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Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2019, 08:20:15 AM

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Joshua admits he was distracted before boxing Ruiz by constant talk of what was a highly anticipated showdown with Wilder. The former champion answered countless questions during the buildup toward the Ruiz fight about previous Wilder negotiations, why Wilder turned down a four-fight, $120 million contract offer from DAZN and what it would take for them to finally fight.

So it looks like Joshua learn from his mistakes during the first fight. He admitted that he was thinking ahead of the Wilder clash and the huge money in the table. But first, he needs to get that belt back from Ruiz and he should win convincingly so that he will be in the discussions with Fury, Wilder.

It was really an eye opener for him, he shouldn't underestimate someone and overlook them and think that you can win easily and go on the next big money fights on the line.

He looks very thin and light on that picture though, maybe he wanted to be quick, however, he may loss some punching power here and his chin might not hold up again if Ruiz could hit him up with hooks.

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Joshua admits he was distracted before boxing Ruiz by constant talk of what was a highly anticipated showdown with Wilder. The former champion answered countless questions during the buildup toward the Ruiz fight about previous Wilder negotiations, why Wilder turned down a four-fight, $120 million contract offer from DAZN and what it would take for them to finally fight.

So it looks like Joshua learn from his mistakes during the first fight. He admitted that he was thinking ahead of the Wilder clash and the huge money in the table. But first, he needs to get that belt back from Ruiz and he should win convincingly so that he will be in the discussions with Fury, Wilder.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 07, 2019, 03:25:39 AM

Joshua Vows Not To Make Mistake of "Rushing" The KO of Ruiz

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Anthony Joshua insists he will not make the same "little mistake" against Andy Ruiz Jr a second time around after a lack of patience cost him his heavyweight titles.

Ruiz stunned the boxing world back in June when he stopped overwhelming favourite Joshua at Madison Square Garden in New York, in the process securing the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBO belts.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-vows-not-make-mistake-rushing-ko-ruiz--142333

I wouldn't call that a little mistakes though, he really underestimate Ruiz Jr and that his first mistake. He had dropped opponents before, but he immediately take them out in the next couple of rounds. But with Ruiz Jr though, it's very different. Although Andy was down in the 3rd, he quickly got up, it's more of a flush knock down that's why he was able to recover very quick and put Joshua down in the same round and it's over for him in the 7th.

I wouldn't call it a little mistake either because a lot of his fan like myself actually lost some fund when he also lost his championship title but it good to know that he has realized his mistake and ready to do every possible to get back what Ruiz took from him. Besides, I really respect Anthony level of understanding and discipline.

Right. That's why not just for Joshua, but all fighters shouldn't underestimate their opponents because once they do, they could really lose like the one we have seen in the first fight. No one has given Andy Ruiz a chance, majority thought that this is an easy fight for Joshua. But Ruiz put him in the canvass and he wasn't the same fighter after the third round. But this time, based on interviews, Ruiz is oozing with confidence that can backfire on him. Joshua did understand what went wrong with him in the first fight and knowing his ring IQ and discipline, he won't allow the same thing happen again in this rematch.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 07, 2019, 03:25:39 AM

Joshua Vows Not To Make Mistake of "Rushing" The KO of Ruiz

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Anthony Joshua insists he will not make the same "little mistake" against Andy Ruiz Jr a second time around after a lack of patience cost him his heavyweight titles.

Ruiz stunned the boxing world back in June when he stopped overwhelming favourite Joshua at Madison Square Garden in New York, in the process securing the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBO belts.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-vows-not-make-mistake-rushing-ko-ruiz--142333

I wouldn't call that a little mistakes though, he really underestimate Ruiz Jr and that his first mistake. He had dropped opponents before, but he immediately take them out in the next couple of rounds. But with Ruiz Jr though, it's very different. Although Andy was down in the 3rd, he quickly got up, it's more of a flush knock down that's why he was able to recover very quick and put Joshua down in the same round and it's over for him in the 7th.

Agreed. Also, some of the people might have forgotten the first fight to predict that it would be another easy fight for Andy Ruiz hehehe. It was not a dominant performance and he was also knocked down for the first time in his career.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 07, 2019, 03:25:39 AM

Joshua Vows Not To Make Mistake of "Rushing" The KO of Ruiz

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Anthony Joshua insists he will not make the same "little mistake" against Andy Ruiz Jr a second time around after a lack of patience cost him his heavyweight titles.

Ruiz stunned the boxing world back in June when he stopped overwhelming favourite Joshua at Madison Square Garden in New York, in the process securing the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBO belts.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-vows-not-make-mistake-rushing-ko-ruiz--142333

I wouldn't call that a little mistakes though, he really underestimate Ruiz Jr and that his first mistake. He had dropped opponents before, but he immediately take them out in the next couple of rounds. But with Ruiz Jr though, it's very different. Although Andy was down in the 3rd, he quickly got up, it's more of a flush knock down that's why he was able to recover very quick and put Joshua down in the same round and it's over for him in the 7th.

I wouldn't call it a little mistake either because a lot of his fan like myself actually lost some fund when he also lost his championship title but it good to know that he has realized his mistake and ready to do every possible to get back what Ruiz took from him. Besides, I really respect Anthony level of understanding and discipline.

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Joshua Vows Not To Make Mistake of "Rushing" The KO of Ruiz

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Anthony Joshua insists he will not make the same "little mistake" against Andy Ruiz Jr a second time around after a lack of patience cost him his heavyweight titles.

Ruiz stunned the boxing world back in June when he stopped overwhelming favourite Joshua at Madison Square Garden in New York, in the process securing the IBF, WBA, IBO and WBO belts.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-vows-not-make-mistake-rushing-ko-ruiz--142333

I wouldn't call that a little mistakes though, he really underestimate Ruiz Jr and that his first mistake. He had dropped opponents before, but he immediately take them out in the next couple of rounds. But with Ruiz Jr though, it's very different. Although Andy was down in the 3rd, he quickly got up, it's more of a flush knock down that's why he was able to recover very quick and put Joshua down in the same round and it's over for him in the 7th.

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This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

That's likely what he is going to do because he knows Ruiz has a short reach and move slowly, he cannot slug it out with Ruiz, because Ruiz is strong has fast hands, the worst thing that he'll do is to slug it out with Ruiz, if he can do that he can win by decision, but he is a challenger and a challenger should bring the fight to the champion and not the other way around.

I think Joshua will try to slug it out with Ruiz but he will be more careful this time. Last fight his left hand is down in the early rounds that's why Ruiz is hitting him 1-2 before he will move. So that's one adjustment that Joshua will do in this rematch. He needs to take it to Ruiz and should let his hands go more and be active if he wanted to win by decision and be the aggressor.

Joshua already feel how strong Ruiz is, he doesn't need to fight toe to toe, he just have to play smart as the advantage is already in him.
The height, the length, and the speed, he all has that in him, it's just left to him on how he manage himself to win this fight, it doesn't need to be convincing, he just need to win this rematch in any way.

For it to be convincing he needs to totally dominate Ruiz, remember he is now the challenger, he must take the fight to the champion and be the aggressor here, he cannot just do a hit and run stuff, he has no luxury to do that now, now that he is the challenger.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 06, 2019, 05:01:22 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 06, 2019, 04:14:00 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 09, 2019, 03:50:57 PM

This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

That's likely what he is going to do because he knows Ruiz has a short reach and move slowly, he cannot slug it out with Ruiz, because Ruiz is strong has fast hands, the worst thing that he'll do is to slug it out with Ruiz, if he can do that he can win by decision, but he is a challenger and a challenger should bring the fight to the champion and not the other way around.

I think Joshua will try to slug it out with Ruiz but he will be more careful this time. Last fight his left hand is down in the early rounds that's why Ruiz is hitting him 1-2 before he will move. So that's one adjustment that Joshua will do in this rematch. He needs to take it to Ruiz and should let his hands go more and be active if he wanted to win by decision and be the aggressor.

Joshua already feel how strong Ruiz is, he doesn't need to fight toe to toe, he just have to play smart as the advantage is already in him.
The height, the length, and the speed, he all has that in him, it's just left to him on how he manage himself to win this fight, it doesn't need to be convincing, he just need to win this rematch in any way.

Indeed, all that matters for Joshua now is a win, convincing or not it does not matter.

He got all the attributes of a heavyweight boxer, the size and speed are all in Joshua, i think he just need to prepare for his one mentally and forget that one time in his career that he was beaten by this guy.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 06, 2019, 12:41:51 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

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Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

he was lucky if he caught Joshua and knock him out in one punch we can call that one-punch wonder, just like what happened in the Douglas Tyson fight, but he was outboxed and out punch and he cannot take the punch that he needs to save himself and give up, of course he can go back and had a chance to win but Ruiz is one big puncher also and he can take Joshua's punch.

Joshua knew it already that he was no match to Ruiz if he wants to fight him face to face since the Ruiz was a big guy he might have a hard time to break him. It is better for Joshua play smart rather than forcing it with his own physical strength, if Joshua could outsmart Ruiz then may the odds favor him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 06, 2019, 04:14:00 PM

Quote from: robelneo on September 06, 2019, 11:57:49 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 09, 2019, 03:50:57 PM

This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

That's likely what he is going to do because he knows Ruiz has a short reach and move slowly, he cannot slug it out with Ruiz, because Ruiz is strong has fast hands, the worst thing that he'll do is to slug it out with Ruiz, if he can do that he can win by decision, but he is a challenger and a challenger should bring the fight to the champion and not the other way around.

I think Joshua will try to slug it out with Ruiz but he will be more careful this time. Last fight his left hand is down in the early rounds that's why Ruiz is hitting him 1-2 before he will move. So that's one adjustment that Joshua will do in this rematch. He needs to take it to Ruiz and should let his hands go more and be active if he wanted to win by decision and be the aggressor.

Joshua already feel how strong Ruiz is, he doesn't need to fight toe to toe, he just have to play smart as the advantage is already in him.
The height, the length, and the speed, he all has that in him, it's just left to him on how he manage himself to win this fight, it doesn't need to be convincing, he just need to win this rematch in any way.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 06, 2019, 11:57:49 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 09, 2019, 03:50:57 PM

This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

That's likely what he is going to do because he knows Ruiz has a short reach and move slowly, he cannot slug it out with Ruiz, because Ruiz is strong has fast hands, the worst thing that he'll do is to slug it out with Ruiz, if he can do that he can win by decision, but he is a challenger and a challenger should bring the fight to the champion and not the other way around.

I think Joshua will try to slug it out with Ruiz but he will be more careful this time. Last fight his left hand is down in the early rounds that's why Ruiz is hitting him 1-2 before he will move. So that's one adjustment that Joshua will do in this rematch. He needs to take it to Ruiz and should let his hands go more and be active if he wanted to win by decision and be the aggressor.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

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Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

I was among those that believed Andy Ruiz was during his first fight with Anthony but it all happens because of Anthony and his camp ignorance and underrating Ruiz because of his shape.
If you watch the videos posted by Anthony on his social account, you'll understand that he's doing every possible to amend his previous mistakes.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 09, 2019, 03:50:57 PM

This rematch is just a formality that the time of Andy Ruiz holding the belt is over. I can't see a chance that he would win the rematch as Joshua will be more careful this time and he need not to slug it out with Ruiz, just score points and he will win the fight.

That's likely what he is going to do because he knows Ruiz has a short reach and move slowly, he cannot slug it out with Ruiz, because Ruiz is strong has fast hands, the worst thing that he'll do is to slug it out with Ruiz, if he can do that he can win by decision, but he is a challenger and a challenger should bring the fight to the champion and not the other way around.

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Quote from: Jating on September 06, 2019, 01:37:59 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

Odds from Nitrogensports
Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

Because Joshua can still salvage his career by winning the rematch and bookies know that. But that fat guy has a solid chin and really can punch.

Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

I wouldn't call that lucky though, he was also knock down by Joshua in the third round if I'm not mistaken but he quickly recovered and knock down Joshua in the same round. Perhaps it was faith for Ruiz to win to became the first Mexican heavyweight that night. But surely, the guy can fight, can recover quickly and has power in both hands.

There was a little bit of 'luck' involved, it was more like Joshua thinking he would have an easy win after the first knock down. I mean, you just knocked your opponent in round 3, I believe, of course you are thinking, bah, easy win, he got knocked down in the same round, very likely because of that. Afterwards, however, he did get outboxed.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

Odds from Nitrogensports
Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

Because Joshua can still salvage his career by winning the rematch and bookies know that. But that fat guy has a solid chin and really can punch.

Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

I wouldn't call that lucky though, he was also knock down by Joshua in the third round if I'm not mistaken but he quickly recovered and knock down Joshua in the same round. Perhaps it was faith for Ruiz to win to became the first Mexican heavyweight that night. But surely, the guy can fight, can recover quickly and has power in both hands.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 05, 2019, 06:27:09 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

Odds from Nitrogensports
Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

he was lucky if he caught Joshua and knock him out in one punch we can call that one-punch wonder, just like what happened in the Douglas Tyson fight, but he was outboxed and out punch and he cannot take the punch that he needs to save himself and give up, of course he can go back and had a chance to win but Ruiz is one big puncher also and he can take Joshua's punch.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 05:51:02 PM

Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

Odds from Nitrogensports
Anthony Joshua -308
Andy Ruiz +244

Great odds for Andy Ruiz and I think that would not change because despite AJ lose in the past fight, people still think he can come back and beat this fat guy, actually I think the looks and built of Andy Ruiz is what people are looking and he got disrespected on that.

The line now is what people's perception on the coming fight, so it's obvious that people believes the Andy Ruiz was just lucky in the last fight.

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It is nice to see that all of these rich groups have agreed to finalized terms and no need for lawsuit

Andy Ruiz Jr. has signed paperwork for Anthony Joshua to finalize rematch
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/08/andy-ruiz-jr-has-signed-paperwork-for-anthony-joshua-to-finalize-rematch/

Lol, did he just wait for the lawsuit to be filled and then accept the ~~bribe~~ offer the next day? Or did they make a new contract to give Andy Ruiz more money as previously stated in their contract? Now it's time to go back to the gym for him and show the boxing fans that he is another name in the Heavyweight division besides the big three right now.

Ruiz will go in there with the mindset that he can win, Joshua will go in there as a beaten man.

AJ may go as a beaten man but he have learn from his previous mistakes and the statement made by Ruiz on social media will make him a dead man in the upcoming rematch.

Quote from: DarkDays on August 25, 2019, 04:39:07 PM

No matter what he says about winning this fight 9/10 times, that loss has to play heavily on your mind. I mean, Ruiz dominated him last time, it wasn't a lucky shot to the temple like he claims.

You can say that again but most people knew Anthony underrate Ruiz in their first fight, he also skip training and I believe you ought to understand that either by watching the fight cause he was too relaxed during the fight.

Quote from: DarkDays on August 25, 2019, 04:39:07 PM

He's gonna go in there knowing it's not in his favor man, and realistically he won't change up his style in a few months. Ruiz will probably win again.

The last time I checked AJ spent his time training after their previous fight while Ruiz spent his time having vacation, doing advert, interview etc. It easy to get to the top mate but maintaining the top spot is the hardest task.
Mind you, freedom/good life was the major thing that lead to the down fall of many.

It is hard to be at the top but I feel like every time a top fighter gets beaten after being undefeated for so long, they just start losing more and more. It happens to a lot of good fighters, I'm sure there is some psychological factor to it too.

Like you said, there's psychological factors to it and losing more and more is for fighter which couldn't learn from his previous mistakes and train hard. When it come to Anthony, he control his emotions, stick to train and stay focus.

There would be always that psychological factor specially when you are undefeated and suddenly you do able to get your first lose ever but i dont believe in the things like continous losing after that because self made realization will happen eventually and not all boxers who are on that state would having that same kind` of mentality which means recovery and serious catch up and dedication will follow next because pride is the main thing been talking on here.He got beaten but he would take it back for sure.

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Its not surprising that Anthony Joshua is ahead of Andy Ruiz even when Andy Ruiz won the last fight. Many are still thinking he just got lucky on the last fight but I watched it over and over again, Andy Ruiz can stand toe to toe, it just happened the Anthony Joshua got rocked and Andy Ruiz followed up.

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Andy Ruiz +244

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Quote from: mich on August 28, 2019, 03:26:44 PM

Eddie Hearn: Andy Ruiz-Anthony Joshua 2 will be one of the biggest heavyweight fights of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U982yGnWX30

Hearn likens the upcoming heavyweight rematch to the ‘Thrilla in Manila’ and the ‘Rumble in the Jungle.’
He sure does like that MIDDLE EASTERN money Grin

Eddie Hearn like an ICO pumper, I shake my head. Anyone should not believe this promotional overexaggeration. It is bad hype. Thrilla in Manila was a historic fight between 2 great boxers in boxing's golden age. Andy Ruiz versus Anthony Joshua 2 does not equate to that.

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