themselves up by buying food and going to the movies and I think that's more than enough. At least, there was something they got by using the money.

Setting the boundary clear between your needs and wants exhibits a discipline. If someone do not really afford to gamble because of financial constraints, then they shouldn't really engage in the first place. Gambling is addicting and if you don't have the money you can afford to lose, then better not bet at all. Just prioritize the necessities instead of spending it over games that cannot make your stomach full.

While gambling can bring you money if you win, we should also acknowledge the fact that not everyday is a good day. So basically, it won't really be sustainable to bring food onto your table and pay your bills. It's always better to spend your money in something else more important most especially if you are in a tight budget and cannot afford to lose money in a snap.

There are lots of opinions about this and with how you present your argument it's true that if you can't afford to lose better not to dwell or not to start participating, gambling is too addicting and in just one mistake you will find yourself losing a lot and keep trying to recover resulting to keep losing more. You need to set your priorities and know your limits.

Never to exceed because the sure thing that will happen is you will end up being an addict and that would be another big problem

that can be the outcome of participating in this kind of activities.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 09:46:02 AM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 10:17:26 AM

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Quote from: Silberman on August 05, 2022, 12:34:10 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on August 04, 2022, 03:15:22 PM

This is not a good idea in my own opinion, it is better to abstain from gambling if you looking for a way to take a break, or minimize loses but to some point gambling with fake money does not help the gamblers in any way.

In theory this is something that it could work, the issue is that the reality many times differ with what we can expect out of our theories, gambling with play money may seem like a good alternative as you are not spending money when you gamble and it may seem that over the long term you will reduce the amount of money you use to gamble, however most of the time things happen tin the opposite order, people begin to gamble with play money and then after some time they decide to use real money for their bets, so while using play money instead of regular money may seem like a good idea it is nowhere near as practical as it may seem.

Gambling with real money provides a thrill which gambling with fake money cannot provide.
While the motive behind this idea is really good it simply can't workout because of the mere fact that people gamble with real money to have that adrenaline rush which fake money cannot give them.

I live in the community where money is very very hard earned. Lots of people live below the poverty line so they are always struggling to make their ends meet.
So we don't have much left to spend on entertainment. The most - people do is eat out and go to cinema.
We dont gamble and we cannot throw money away life rich people and people living in developed country does.

Since you people can't gamble because of the lack of money, this means that this idea of gambling with fake money suit you the most. If gambling is available to you with fake money, will you people gamble and get some entertainment? Since you will have nothing to lose, you will enjoy gambling the most. However, i wonder what will the gambling casino earn if they allow gambling with fake money:

When you are gambling with fake money we are mostly considering it to be an online gambling website.
Since they don't use real money they get their income from the traffic generated on their website.
Also, they might use ads to get an additional income from their website but this is mostly it.

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Quote from: nullama on August 05, 2022, 07:47:36 PM

Yeah, I don't see the point of gambling with fake money, that's more similar to a game basically.

There's no real gambling component because there's no risk and no reward.

The only way I can imagine, it's some kind of virtual gambling, like gambling in video games, Gwent or HS for example. Reward ofc fake, there no use for them in real world, but if you're get into the game, acting like main character, you can gamble the same as in real life.

Maybe when VR will improve, we can play like this without real money, i don't know.

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