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August 30, 2019, 10:26:53 PM
Eddie Hearn tells Anthony Joshua to ‘snap out of it’ over disillusion with boxing ahead of Andy Ruiz rematch

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/anthony-joshua-vs-andy-ruiz-rematch-eddie-hearn-snap-out-of-it-saudi-arabia-disillusion-a9083196.html

Former heavyweight champion has displayed a notable change in direction since his shock defeat and Hearn believes it will be no more Mr Nice Guy when the Saudi Arabia rematch takes place
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August 30, 2019, 07:23:00 AM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley
Ruiz winning is very necessary to cement his legacy, most people are still claiming that his initial win against Anthony Joshua was a fluke win, Tyso Fury recently said that Andy Ruiz is definitely going to win the rematch and i think should he win, they should set him uo against either Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury himself.

I agree when Fury said that Ruiz is going to win, Ruiz is not a fatsy, he has more than 100 amateur fights and only fewer losses, and in his professional fights, his only lost and that's a very controversial lost with Parker, Joshua give up the fight because he cannot take his punch, I don't know what kind of strategy will he use against, Ruiz.
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August 30, 2019, 04:35:56 AM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley

If he wins, then the next logical choice, Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. Joshua will be relegated to the fourth spot and needs some time before he can recover from the second lost.

Except these 3 boxers, who is on +/- same level with Ruiz today ?

I also read that interview about Fury favouring him against Joshua in this rematch. Was surprise though, anyways he said that Ruiz is mentality prepared here and that the weather conditions is favourable to him as well as he live in Cali wherein the weather is hot.

It makes me think, that Fury wants to face Ruiz, as he thinks he is weaker than Joshua and it will be more easy fight for him.
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August 30, 2019, 03:57:33 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
I think AJ is not thinking of that possibility because he is so confident in this fight.

Well, if he losses, his career will be as not as bright as it was but if he can fight an opponent with a good standing in his division and win, maybe he will be back again. Just like Manny Pacquiao who loss against Jeff Horn but Manny were able to rise again by defeating another boxer and Jeff Horn was defeated by Crawford a great boxer as well, so that could scenario possibly happen if AJ will continue to work to get back in the top and he does not need to face Ruiz again.

I think the comparison is very bad, you cannot compare Horn to Ruiz, Ruiz is undiscovered gem I check all his past fights and he is so good very past hands, strong punch and can always take a punch, in fact, he should be undefeated now, he was just cheated in his only loss.

I'll still go for Ruiz for this fight, he can take Joshua's punch while Joshua can't take his punch.
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August 30, 2019, 02:50:58 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
I think AJ is not thinking of that possibility because he is so confident in this fight.

Well, if he losses, his career will be as not as bright as it was but if he can fight an opponent with a good standing in his division and win, maybe he will be back again. Just like Manny Pacquiao who loss against Jeff Horn but Manny were able to rise again by defeating another boxer and Jeff Horn was defeated by Crawford a great boxer as well, so that could scenario possibly happen if AJ will continue to work to get back in the top and he does not need to face Ruiz again.
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August 30, 2019, 02:33:40 AM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley
Ruiz winning is very necessary to cement his legacy, most people are still claiming that his initial win against Anthony Joshua was a fluke win, Tyso Fury recently said that Andy Ruiz is definitely going to win the rematch and i think should he win, they should set him uo against either Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury himself.
That's why this match is very crucial for both of them. Ruiz winning will cement his legacy and will probably in the discussion for a possible reunification with the Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder. Or he can go and fight the next best heavyweight and make money for him.

I also read that interview about Fury favouring him against Joshua in this rematch. Was surprise though, anyways he said that Ruiz is mentality prepared here and that the weather conditions is favourable to him as well as he live in Cali wherein the weather is hot.
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August 30, 2019, 01:57:38 AM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley
Ruiz winning is very necessary to cement his legacy, most people are still claiming that his initial win against Anthony Joshua was a fluke win, Tyso Fury recently said that Andy Ruiz is definitely going to win the rematch and i think should he win, they should set him uo against either Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury himself.
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August 29, 2019, 09:52:22 PM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
If the game will turn against Joshua then the possibility of him start all over again will be there. But am not seeing this rematch be in favor of Andy rather in favor of Joshua, Joshua will just need to intensify on his strike against Andy to win on this rematch.
If everything will work out for Joshua then boxing fans will expect for another rematch as a deciding game for this two fighters, most of the fans will be eyeing for him as he's more on the aggressive side of this fight, though Ruiz knock him down the momentum still on his side to win back his title, still have to prove it as there's many speculations around regarding to this rematch.

Many ideas came in a positive vision on specific fighter, but we should count on to the live fight and that's the true spirit of a true fighter. Beating an opponent is the only goal for this sport, so when rematch will happen it's not guaranteed 100% assurance to defeat your match fighter again.
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August 29, 2019, 06:47:45 PM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
If the game will turn against Joshua then the possibility of him start all over again will be there. But am not seeing this rematch be in favor of Andy rather in favor of Joshua, Joshua will just need to intensify on his strike against Andy to win on this rematch.
If everything will work out for Joshua then boxing fans will expect for another rematch as a deciding game for this two fighters, most of the fans will be eyeing for him as he's more on the aggressive side of this fight, though Ruiz knock him down the momentum still on his side to win back his title, still have to prove it as there's many speculations around regarding to this rematch.
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August 29, 2019, 06:24:13 PM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley

If he wins, then the next logical choice, Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder. Joshua will be relegated to the fourth spot and needs some time before he can recover from the second lost.

Eddie Hearn: Andy Ruiz-Anthony Joshua 2 will be one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U982yGnWX30

Hearn likens the upcoming heavyweight rematch to the ‘Thrilla in Manila’ and the ‘Rumble in the Jungle.’
He sure does like that MIDDLE EASTERN money  Grin

Definitely, that Middle Eastern money would flow in this fight. But I don't think that it is comparable to those two epic fights. Both fighters haven't reach the stature of Ali, Frazier or Foreman. Just typical boxing manager promoting and hyping his fight.
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August 29, 2019, 01:24:02 PM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
If the game will turn against Joshua then the possibility of him start all over again will be there. But am not seeing this rematch be in favor of Andy rather in favor of Joshua, Joshua will just need to intensify on his strike against Andy to win on this rematch.
We know the high chances of that kind of comeback but its really hard to conclude things up because we cant completely say that Joshua will definitely win this rematch.
Chances of 2nd beat up is still there and if thats the case would happen once again then i wont make any comment on how Joshua would start up on scratch once again.
Thought of 1st fight to be a fluke? No it isnt.
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August 29, 2019, 01:13:05 PM
Imagine Ruiz wins - who do you think is going to be his next victim or which belt will he aim to get next? Smiley
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August 29, 2019, 10:39:45 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
If the game will turn against Joshua then the possibility of him start all over again will be there. But am not seeing this rematch be in favor of Andy rather in favor of Joshua, Joshua will just need to intensify on his strike against Andy to win on this rematch.
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August 29, 2019, 09:31:37 AM
It was just confirmed that the fight is going on December 7th in Saudi Arabia. Tons of huge fights comming on there. Khabib's next fight is in Abu Dabbi. Big moves in the fight game by the middle east...

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Matchroom Sport has officially confirmed that the anticipated rematch between Andy Ruiz and Anthony Joshua will take place on December 7th in Diriyah, Saudi Arabia.

Eddie Hearn of Matchroom will hold a press conference this coming Monday in London, to discuss the details of the event.

The card is being called "Clash on The Dunes."



Who are you going with? I see Joshua actually showing up with some balls and focus that night and getting the job done to redeem himself, which will make the Wilder vs Joshua/Tyson vs Joshua fight relevant again.

As much as I want Andy to win again because he is such a likeable guy and a hardworker, I don't really see it. I mean if Ruiz knocks the fuck out Joshua's chin again then it's pretty much over, he should retire. I think he is aware of this fact and he isn't going to let this happen twice. I give Joshua an 8th round KO. But this is an extremely risky bet. Honeslty im not even sure if I want to get involved in this one. Ruiz can really pull it again. I want to see the odds before I make a decision.
yes I agree with you, this fight is quite balanced and highly anticipated. prestige fight which must be carried out by Joshua the article he had lost and knocked out by the ruiz. And I'm sure Joshua won't repeat the same mistake then.
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August 29, 2019, 09:16:29 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
Good question if AJ were to lose to AR for the second straight time, there is no way we could call it a 'fluke'
I believe that AJ still has a long contract so his promotion in the UK will be able to get him more fights but they wont be in the range of 20m
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August 29, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?

He doesn't have the luxury to choose his opponent anymore if he losses to Ruiz in their rematch, he is not going to retire of course if he losses the fight again but it will be a very hard climb again to the top and he might replace his team if he losses to Ruiz again, this rematch is so important to Joshua that his career and livelihood very much depends on this fight.

Joshua can do all the talking but Ruiz is a big task to hurdle after Ruiz won the match I've check most of his fight and I can say it's not upset because  Ruiz is so good at beating big men and he always has an edge in power and speed.
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August 29, 2019, 08:00:42 AM
What would Joshue do, if he loses to Ruiz for the second time ? Who should be Joshua' s next opponent if he loses in his 2 last fights ?
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August 28, 2019, 03:26:44 PM
Eddie Hearn: Andy Ruiz-Anthony Joshua 2 will be one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U982yGnWX30

Hearn likens the upcoming heavyweight rematch to the ‘Thrilla in Manila’ and the ‘Rumble in the Jungle.’
He sure does like that MIDDLE EASTERN money  Grin
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August 28, 2019, 02:57:21 PM

He's gonna go in there knowing it's not in his favor man, and realistically he won't change up his style in a few months. Ruiz will probably win again.
The last time I checked AJ spent his time training after their previous fight while Ruiz spent his time having vacation, doing advert, interview etc. It easy to get to the top mate but maintaining the top spot is the hardest task.
Mind you, freedom/good life was the major thing that lead to the down fall of many.


A month or two break won't damage Ruiz. Anthony Joshua wasn't even fresh for their first fight, hadn't fought in around 6 months until they met.

Ruiz had just come off a win, which means he's already had plenty of training. It's not like he's going to cut a lot of weight for the next fight, he'll turn up exactly the same fat as hell, but his counterpunching will still be there ready for when Joshua tries to go in for the kill.
You said that cause you love Ruiz but I want you to know that you or myself won't be the judge or referee of their rematch. However, I will advise you to try and watch Anthony interviews after his lost to Ruiz, you'll understand how well he realize his mistakes and how he's ready to give Ruiz what he deceive when they have the rematch.


It is nice to see that all of these rich groups have agreed to finalized terms and no need for lawsuit

Andy Ruiz Jr. has signed paperwork for Anthony Joshua to finalize rematch
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/08/andy-ruiz-jr-has-signed-paperwork-for-anthony-joshua-to-finalize-rematch/


Lol, did he just wait for the lawsuit to be filled and then accept the bribe offer the next day? Or did they make a new contract to give Andy Ruiz more money as previously stated in their contract? Now it's time to go back to the gym for him and show the boxing fans that he is another name in the Heavyweight division besides the big three right now.

Ruiz will go in there with the mindset that he can win, Joshua will go in there as a beaten man.
AJ may go as a beaten man but he have learn from his previous mistakes and the statement made by Ruiz on social media will make him a dead man in the upcoming rematch.


No matter what he says about winning this fight 9/10 times, that loss has to play heavily on your mind. I mean, Ruiz dominated him last time, it wasn't a lucky shot to the temple like he claims.
You can say that again but most people knew Anthony underrate Ruiz in their first fight, he also skip training and I believe you ought to understand that either by watching the fight cause he was too relaxed during the fight.


He's gonna go in there knowing it's not in his favor man, and realistically he won't change up his style in a few months. Ruiz will probably win again.
The last time I checked AJ spent his time training after their previous fight while Ruiz spent his time having vacation, doing advert, interview etc. It easy to get to the top mate but maintaining the top spot is the hardest task.
Mind you, freedom/good life was the major thing that lead to the down fall of many.


It is hard to be at the top but I feel like every time a top fighter gets beaten after being undefeated for so long, they just start losing more and more. It happens to a lot of good fighters, I'm sure there is some psychological factor to it too.
Like you said, there's psychological factors to it and losing more and more is for fighter which couldn't learn from his previous mistakes and train hard. When it come to Anthony, he control his emotions, stick to train and stay focus.
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August 27, 2019, 07:27:13 PM
It is nice to see that all of these rich groups have agreed to finalized terms and no need for lawsuit

Andy Ruiz Jr. has signed paperwork for Anthony Joshua to finalize rematch
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/08/andy-ruiz-jr-has-signed-paperwork-for-anthony-joshua-to-finalize-rematch/


Lol, did he just wait for the lawsuit to be filled and then accept the bribe offer the next day? Or did they make a new contract to give Andy Ruiz more money as previously stated in their contract? Now it's time to go back to the gym for him and show the boxing fans that he is another name in the Heavyweight division besides the big three right now.

Ruiz will go in there with the mindset that he can win, Joshua will go in there as a beaten man.
AJ may go as a beaten man but he have learn from his previous mistakes and the statement made by Ruiz on social media will make him a dead man in the upcoming rematch.


No matter what he says about winning this fight 9/10 times, that loss has to play heavily on your mind. I mean, Ruiz dominated him last time, it wasn't a lucky shot to the temple like he claims.
You can say that again but most people knew Anthony underrate Ruiz in their first fight, he also skip training and I believe you ought to understand that either by watching the fight cause he was too relaxed during the fight.


He's gonna go in there knowing it's not in his favor man, and realistically he won't change up his style in a few months. Ruiz will probably win again.
The last time I checked AJ spent his time training after their previous fight while Ruiz spent his time having vacation, doing advert, interview etc. It easy to get to the top mate but maintaining the top spot is the hardest task.
Mind you, freedom/good life was the major thing that lead to the down fall of many.


It is hard to be at the top but I feel like every time a top fighter gets beaten after being undefeated for so long, they just start losing more and more. It happens to a lot of good fighters, I'm sure there is some psychological factor to it too.
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