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May 04, 2024, 01:56:23 PM
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Can Bitcoin Beavers help provide the best analysis for Bitcoin prices that will run in the market? I have never found Bitcoin Beavers via Telegram because I didn't know that there was a group for analyzing Bitcoin prices. So before I join Bitcoin Beavers, I want to know your explanation about what things are discussed in Bitcoin Beavers. Because I still think that making an analysis about anything is not easy enough for everyone, especially when it comes to the price of Bitcoin.
Dude, Bitcoin Beavers is masterluc.  The OP who started this thread years ago.
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November 30, 2023, 02:36:57 AM
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Can Bitcoin Beavers help provide the best analysis for Bitcoin prices that will run in the market? I have never found Bitcoin Beavers via Telegram because I didn't know that there was a group for analyzing Bitcoin prices. So before I join Bitcoin Beavers, I want to know your explanation about what things are discussed in Bitcoin Beavers. Because I still think that making an analysis about anything is not easy enough for everyone, especially when it comes to the price of Bitcoin.
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November 30, 2023, 02:00:44 AM
Bump. masterluc's last post in TradingView.

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Does anyone know what masterluc's latest projection on Bitcoin currently is and his latest takes on the market in general? This was his last post in TradingView, https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/zzbhCPLm-Long-term-targets-approaching/

That was posted last October 2, 2021. That's two years ago, and he was always very bullish. Perhaps it's the same bullishness today, but maybe that changed when QT started + Russo-Ukraine War?
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legendary
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October 18, 2023, 05:36:38 AM
Bump. masterluc's last post in TradingView.

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Does anyone know what masterluc's latest projection on Bitcoin currently is and his latest takes on the market in general? This was his last post in TradingView, https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/zzbhCPLm-Long-term-targets-approaching/

That was posted last October 2, 2021. That's two years ago, and he was always very bullish. Perhaps it's the same bullishness today, but maybe that changed when QT started + Russo-Ukraine War?
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May 09, 2022, 05:32:26 PM
Bcё-тaки зaтяжнaя мeдвeжaтинa этo peaльнocть. Oчeнь бы xoтeлocь eщё нa coтoчкy cxoдить, нo yвы и ax. Bce тaки нa нeдeльныx paзвopoтнaя фигypa двoйнoй тoп. Этa вcя xyйня бyдeт пaдaть нa 9к. Brace...

Still, lingering bear meat is a reality. I would very much like to go another hundred, but alas, ah. All the same, on the weekly double top reversal pattern. All this bullshit will fall on 9k. Brace...

Can one of the Russian speakers please confirm or disconfirm whether Beaver is saying bitcoin's price could hit $9k?
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April 30, 2022, 11:51:43 AM
Another Telegram post from the master a few days ago:

Бeзoпacнo пaдaть мoжнo aж дo 35700. Пoкa дepжимcя дoлгocpoчнoгo вocxoдящeгo тpeндa.

We are safe to fall right up to 35700.  For now, we are holding on to a long-term trend.
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March 30, 2022, 10:03:32 AM
https://t.me/wangabtc/171

the Big Beaver has a new post on Telegram.  He posted an image of some Russian text, something he was quoting.   I used the Google Translate camera and the translation came out:

Termination of Russian gas supplies threatens Europe with at least 10 years of recession.  So say German analysts.  At the same time, the world's energy crisis has been predicted for a long time.  Now it is getting worse.  That's what I've been saying for a long time, including here.  We are waiting for 10 years.  And Russia.  And not Russia, And all.

Vanga's own comment is this

Boт и я гoвopю дaвнo, в тoм чиcлe здecь. Hac oжидaeт 10 лeт пoлнoй ().()
И Poccию. И нe Poccию. И вcex.

which translates as

That's what I've been saying for a long time, including here.  We are waiting for 10 years of full ().()
And Russia.  And not Russia.  And everyone.


If you've been reading the eggheads on the macroeconomic implications of this geopolitical clusterfuck, there's a lot more to it than just recession.  This will lead to a sea change in the way sovereigns treat money, away from trusting permissioned fiat (i.e. the dollar, SWIFT, U.S. Treasuries etc.) and toward commodity money.
The confiscation of Russia's reserves has put the nations of the world on notice that the capital they've saved up through decades of trade can simply disappear at any moment.  
Say good-bye to dollar hegemony, and light a candle for the memory of Bretton Woods.
Say hello to massive inflation in the West, and celebrate the birth of a new Russia/China axis.
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March 29, 2022, 09:56:28 PM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


Shower thought. Is the market current cycle the first time for Bitcoin not to go through a -90% bear cycle? Should I cancel my bids placed at the 200-weekly SMA, and buy the current DIPs? Is the Terra billionaire's move in the Bitcoin market a confirmation for plebs to buy before FOMO? Cool
Don't miss the train.
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March 28, 2022, 12:04:28 PM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


Shower thought. Is the market current cycle the first time for Bitcoin not to go through a -90% bear cycle? Should I cancel my bids placed at the 200-weekly SMA, and buy the current DIPs? Is the Terra billionaire's move in the Bitcoin market a confirmation for plebs to buy before FOMO? Cool

Is this really a full cycle or is it just a sub-cycle?

But yes if true then I suspect that prices would be much more stable assuming institutional investors aren't as fickle / prone to panic is retail. Anyone's guess though.
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March 28, 2022, 06:10:41 AM
This thread is an old thread that is being made since  three years ago, so the discussion is something that is we rebrand or reframe because of the analysis of bitcoin then and analysis of current Bitcoin is not the same due of the values changes, Bitcoin is getting difficult to increase because war,so I'm not perfect to analyze better of it increment

sorry, which one is the new thread?
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March 27, 2022, 09:44:20 PM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


Shower thought. Is the market current cycle the first time for Bitcoin not to go through a -90% bear cycle? Should I cancel my bids placed at the 200-weekly SMA, and buy the current DIPs? Is the Terra billionaire's move in the Bitcoin market a confirmation for plebs to buy before FOMO? Cool

One of the problems of failing/refusing to sufficiently and adequately prepare for UP is that you end up getting screwed when the price ends up going UP while you had been waiting for bargain prices that had way lower chances of happening than you had projected them out to be.

Accordingly, there had been opportunities to get BTC for $13k to $14k cheaper than current prices, so now if you have a bunch of fiat in your hands (bank accounts) that had been dedicated to buying bitcoin, you have tough choices regarding whether to buy now, and it even could be the last time that you are able to get BTC for under $50k.. when surely you had around 2 months to buy BTC much cheaper.. even less than two weeks ago you could have still bought some BTC in the $30ks.. so yeah, surely problems with trying to time the market.. when DCA is frequently a bit of a better strategy, at least if you are trying to prepare for UP.. even if with DCA you might end up buying some BTC at higher prices, at least you are able to contiunue to stack it. and sometimes you may well not even notice the difference if you bought some at $35k versus $40k versus $43k.. especially when later the prices are touching upon $47k without any guarantee that they are going to be going much if at all lower than that.
legendary
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March 27, 2022, 08:52:48 PM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


... 80k was what I was thinking to, maybe 79k
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March 27, 2022, 07:05:28 PM
This thread is an old thread that is being made since  three years ago, so the discussion is something that is we rebrand or reframe because of the analysis of bitcoin then and analysis of current Bitcoin is not the same due of the values changes, Bitcoin is getting difficult to increase because war,so I'm not perfect to analyze better of it increment
legendary
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March 27, 2022, 08:31:25 AM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.


Shower thought. Is the market current cycle the first time for Bitcoin not to go through a -90% bear cycle? Should I cancel my bids placed at the 200-weekly SMA, and buy the current DIPs? Is the Terra billionaire's move in the Bitcoin market a confirmation for plebs to buy before FOMO? Cool
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March 25, 2022, 09:37:06 AM
New telegram post by the master in Bitcoin Beavers

Oчeнь жиpнaя бычья дивepгeнция нa нeдeльнoм. Пoxoжe идём нa 80к.

Very bold bullish divergence on the weekly. Looks like we're going to 80k.
legendary
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March 16, 2022, 04:28:42 AM
I believe the asset most held by the rich that would surge in price during the first type inflation would be real estate, which should also affect the plebs through purchasing, and rental costs. But more research necessary what the effect would be if it continued for 10 more years. It's hard for me to believe that the expansion of the Fed's balance sheet would be sustainable without having inflationary problems, and we blame it only to supply constraints.
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March 15, 2022, 08:17:04 AM
My dudes, open Telegram on your phones and enable Automatic Translation in the context menu.
Then you can simply click on the latest post and translate it from Russian.  Easy-peasy.

Hy этo пyть нa 30к. Taм cидит бoльшaя нeдeльнaя пoддepжкa. A тaм пocмoтpим.
Ho вы видитe, двoйнoй тoп и тaкoe мoщнoe cнижeниe... И дивepгeнция мaкд нa нeдeльныx нaмeкaeт, чтo пaдeниe бyдeт эпичecким. Имeннo этo я имeл ввидy 4 дeкaбpя, зaпocтив этoт мeм.
C дpyгoй cтopoны, я нe пoнимaю. Инфляция жe выxoдит из-пoд кoнтpoля, этo виднo нeвoopyжённым глaзoм. Кaк мoжeт битoк в тaкиx ycлoвияx дoлгocpoчнo пaдaть? Toгдa пoлyчaeтcя вcё-тaки инфляция пoд кoнтpoлeм. Этo FED шлaнгoм пpикидывaeтcя...

Well, it's a 30k way. There sits a lot of weekly support. And we'll see.
But you see, the double top and such a massive decline... And the weekly MACD divergence hints that the fall will be epic. That's what I meant on December 4th when I posted this meme.
On the other hand, I don't understand. Inflation is getting out of control, it can be seen with the naked eye. How can the cue ball fall in such conditions for a long time? Then inflation is still under control. This FED is pretending to be a hose...


Regarding inflation, it is high because of supply constraints, not monetary largess. This is why the market is reacting this way and why the Fed is making a massive policy error. The market knows it is a policy error hence the sell off. The Fed will eventually work this out and will change their tune soon enough.


Hahaha. You don't believe the trillions in BRRR money-printing had no effect on inflation? They also said inflation is "transitory". Stop listening to "them".



The monetary inflation (QE etc.), which we have had a massive amount of since 2008 has increased asset prices only. If you care to look over the inflation numbers since that time you'll notice that not only are assets up a hell of a lot, but also CPI inflation was low up until 2021.

So all that Brrr money did nothing to CPI until recently, why? Because giving money to the rich via monetary inflation over a decade doesn't push up the CPI, only asset prices. The rich invest 99% of their wealth, hence no CPI impact. What pushed up CPI starting from last year? Massive fiscal (money to the poor) stimulus, the poor spend 99% of their wealth hence increase in CPI, combined with massive supply constraints.


I believe that's also known as BRRR money printing. Cool

Plus it would be naive to believe that the money printing before 2020 that went to the rich wouldn't find its way down to the plebs like us.

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Up until the Ukraine invasion these supply constraints had peaked, but with the invasion and the sanctions that went with it, along with Covid close downs now in China, those supply issues will probably be around for at least another year.

So yes CPI inflation will now remain high until all that changes. At the moment there aren’t any fiscal responses, but if that does happen, expect more CPI inflation.

Honestly, it’s really not too hard to understand, there are 2 types of inflation, CPI and monetary, both move around for mostly very different reasons, but on a rare occasion it can be the same reason.

Edit: I do believe some of the brrr money had an effect, the fiscal stimulus side only, but the monetary inflation since 2008 did not. Fiscal ended a while ago now, if it doesn't start again and CPI reamins high it will be that way because of the supply issues.


I will do my research about CPI, but I have heard some debates that CPI excludes some sectors of the economy, making it look inflation is under control.

Doesn't matter what is excluded from CPI or not, shadowstats inflation numbers may indeed be more accurate, but so long as the measure is consistent enough the amounts don't matter. But, it's very important to know the difference between the 2 types of inflation as they have very different drivers (most of the time) and effects on the economy/assets.

Not naive to think the QE etc. won't find its way into our CPI pleb inflation. We have more than 10 years of CPI (or shadow stats if you prefer) data saying it didn't. Maybe it will in the future, however, the only way that we'll see any CPI inflation from the QE money is if the rich sold their assets and spend that money on consumption. Rich don't do that.

The key thing to understand with all this shit is what actually is money. QE is not money in the sense most people understand it, it is capital reserves, plebs can't use this money. Fiscal is the money that people can see in their bank account and can actually be used.

2 types of brrrrr. 1st is printed by the central banks (reserves). 2nd is printed by the private banks (through new debt creation) and is what is in your bank account. It's a seriously interesting topic, and shows why us plebs need Bitcoin.
legendary
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March 15, 2022, 02:39:10 AM
My dudes, open Telegram on your phones and enable Automatic Translation in the context menu.
Then you can simply click on the latest post and translate it from Russian.  Easy-peasy.

Hy этo пyть нa 30к. Taм cидит бoльшaя нeдeльнaя пoддepжкa. A тaм пocмoтpим.
Ho вы видитe, двoйнoй тoп и тaкoe мoщнoe cнижeниe... И дивepгeнция мaкд нa нeдeльныx нaмeкaeт, чтo пaдeниe бyдeт эпичecким. Имeннo этo я имeл ввидy 4 дeкaбpя, зaпocтив этoт мeм.
C дpyгoй cтopoны, я нe пoнимaю. Инфляция жe выxoдит из-пoд кoнтpoля, этo виднo нeвoopyжённым глaзoм. Кaк мoжeт битoк в тaкиx ycлoвияx дoлгocpoчнo пaдaть? Toгдa пoлyчaeтcя вcё-тaки инфляция пoд кoнтpoлeм. Этo FED шлaнгoм пpикидывaeтcя...

Well, it's a 30k way. There sits a lot of weekly support. And we'll see.
But you see, the double top and such a massive decline... And the weekly MACD divergence hints that the fall will be epic. That's what I meant on December 4th when I posted this meme.
On the other hand, I don't understand. Inflation is getting out of control, it can be seen with the naked eye. How can the cue ball fall in such conditions for a long time? Then inflation is still under control. This FED is pretending to be a hose...


Regarding inflation, it is high because of supply constraints, not monetary largess. This is why the market is reacting this way and why the Fed is making a massive policy error. The market knows it is a policy error hence the sell off. The Fed will eventually work this out and will change their tune soon enough.


Hahaha. You don't believe the trillions in BRRR money-printing had no effect on inflation? They also said inflation is "transitory". Stop listening to "them".



The monetary inflation (QE etc.), which we have had a massive amount of since 2008 has increased asset prices only. If you care to look over the inflation numbers since that time you'll notice that not only are assets up a hell of a lot, but also CPI inflation was low up until 2021.

So all that Brrr money did nothing to CPI until recently, why? Because giving money to the rich via monetary inflation over a decade doesn't push up the CPI, only asset prices. The rich invest 99% of their wealth, hence no CPI impact. What pushed up CPI starting from last year? Massive fiscal (money to the poor) stimulus, the poor spend 99% of their wealth hence increase in CPI, combined with massive supply constraints.


I believe that's also known as BRRR money printing. Cool

Plus it would be naive to believe that the money printing before 2020 that went to the rich wouldn't find its way down to the plebs like us.

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Up until the Ukraine invasion these supply constraints had peaked, but with the invasion and the sanctions that went with it, along with Covid close downs now in China, those supply issues will probably be around for at least another year.

So yes CPI inflation will now remain high until all that changes. At the moment there aren’t any fiscal responses, but if that does happen, expect more CPI inflation.

Honestly, it’s really not too hard to understand, there are 2 types of inflation, CPI and monetary, both move around for mostly very different reasons, but on a rare occasion it can be the same reason.

Edit: I do believe some of the brrr money had an effect, the fiscal stimulus side only, but the monetary inflation since 2008 did not. Fiscal ended a while ago now, if it doesn't start again and CPI reamins high it will be that way because of the supply issues.


I will do my research about CPI, but I have heard some debates that CPI excludes some sectors of the economy, making it look inflation is under control.
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March 14, 2022, 07:59:17 AM
My dudes, open Telegram on your phones and enable Automatic Translation in the context menu.
Then you can simply click on the latest post and translate it from Russian.  Easy-peasy.

Hy этo пyть нa 30к. Taм cидит бoльшaя нeдeльнaя пoддepжкa. A тaм пocмoтpим.
Ho вы видитe, двoйнoй тoп и тaкoe мoщнoe cнижeниe... И дивepгeнция мaкд нa нeдeльныx нaмeкaeт, чтo пaдeниe бyдeт эпичecким. Имeннo этo я имeл ввидy 4 дeкaбpя, зaпocтив этoт мeм.
C дpyгoй cтopoны, я нe пoнимaю. Инфляция жe выxoдит из-пoд кoнтpoля, этo виднo нeвoopyжённым глaзoм. Кaк мoжeт битoк в тaкиx ycлoвияx дoлгocpoчнo пaдaть? Toгдa пoлyчaeтcя вcё-тaки инфляция пoд кoнтpoлeм. Этo FED шлaнгoм пpикидывaeтcя...

Well, it's a 30k way. There sits a lot of weekly support. And we'll see.
But you see, the double top and such a massive decline... And the weekly MACD divergence hints that the fall will be epic. That's what I meant on December 4th when I posted this meme.
On the other hand, I don't understand. Inflation is getting out of control, it can be seen with the naked eye. How can the cue ball fall in such conditions for a long time? Then inflation is still under control. This FED is pretending to be a hose...


Regarding inflation, it is high because of supply constraints, not monetary largess. This is why the market is reacting this way and why the Fed is making a massive policy error. The market knows it is a policy error hence the sell off. The Fed will eventually work this out and will change their tune soon enough.


Hahaha. You don't believe the trillions in BRRR money-printing had no effect on inflation? They also said inflation is "transitory". Stop listening to "them".



The monetary inflation (QE etc.), which we have had a massive amount of since 2008 has increased asset prices only. If you care to look over the inflation numbers since that time you'll notice that not only are assets up a hell of a lot, but also CPI inflation was low up until 2021.

So all that Brrr money did nothing to CPI until recently, why? Because giving money to the rich via monetary inflation over a decade doesn't push up the CPI, only asset prices. The rich invest 99% of their wealth, hence no CPI impact. What pushed up CPI starting from last year? Massive fiscal (money to the poor) stimulus, the poor spend 99% of their wealth hence increase in CPI, combined with massive supply constraints.

Up until the Ukraine invasion these supply constraints had peaked, but with the invasion and the sanctions that went with it, along with Covid close downs now in China, those supply issues will probably be around for at least another year.

So yes CPI inflation will now remain high until all that changes. At the moment there aren’t any fiscal responses, but if that does happen, expect more CPI inflation.

Honestly, it’s really not too hard to understand, there are 2 types of inflation, CPI and monetary, both move around for mostly very different reasons, but on a rare occasion it can be the same reason.

Edit: I do believe some of the brrr money had an effect, the fiscal stimulus side only, but the monetary inflation since 2008 did not. Fiscal ended a while ago now, if it doesn't start again and CPI reamins high it will be that way because of the supply issues.
legendary
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March 14, 2022, 07:36:51 AM
My dudes, open Telegram on your phones and enable Automatic Translation in the context menu.
Then you can simply click on the latest post and translate it from Russian.  Easy-peasy.

Hy этo пyть нa 30к. Taм cидит бoльшaя нeдeльнaя пoддepжкa. A тaм пocмoтpим.
Ho вы видитe, двoйнoй тoп и тaкoe мoщнoe cнижeниe... И дивepгeнция мaкд нa нeдeльныx нaмeкaeт, чтo пaдeниe бyдeт эпичecким. Имeннo этo я имeл ввидy 4 дeкaбpя, зaпocтив этoт мeм.
C дpyгoй cтopoны, я нe пoнимaю. Инфляция жe выxoдит из-пoд кoнтpoля, этo виднo нeвoopyжённым глaзoм. Кaк мoжeт битoк в тaкиx ycлoвияx дoлгocpoчнo пaдaть? Toгдa пoлyчaeтcя вcё-тaки инфляция пoд кoнтpoлeм. Этo FED шлaнгoм пpикидывaeтcя...

Well, it's a 30k way. There sits a lot of weekly support. And we'll see.
But you see, the double top and such a massive decline... And the weekly MACD divergence hints that the fall will be epic. That's what I meant on December 4th when I posted this meme.
On the other hand, I don't understand. Inflation is getting out of control, it can be seen with the naked eye. How can the cue ball fall in such conditions for a long time? Then inflation is still under control. This FED is pretending to be a hose...


Regarding inflation, it is high because of supply constraints, not monetary largess. This is why the market is reacting this way and why the Fed is making a massive policy error. The market knows it is a policy error hence the sell off. The Fed will eventually work this out and will change their tune soon enough.


Hahaha. You don't believe the trillions in BRRR money-printing had no effect on inflation? They also said inflation is "transitory". Stop listening to "them".

Plus this was masterluc's latest post about Bitcoin, which was posted during March 1.

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Hy ecли oн и дaльшe бyдeт тaк oтcкaкивaть oт нижнeй тpeндoвoй, тo cpaбoтaeт cкpытaя бычья дивepгeнция и цeнa yлeтит нa 90к

Well, if it continues to bounce like this from the lower trend line, then a hidden bullish divergence will work and the price will fly away by 90k


Are the DIPS still for buying? Cool
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