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legendary
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January 29, 2019, 05:38:18 AM
A lot of people (too many?) are focusing on the weekly 200 MA but breaking it doesn't really matter. In October 2008, Amazon stock broke below it for around 3 months (around  $50 at the time), 1 year later the price had almost tripled.

No indicator (moving average or otherwise) is a guarantee of support or resistance. It's just a matter of probability. It's obvious the 200-week MA (along with the 200-day and 20-week) are important for traders and investors, whether because of a self-fulfilling prophecy or otherwise. Markets often respect these levels, including Bitcoin.

The first data on the 200-week MA in Bitcoin markets came out in 2014. The only times the market ever tested it (twice in 2015), it held. With such limited price history (2010 on), it's hard to ignore that.

True. My point is that a close below the weekly 200 MA doesn't mean the end of the BTC bull market and is where the smart money hopes to buy Your bitcoins by inducing a panic reaction.


I believe the holders, the "weak hands", and whoever is participating in this market have already acquired enough knowledge and experience of the Bitcoin market not to fall for the whalecumulators' traps.

On the contrary, I believe they will be placing bids below the weekly 200 MA.

That's totally possible, and the weekly 200 MA might even hold. But it's very clear the wannabe BTC bottom buyers are building a narrative, that BTC has never broken the weekly 200 MA and if it does it's the end of the world. Very transparent.

I don't believe that they are "building" a narrative, more of an analysis that doesn't deal with absolutes, but more on the probabilities that it might hold the weekly 200 MA based on past performance.
legendary
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January 28, 2019, 06:05:45 PM
Ok, so as a somewhat-native Russian speaker, I'll try to translate the unclear parts. In fact, @figmentofmyass, while not being Russian speaker, got them right anyway.

Until the Russian native speakers weigh in, I'll take a swing at it.
Weekly MA200 served the function of a trampoline in 2015 and promises to do so now.
"hell it will break it" (MA200) is the colloquial Russian typical of our maestro.  Waiting for the Russian native speakers to weigh in.
"Ho xpeн oнo ee пpoбьeт." - "But hell it will break it." in more formal language means - "There is absolutely no way the price will be able to brake MA200". He means it can be tested and even pierced, but should bounce immediately.

When I pasted "Ho ecли пpoбьeт и yдepжитcя, я кaк бык oфициaльнo cдaюcь" in Google Translate, it gave me
But if there is a way to survive, I, as a bull, will formally surrender

It means - "But if anyway price brakes MA200 and stays there, I will officially give up being a bull". That's pretty strong statement, as he means his long-term bullishness, which was unaffected by any prior Bitcoin move.
hero member
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January 28, 2019, 04:31:45 PM
Chart and Weekly RSI



Falling wedges, even on RSI ( Look at 2014-2015 ).

Monthly RSI / Stoch RSI



Both within their historical support area ( 2014 / 2015 ).
Should bulls be able to have them close above support in january then anything may happen ...
sr. member
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January 28, 2019, 08:36:17 AM
A lot of people (too many?) are focusing on the weekly 200 MA but breaking it doesn't really matter. In October 2008, Amazon stock broke below it for around 3 months (around  $50 at the time), 1 year later the price had almost tripled.

No indicator (moving average or otherwise) is a guarantee of support or resistance. It's just a matter of probability. It's obvious the 200-week MA (along with the 200-day and 20-week) are important for traders and investors, whether because of a self-fulfilling prophecy or otherwise. Markets often respect these levels, including Bitcoin.

The first data on the 200-week MA in Bitcoin markets came out in 2014. The only times the market ever tested it (twice in 2015), it held. With such limited price history (2010 on), it's hard to ignore that.

True. My point is that a close below the weekly 200 MA doesn't mean the end of the BTC bull market and is where the smart money hopes to buy Your bitcoins by inducing a panic reaction.


I believe the holders, the "weak hands", and whoever is participating in this market have already acquired enough knowledge and experience of the Bitcoin market not to fall for the whalecumulators' traps.

On the contrary, I believe they will be placing bids below the weekly 200 MA.

That's totally possible, and the weekly 200 MA might even hold. But it's very clear the wannabe BTC bottom buyers are building a narrative, that BTC has never broken the weekly 200 MA and if it does it's the end of the world. Very transparent.




There is also a probability that we can see a flash drop and recover under weekly 200 MA, I mean a capitulation candle like 14 January 2015 which has a pin under  200 weekly but the close is above weekly 200 MA.




legendary
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January 28, 2019, 03:08:58 AM
A lot of people (too many?) are focusing on the weekly 200 MA but breaking it doesn't really matter. In October 2008, Amazon stock broke below it for around 3 months (around  $50 at the time), 1 year later the price had almost tripled.

No indicator (moving average or otherwise) is a guarantee of support or resistance. It's just a matter of probability. It's obvious the 200-week MA (along with the 200-day and 20-week) are important for traders and investors, whether because of a self-fulfilling prophecy or otherwise. Markets often respect these levels, including Bitcoin.

The first data on the 200-week MA in Bitcoin markets came out in 2014. The only times the market ever tested it (twice in 2015), it held. With such limited price history (2010 on), it's hard to ignore that.

True. My point is that a close below the weekly 200 MA doesn't mean the end of the BTC bull market and is where the smart money hopes to buy Your bitcoins by inducing a panic reaction.


I believe the holders, the "weak hands", and whoever is participating in this market have already acquired enough knowledge and experience of the Bitcoin market not to fall for the whalecumulators' traps.

On the contrary, I believe they will be placing bids below the weekly 200 MA.
legendary
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January 27, 2019, 10:15:17 PM
Native speaker says the last line is idiomatic. Basically means, "if it crosses the line previous stated, I was wrong/give up."

Wrong and give up have too entirely different meanings.
hero member
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January 27, 2019, 07:53:52 PM
Native speaker says the last line is idiomatic. Basically means, "if it crosses the line previous stated, I was wrong/give up."
legendary
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January 27, 2019, 06:11:11 PM
A lot of people (too many?) are focusing on the weekly 200 MA but breaking it doesn't really matter. In October 2008, Amazon stock broke below it for around 3 months (around  $50 at the time), 1 year later the price had almost tripled.

No indicator (moving average or otherwise) is a guarantee of support or resistance. It's just a matter of probability. It's obvious the 200-week MA (along with the 200-day and 20-week) are important for traders and investors, whether because of a self-fulfilling prophecy or otherwise. Markets often respect these levels, including Bitcoin.

The first data on the 200-week MA in Bitcoin markets came out in 2014. The only times the market ever tested it (twice in 2015), it held. With such limited price history (2010 on), it's hard to ignore that.
legendary
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January 26, 2019, 01:43:11 AM
another bump for the native russians to chime in.....

The translation is quite confusing Smiley

from what i can glean, he's reinforcing his earlier opinion that anything below the weekly ma200 will bounce very hard---same as 2015 he says. i'm very curious what the last sentence means though. something about what would make him give up as a bull? does he mean closing below the ma200? i thought the long term basis for his analysis was the sqrt trend though.....
hero member
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January 25, 2019, 08:06:58 PM
Until the Russian native speakers weigh in, I'll take a swing at it.
Weekly MA200 served the function of a trampoline in 2015 and promises to do so now.
"hell it will break it" (MA200) is the colloquial Russian typical of our maestro.  Waiting for the Russian native speakers to weigh in.

When I pasted "Ho ecли пpoбьeт и yдepжитcя, я кaк бык oфициaльнo cдaюcь" in Google Translate, it gave me
But if there is a way to survive, I, as a bull, will formally surrender

I'm looking for a way to export the MA200 data from some charting site for comparison to the square root trend posted above.
Rough estimate of the MA200 current rate of ascent, annualized, is about 70 or 75%.  By comparison, the square root trend extrapolates to a doubling in 2019.
newbie
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January 25, 2019, 06:04:20 PM
News from Master:
"Heдeльнaя мa200. Haчaлa cyщecтвoвaть пpимepнo в кoнцe 2014. B нaчaлe и cpeдинe 2015 былa пpoтecтиpoвaнa c мoмeнтaльным oтcкoкoм. Я тoгдa пиcaл "cмoтpитe! пoкyпaйтe!". Знaя нacкoлькo ввepx oт нee мoжeт yйти цeнa. Ceйчac cитyaция пoвтopяeтcя. Boзмoжeн тecт вниз c мoмeнтaльным oтcкoкoм. Ho xpeн oнo ee пpoбьeт. A пoтoм бyдeт pocт. Ho ecли пpoбьeт и yдepжитcя, я кaк бык oфициaльнo cдaюcь"


Weekly ma200. It began to exist around the end of 2014. At the beginning and in the middle of 2015, it was tested with an instant rebound. I then wrote "look! Buy!". Knowing how much the price can go up from it. Now the situation is repeated. Chance to test down with an instant rebound. But hell it will break it. And then there will be growth. But if I strike and hold on, I’m officially giving up like a bull.
newbie
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January 12, 2019, 04:27:41 AM
https://c.radikal.ru/c02/1901/b5/367dfbba13ec.png
кaк вaм движeниe биткoинa в этoм кaнaлe?
full member
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January 10, 2019, 11:03:07 AM
Google translation:

Quote
Kstati Bitcoin today is full 10 years: beer:

I can translate little better Smiley

By the way, Bitcoin became 10 years old. Beer)
legendary
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yes
January 09, 2019, 01:13:38 PM
Google translation:

Quote
Kstati Bitcoin today is full 10 years: beer:
newbie
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January 07, 2019, 07:22:56 PM
50k -70k for a blow off top for BTC sounds about right. Followed by a two year bear market while the tech catches up. Lightning network etc. Same goes for all the other platforms. CryptoKitties clogging up the Ethereum chain will be talked about years from now.
But they did with the help of CryptoFlowers Grin
hero member
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January 03, 2019, 11:31:05 AM
Кcтaти. Bitcoin ceгoдня иcпoлнилocь 10 лeт :пивac:
hero member
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"In Us We Trust"
December 31, 2018, 08:25:16 AM

I created a spreadsheet with a square root fitted to Gox/Bitstamp concatenated price history.
Here's a link to the spreadsheet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rBFpga3tLH2Lkac1YuvF-xQgjSDoWR6Y/view?usp=sharing



E3=0.0913388*A3^0.5-1.51936

edit:  below, charting price with respect to the sqrt baseline.



Interesting work!
hero member
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December 25, 2018, 07:04:17 AM

I created a spreadsheet with a square root fitted to Gox/Bitstamp concatenated price history.
Here's a link to the spreadsheet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rBFpga3tLH2Lkac1YuvF-xQgjSDoWR6Y/view?usp=sharing



E3=0.0913388*A3^0.5-1.51936

edit:  below, charting price with respect to the sqrt baseline.

legendary
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December 23, 2018, 06:09:34 PM
In his text regarding "Cross pizdos", he refers to stock markets (ma50 and ma200). Not sure which specific stocks he means, but he speaks about stocks.
And... don't ask me for literal translation of fabulous "cross-pizdos" expression Grin. But in fact you got the meaning right anyway Smiley

One another correction to translation above: "cook bucks" == "get your dollars ready".

Thank you! It didn't occur to me to look at the stock market, though he mentions it often. Indeed we just had a death cross (50/200 DMA) on the S&P 500 index the first week of this month! I suppose in retrospect we shouldn't be surprised the market dumped like it did last week.

The last time we saw this type of action in stocks was in 2015, at the tail end of the last Bitcoin bear market. The two markets seem pretty well correlated.
legendary
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December 23, 2018, 11:55:17 AM
New comment from the master:

Cross-пиздoc нa cтoкax пo днeвным мa 50 и 200

Я вce eщё дyмaю, чтo биткoин мoжeт cвoзить в cвязи c этим дo 2к. Ho этo дoлжнo быcтpo и бoдpo oтcкoчить, ecли бyдeт. Taк чтo coвeтyю гoтoвить бaкcы. Ecли oни y вac кoнeчнo ecть ))

A вooбщe нeдeльнaя мa 200 (oкoлo $3000) нe мoжeт быть пpoбитa нeдeльным зaкpытиeм. Пo этoмy, я дyмaю, чтo вce чтo нижe 3к бoдpo oтcкoчит.

Google Translate:

Cross pizdos on the day 50 and 200 drains

I still think that bitcoin can bring up to 2k in this regard. But it should quickly and cheerfully bounce, if it is. So I advise you to cook bucks. If you have them of course))

In general, weekly ma 200 (about $ 3000) cannot be broken through weekly closure. By this, I think that everything below 3k will bounce cheerfully.

Thanks for sharing.

Does anyone know what he means about the 50-day and 200-day MAs? I don't see why they'd be relevant here (except the 200-day being a selling target). It sounds like he's alluding to a death cross, but that death cross already happened back in April.

I've been making the same assumption about the 200-week MA. Hopefully we're both right! Lips sealed

In his text regarding "Cross pizdos", he refers to stock markets (ma50 and ma200). Not sure which specific stocks he means, but he speaks about stocks.
And... don't ask me for literal translation of fabulous "cross-pizdos" expression Grin. But in fact you got the meaning right anyway Smiley

One another correction to translation above: "cook bucks" == "get your dollars ready".
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