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Quote from: mich on August 15, 2019, 06:46:04 PM

Eddie Hearn warns Andy Ruiz Jr to honour Saudi venue for Joshua fight

Eddie Hearn has warned Andy Ruiz Jr he must honour the contract for his rematch with Anthony Joshua in Saudi Arabia after the Mexican-American insisted the bout would take place in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/aug/14/eddie-hearn-andy-ruiz-anthony-joshua-rematch-saudi-warns
Ruiz dont want no part of a Saudi Arabia rematch he says bring it back to America

There could be legal battle here if Andy Ruiz doesn't want to go to Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, maybe he just wanted more money, after all he is the champion here. But make no mistake about it, Anthony Joshua here is still the A-side so if I'm Andy Ruiz he should be better moving his ass and fight in Saudi and prove that he fight is no fluke.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

I don't expect that early though, the champ here has a big heart and he will not just easily back down.
It's a more confident Ruiz facing Joshua in this fight as he is the depending champion, he will surely make it hard for Joshua in case Joshua will be able to redeem himself here, but let's just watch, if there's a betting odds for that prediction, might as well put some bet on it.

Good luck.

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Quote from: Capt00 on August 09, 2019, 07:02:47 PM

I will make my prediction once the fight will be near, it gives some insights that both fighters will be preparing for it and have enough time to make it perfectly shaped.

Same here. I don't see some odds yet on the internet. Just the date (December 7) and place (Saudi Arabia). Others' opinions and insights, especially from the sports analysts, will help me decide on whom to place my bet. This may be a rematch but this will be different from their first square-off simply because both fighters will either change or improve their perfomance so that the odds will be on their favor.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 16, 2019, 11:02:06 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

You think that after the victory Ruiz will just relax, train less and eat his favourite snickers? Doubt that. He will also do hard training, to defend his belt.

Ruiz didn't win anything. He is nowhere a match to Anthony Joshua. That match was handed over to him and only the gambling companies can explain what happened. If you know, you know.

I won't stick my dollars in this because I don't know what the game plan is going to be. If it's going be a normal boxing match, I will go for Anthony anytime any day. But I am not sure of anything here.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 16, 2019, 11:17:51 PM

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2019, 09:32:51 PM

Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

It's the promoter who dictate where the fight is held and when both fighters agree, things happened and it's a done deal.
Why not Saudi Arabia? Boxing is not only for Americans and Mexicans, there's a lot of fan based all over the whole, and this fight being held in Saudi Arabia is good in promoting Boxing globally.

You can also read this - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/sport/joshua-ruiz-boxing-saudi-arabia-hearn-spt-intl/index.html

However, it is also open to negotiation, which also opens this to politics. Anthony Joshua wanted the fight to be in London, Andy Ruiz wants it in America. I have not read everything yet, but it appears that the promoter wanted a neutral location to make them sign the deal.

It will be good if the two fighters could come to a conclusion and change the venue of the rematch since the contract is yet to be signed.
@Viscore, promoting boxing globally will be nice but if you have read about what was said to have happened to the tennis star Rafael Nadal you'll also want the venue to be change.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 16, 2019, 02:10:13 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2019, 09:32:51 PM

Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

It's the promoter who dictate where the fight is held and when both fighters agree, things happened and it's a done deal.
Why not Saudi Arabia? Boxing is not only for Americans and Mexicans, there's a lot of fan based all over the whole, and this fight being held in Saudi Arabia is good in promoting Boxing globally.

You can also read this - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/sport/joshua-ruiz-boxing-saudi-arabia-hearn-spt-intl/index.html

However, it is also open to negotiation, which also opens this to politics. Anthony Joshua wanted the fight to be in London, Andy Ruiz wants it in America. I have not read everything yet, but it appears that the promoter wanted a neutral location to make them sign the deal.

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Quote from: proTECH77 on August 16, 2019, 04:40:27 PM

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.

This has been my explanation to my friends but they hadden their ears to my words. In this rematch many gambler will loss to this game because they will like to bet on Andy and at the end Joshua will win the game on the rematch. I seriously lost to the last game and will take the advantage this time to win back my lose.

We can't still be sure of that, Andy proved it in their first fight and it for sure he could possibly make it and hold his breath. What actually Joshua must have to build extra strength in order to beat Ruiz, otherwise, it still is ended of losing this fight again.

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Quote from: vintages on August 16, 2019, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.

This has been my explanation to my friends but they hadden their ears to my words. In this rematch many gambler will loss to this game because they will like to bet on Andy and at the end Joshua will win the game on the rematch. I seriously lost to the last game and will take the advantage this time to win back my lose.

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Quote from: Astargath on August 16, 2019, 01:44:38 PM

These kind of conspiracy theories are always created after a champion is defeated, the truth is that everyone is worse over time, you will eventually lose, it happens to everyone, mike tyson, ali, etc. I don't see why you think Joshua will win this time, he got rekt last time and there is no reason to think he wont be rekt this time too.

We can't be too sure bro. He might take back the title of being the best.
The guy is a long time champion and champions like that don't like being replaced.
On the other hand, Andy who couldn't believe he would defeat Joshua will still want to maintain the new title. Let's hope he don't have the doubt of winning before the game, that alone is enough to make him lose.
I like the two players though, just excited to see what the result will be.

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Quote from: vintages on August 16, 2019, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.

These kind of conspiracy theories are always created after a champion is defeated, the truth is that everyone is worse over time, you will eventually lose, it happens to everyone, mike tyson, ali, etc. I don't see why you think Joshua will win this time, he got rekt last time and there is no reason to think he wont be rekt this time too.

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Quote from: Fedice on August 16, 2019, 11:53:21 AM

Ruiz didn't win anything. He is nowhere a match to Anthony Joshua. That match was handed over to him and only the gambling companies can explain what happened. If you know, you know.

It seems that you didnt even see that match. Doubt that Joshua ate those punches on purpose. Besides, he is a professional athlete and he doesnt need that lose in his boxing record.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

You think that after the victory Ruiz will just relax, train less and eat his favourite snickers? Doubt that. He will also do hard training, to defend his belt.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on August 16, 2019, 08:01:49 AM

Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

I think so too. Joshua might win this match.
Though, many people where saying then that the former game was a made up. There where speculation then that Joshua permitted Ruiz to win as most of the best fighters where not interested to match with him. Thus allowing Andy to have the belts was to spice the game up, more reason he was paid higher than Andy.
I personally can't say how true this is, everyone is interested in seeing what the outcome of this coming game will be.

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Joshua is going to get serious revenge in this rematch, I predict it’ll get stopped within 4 rounds. Joshua has a lot to prove & I think he’ll get his belts back.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2019, 09:32:51 PM

Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

This has nothing to do with fear or scared but the decision if the host ( sponsor's), I think their decision was a good one for the rematch as this will bring the best out of the two boxers when they meet for the fight. Maybe Andy will do what he knows how to do to prove himself worthy of the title.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 10, 2019, 05:49:47 AM

Quote from: carter34 on August 10, 2019, 04:10:40 AM

I think that Joshua would fight hard to redeem himself back again. The African wouldn't not give up easily. He has the strength and resilient to go all out.

That's expected because the first fight was an upset, he was the favorite and this time he will surely still be the favorite.
Can't wait to see the odds of the fight, but I think at this early it's still not available yet, but if you guys see some bookies offering an early odds for this fight, please share in this thread, I'll check it out.

I bet Ruiz will still win this match and I see him as a heavier hitter than Joshua. I think Joshua should avoid being hit by Ruiz but I doubt he can do that since they are both slow. They would all come down to power and stamina when the match drag down the wire.

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Quote from: milewilda on August 12, 2019, 01:20:01 PM

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 09, 2019, 06:07:25 PM

This is a match that difficult to predict, but AJ (1/3) is still more favorable to win this match than Ruiz (9/4). If AJ can prepare and train properly (not like in the previous fight), I think he will win.

I supported your prediction because Ruiz first win was just a fluke.

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He is a champion and it was his first fight in the United Stakes

Which bounty? lol

OK, I'm currently unemployed right now, but your comment is just too good to be ignored. IMO, AJ wasn't fighting with his full ability and looking down to Ruiz. That's why he smiled at the end. He realized his mistakes.

This post should be put up on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.860 lol.

Back to topic,being too overconfident will really just put you into trouble.You would only realize those mistakes after you had beaten. Cheesy

That was an excuse, Joshua has to accept that he loss against Ruiz and should be thankful that Ruiz is a good guy to give him a rematch so he can beat him twice and Joshua would feel that it wasn't luck that made Ruiz won the fight. LOL... I hope that's not gonna happen.

Ruiz is confident too, actually both players are confident but one wrong move could result to a big loss, what Joshua needs to do which I think he already realize is to be more careful in this re match and play smart from the start til the end.

If he would beat up Joshua on 2nd time around then its clear that the first win isnt just a fluke nor being too lucky.Im not sure if there would be a 2nd beat up and i do see AJ will really be careful on their rematch yet he's been too careless on their 1st match.The question is, on where the odds would favor during this fight?
Time to bet for AJ this time.

Ruiz will definitely not beat Anthony because he has learned from the previous fight and I believed he understands perfectly well what he ought to do in the rematch. Besides, look at the below picture of Anthony and you'll understand his reaction about the first fight.

Well anything do happens yet we wont know on what would Ruiz have plans in mind either he would train too hard and wont give out the same moves again against AJ.Looking on the image you do see on his face that he cant believed on what happened.Didnt expect for Ruiz to open or decide to accept the rematch.

I know perfectly well that Ruiz will also be prepared for the rematch but Anthony to Ruiz was due to the act ignorance of his capacity which make him underrated Ruiz as an easy to win opponent and he was shocking seeing himself knockdown.

Quote from: milewilda on August 12, 2019, 01:20:01 PM

Looking on the image you do see on his face that he cant believed on what happened.Didnt expect for Ruiz to open or decide to accept the rematch.

I agreed with what you said because the image expression says "What the heck? This cant be happening" this is why he wants a quick rematch to pleases his fans.

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Quote from: mich on August 15, 2019, 02:18:32 AM

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Tyson Fury Clowns Anthony Joshua For Andy Ruiz Loss
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHfVKCyMbjM

He really is trying to get under his skin if they were to fight again!

LOL, did he call Ruiz a little fat guy? That guy has no respect to the Champion and just trying to promote his fight against Wilder.

Who do you think will generate more sales between the 2 fights?

Yes I believe he did which is lacking respect for the Champ Grin

Both of these fights will generate large profits for all involved but I think there is more money in Saudi Arabia for AJ & AR to share
unless Fury & wilder can fight somewhere for such a large pot

You shouldn't expect him to respect the Ruiz this every moment since they have set the rematch and both sides are to expected to make trash statement about each other in other to generate buzz in the mind of their fans which could also put more money inside their own pocket either.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 15, 2019, 09:32:51 PM

Why Saudi Arabia? Is Anthony Joshua scared to fight Andy Ruiz again in America? I reckon the Staples Center in Los Angeles would be the best place for the rematch. It has plenty of Mexicans heheheheeh.

It's the promoter who dictate where the fight is held and when both fighters agree, things happened and it's a done deal.
Why not Saudi Arabia? Boxing is not only for Americans and Mexicans, there's a lot of fan based all over the whole, and this fight being held in Saudi Arabia is good in promoting Boxing globally.

You can also read this - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/sport/joshua-ruiz-boxing-saudi-arabia-hearn-spt-intl/index.html

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 09, 2019, 06:07:25 PM

This is a match that difficult to predict, but AJ (1/3) is still more favorable to win this match than Ruiz (9/4). If AJ can prepare and train properly (not like in the previous fight), I think he will win.

Thats true, its difficult to know if who will be win on the rematch, because they want both to win and they also make hard more practice on their training. We can see now that Joshua has a big chance for the rematch to win than to Ruiz.

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