Topic: Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II - page 26. (Read 8182 times)

I'll be going for Anthony Joshua again, just like I did in the first match up. I think Joshua would definitely win this game, he was overconfident the last and that exactly was what made lose, he had underestimated Ruiz. He'd have learnt his lessons already.

I am going for Ruiz here.

Joshua will be more focused in this fight and will no longer underestimate his opponent but the confidence of Ruiz coming into this fight from knocking out the former champ will be immense.

It's a long wait before the fight, I hope no injuries happen to both fighters while training.

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We may want to recall how Lennox Lewis lost to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman in his first fights with them. His losses were completely unexpected by KO's (especially with the latter). So it came as no surprise that he overwhelmed them in the rematches as the losses made him only stronger. This is not the case with Joshua as he seemed reluctant to fight in the last rounds after the first knockdown by Ruiz, and lost more psychologically than physically, the meaning being that it may be very hard for him to recover. Basically, he surrendered, and it looked like he was no more interested in boxing anymore (just like Mike Tyson after the loss to Lennox Lewis in 2002, whatever fights he had after that)

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We may want to recall how Lennox Lewis lost to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman in his first fights with them. His losses were completely unexpected by KO's (especially with Rahman). So it came as no surprise that he massively overwhelmed them both in the subsequent rematches as the losses made him only stronger

This is not the case with Joshua as he seemed reluctant to continue fighting in the last rounds after the first knockdown by Ruiz (who visibly showed balls after being almost downed himself), and lost more psychologically than physically to his opponent, the meaning being that it may be very difficult for him to recover, psychologically

Technically, he wasn't knocked out but rather surrendered, and it looked like he was no more interested in boxing at all just like Mike Tyson after the loss to Lennox Lewis in 2002 (whatever fights he had afterwards) or even Lennox himself after the elder Klitchko (unlike Tyson, he knew better and retired)


He may be stronger as far as physical conditions are concerned, but in boxing it is not all and far from being all. Judging by his fight with Ruiz, Joshua didn't show himself as a tough fighter at all, the Corrie Sanders style (or even the elder Klitchko who proved he could withstand a lot of heavy beating)

We knew boxing very well,and the two fighters are only waiting for a “Single” good punch to bring opponent to defeat so more or less its either Joshua will mak Ruiz end the reign or Ruiz will seat another time to have the belt
Same will Ruiz will do as well,being defending champion is a defensive position and Joshua must break the def before he can earn that belt
He needs Knockout for me to have the win or else it will favor for Ruiz again

Anthony Joshua is more strong than Andy Ruiz and in this second match Joshna will be hot favorite to win this one. Also the odds suggests the same.
There are still around 100 days before we get to see the most anticipated event.

If you ask me, i would say the first match was staged report also confirmed Anthony Joshua made alot of money from that match and who knows he might have placed a big money bet against himself through someone.  Joshua is far better than Andy Ruiz both physically and in their fighting skills so if this match don't get staged like the previous I don't think Andy Euiz can have a chance against our Joshua. He's a Nigerian, he's my pick any day any time. He has proven himself to be one of the best in the business so I foresee him winning.

He's more aggressive to redeem himself from this sport proving that he's still the champ after that KO, while ruiz needs to depend himself to continue holding his belts, there's  always a catch from this fight remember when Thurman and Pacquiao open the odds, it's favoring Thurman and lucky to those who able to bet earlier as they won bigger than to those who bets when it's already closer to the fight night.

It's really tempting but I have a doubt with the odds of Ruiz if betting with some serious money, if I do it for fun, maybe I would bet a little for Ruiz to win.
Joshua is the better fighter prior to the fight but he got careless, this rematch, for sure he will not be aggressive and he will just beat Ruiz through scoring since he is in taller and he has a better reach.

Certainly, a single loss does not or should not determine the rest of your fights. But to a lot of fighters there is an indelible psychological effect of their first loss, and for this matter Joshua's American debut as well. This is going to be a very big deal of a fight for Joshua. I am looking at it as his single opportunity to be able to regain the direction of his boxing career. His loss might mean a boxing career spiraling down.
 
On the technical side, I think Joshua needs to give more jabs and maximize his reach advantage. Ruiz has penetrated a lot in their first fight.

I will have to wait and see before finally deciding to whom my bet goes.  

Yup, one time lost doesn't mean that AJ is done. Considering he didn't get a severe injury, he unlikely to be "punch drunk."
However, as bettor, 2-3x for Ruiz looks pretty tempting in this situation.

For me they don't have an equal chance, Joshua being a challenger has a better chance of winning because he is the favorites in any sportsbook, when sportsbook makes odds, they know which player is better and the fact that people still think that the last fight was an upset or Ruiz got lucky, he needs to prove it twice and Joshua would not allow that to happen again.

It's obviously Joshua will so curious to defeat Ruiz because on the first fight there was a speculation that Joshua underestimate Ruiz and he was lost so he have to going back from his latest lost and it's necessary to restore Joshua mental but since this fight held on december then i will wait until near of fight to decide which boxers should i pick because in my view both of boxers have equal chance to became the winner of this fight

I will also go with Andy Ruiz in this rematch, for a fact that he really destroyed Joshua that night. He has good chin and can take Joshua's best punch so I doubt that there will be changes in the second fight. For sure Joshua will be the aggressor here, but we have seen that Ruiz has a good defence and once he hits Joshua again, the memories of the first fight will comeback and haunt him.

Both arguments are correct as both fighters have an extra motivation. Ruiz wants to prove he isn't a one hit wonder and Joshua wants to redeem himself.

Honestly this is a massive gamble in the most random sense of the word. I can really go both ways. Im going to stretch this one as much as possible before making any moves. Let's see what Vegas is saying come December. What I know is that in Vegas many people hate Ruiz now because he dried a ton of wallets which were betting on yet another easy night by betting on a Joshua win. We just can't sleep on Ruiz, guy has a chin and seems to benefit from being shorter. Taller guys just means a bigger target.

This will be a rematch for the ages I believe and no walk in the park for the Mexican "Destroyer" Ruiz in Saudi Arabia
The odds favor AJ to regain his belts 



https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/anthony-joshua-v-andy-ruiz-jr/winner

I'll go for Andy Ruiz, he is technically a superior fighter than Joshua, can take a punch, very fast hands, can go toe to toe, Joshua is going to be in real trouble, all of Joshua's opponent is afraid of him, but not Ruiz after the knockdown he got up and knock him down and Joshua is never the same again, he will never be the same again when they meet again.

If you are fighting as a champion even if you are picking and choosing your opponents there is no point in making excuses that he was not prepared as one punch could literally change the fight in the heavy weight division and everyone knows to throw a punch, he was defeated because Andy Ruiz was much technically sound and faster than Anthony Joshua expected and i hope he will be better prepared next time.

If Joshua is training hard so is Ruiz yes it is upset but it's not a lucky punch, it's a total dominance and superiority, it would have been better if it is a one-punch wonder, but it's not, Ruiz dominated Joshua and he is not even afraid to go toe to toe, I'm sure he will do a hit and run tactics no way he can win by going toe to toe.

It could be a good strategy, just used his reach and try to win every round. But I have doubts that Joshua will do that. I mean he just lost his belt and probably lost his biggest payday with the Wilder fight which have been plan for many years. I'm sure he will be careful, but at the back of his mind he needs to win impressively to get back in track and pursue a Wilder and Fury match that will bring more money for him.