Topic: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink - page 31. (Read 297707 times)

lmao no shiz.

i mean there was no real connection besides the fact that moolah.io exchange had Octo listed when it was running. i also think that may have been the only exchange with a Octocoin/us dollar pairing. or it coulda been cryptoaltex. neither exchange is around now.

and octo devs disappeared about the time the news about him came out about him and Mintpal.com scam.

Oh wow! If Alex/Ryan is connected to Octocoin somehow, I will eat a pinecone live via video conference. ^_^

plus ANYONE can register a domain with whatever credentials you want. it doesn't mean it was legit that person. i could do it right now if i had the money and wanted to.

also from a scammers standpoint, most are not going to just change one name, they are going to use other names entirely. there is wayyy to much info about him online that led us to connect the dots. you can find all of it from a simple google search.

that's almost way to easy. scammers usually take way more precautions and are very smart about what they do to dupe people.

i cannot say that he or the Octo devs are scammers at this point. all we can say is we don't really know much besides what we have found on Google.

and what are they scamming? not like there was a heavy volume at any point for them to cash out on. if anything they were killing the volume and killing bitcoin donations to keep us off Cryptsy.

at this point there's no scam cuz nobody including them has profited from Octo that we have proof of.

i threw out a weird theory about moolah being involved since he has disappeared with all his scammer/Mintpal troubles. doesn't mean he is. just throwing stuff out there and seeing if we get a response from someone or someone else has another clue or link to what may be reality.

brianbbad,

i have tried to be the voice of reason this whole 7 months. even when other scoff at me. in reality i thought if Octo is really backed by Alliance of Angels or angels or whatever that we may be sitting on a coin backed by legit software devs with real huge plans. we still may be. but this community has lost faith in that. i still have hope. but if they don't respond then what else are we supposed to think. it just leads to suspicions for many. we may be missing out on very important data that proves otherwise.

in the end i hope that we are all just jumping the gun and there's a very good explanation for all of this. and for all of the weird theories and crazy links. we just won't know unless we figure it out.

many of us have known some of this for awhile now and we chose not to bring it forth because we knew it wasn't 100% clear evidence. and i know i didn't say anything because i don't want  to piss off or smear anyone.

i just want answers about what the heck i have put my money in.

i'm in no way saying he's a scammer. i just posted saying i'm trying to figure out all the links. to me Bholzer has been a standup dude and in no way am i attacking him.

i'm just putting out info and hoping he can give us more insight.

he was the one that posted about Alliance of Angels buying fusionhash. he was the one that had to delete posts per the Octo devs. he's the only person on this board that has claimed to have met some of the developers and been involved in conference calls and such. he's the only person that has come here and gave us somewhat of updates about Octo per conference calls besides the actual Octo devs posts.

i'm just saying with no contact or responses from the devs themselves, Bholzer is ALL we got. and it's not a bad thing. maybe he can clear some of this up or pressure the devs to respond to the community.

i'm a holder in both Octo and Murraycoin. i've always liked Bholzer and been thankful for his input. i do not want to see him smeared.. i just know the community needs some answers.

we have sat here patient for 7 months. we have even sat patiently since we went stale at Bittrex again. but at some point these questions and links have to be talked about. too many people have a lot of time and money tied up into Octo. hell Bholzer himself said he invested and purchased a ton of Octo.

i am just hoping that this leads to some positive responses from Bhozler or the Octo devs.

 because if it doesn't, you have a lot of people in the community talking about where do we go from here. how about we try to figure out just where are actually at. cuz with all of this and no devs we really don't have a clue. Bhozer was our lifeline before when the devs disappeared so maybe he can be again.

Thank you, frameLAlife. I always feel better when at least one other voice of reason speaks up. 

not necessarily.... maybe there are more chapters of alliance of angels than what we have contacted. plus i coulda swore that www.snapappointments.com which belongs to Bholzer was funded by Alliance of Angels. i could be wrong there.

https://angel.co/brock-holzer

he talks about getting angel funding. who knows exactly how all that relates to alliance of angels. i don't have a great understanding of exactly how all that works but i've been reading it trying to figure out how any of it could legitimately be tied to Octocoin.

i'm not posting saying Bholzer is a scammer. i'm just posting the response from my email... there could possibly be other explanations to all this.

but since the devs disappeared and he also hasn't logged on since Oct. 8th I feel the need to at least discuss it.

plus dudes already got business ventures and such.... why would anyone so successful be a scammer. i just don't see that.

here's a vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csojaD9fI-U

he says at the last 5 mins or so that they got angel funding out of New Jersey.. maybe that's related to alliance of angels somehow.

why would this dude feel the need to scam anyone? he's been involved in Megacoin and Murraycoin... you think he's gonna ruin his rep for Octocoin as a scam?? i don't think so.

we just don't know what the connection is. we don't know anything cuz the devs disappeared. all we have are random pieces of info and a response from the head of  Alliance of Angels that says they do not know anything about him, Octo or Fusionhash. there could still be something that we are all missing.

that's why many of us who have known a lot of this info for awhile now have sat on it because nothing is proof.

if anything maybe we thought that he was more involved in Octo than he led. maybe to protect his relationship with Murraycoin. no coin wants to think a dev is abandoning one coin to start another. so that would be a reason why you would not want to be a public dev. nothing wrong with that.

but... now we just have to see how this all plays out.

in no way do i want to smear someone who may not be guilty of anything. but we have sat and waited for awhile now so since some people opened this can of worms i figure all of us working together might be able to figure it out.

or enact a response from the devs or Bholzer.

You have to also read all the messages bholzer had posted, you will have look at that other site as he has deleted things from on here

It all adds up to bholzer is a SCAMMER

Guys, let's take a breather. Are we sure that a *member* of Alliance of Angels didn't privately provide funding to FusionHash / Octocoin through a different route? For example, Brock Pierce is a member of dozens of Angel/VC collectives.
I appreciate that you're freaked out, I am concerned as well, but I don't think we have anything conclusive here just yet.
Do we even know who's behind octohub? Is it possible someone registered the site as such to make Brock look like a fraud?

Cheers frameLAlife, at least we all now know bholzer is a SCAMMER!!!

RE: [Contact Form] From Kris
Inbox
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Yi-Jian Ngo <[email protected]>
6:16 PM (1 hour ago)

to me
Hello Kris, thanks for your note. Neither Brock Holzer nor Candy Connis
Holzer are members of my organization, nor have I had any prior contact with
them. We are not investors in, or have had any business relationship
whatsoever, with either OctoCoin or FusionHash.com.

Can you share with me the weblink that indicates that www.octohub.org is
registered to Alliance of Angels, with the correct street address and the
name Brock Connis? Thanks in advance!

cheers
Yi-Jian

-----Original Message-----
From: Kris  [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 2:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Contact Form] From Kris

Name: Kris


Comments: To whom it may concern,

I am contacting you inquiring about your knowledge of a cryptocurrency and
software project labeled Octocoin.

Brock Holzer who appears to be associated with Alliance of Angels has made
claims that there was a possible link between Octocoin and your organization
at least by funding.

There were also claims made that Alliance of Angels had purchased an altcoin
mining company where you could mine Octocoin called FusionHash.com.

When you research the names behind www.octohub.org you find the site
registered to Alliance of Angels, with the correct street address and the
name Brock Connis. The link appears to be with Candy Connis Holzer, who
according to her Facebook page is Brock Holzer's mother.

There is a community surrounding this coin who has purchased and supported
the supposed developers of Octocoin, many of us based on the assumption that
they were backed by Alliance of Angels financially.

The developers have recently disappeared while there has been an issue with
the project in which many of us cannot withdraw our Octocoin from the
Bittrex.com exchange.

We also have seen no hard evidence that such a project exists or is backed
by Alliance of Angels.

Any information regarding this issue is appreciated.

You can contact me via email or by phone at
270-xxx-xxxx.

Thanks, Kris

I called octocoin a scam, I didn't call bholzer a scammer, but I did say the evidence was pointing towards him and asked him to come explain


"Now a request for bholzer, for those of you that do not know Octocoin was a scam and all the evidence at this point points to bholzer as being the perpetrator

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9449851

The octocoin community which is probably a lot of the murraycoin community, are asking bholzer to come explain and provide proof that he is not the perpetrator of this scam"

I just emailed them explaining our concerns and asking for a response or any information as well.

i get your point. i just think it's fair not to make scam accusations as much as asking for explanations based on known info from then internet and his prior posts related to Octo.

but yes, it is important after patiently waiting and sitting on this info for months now to at least ask.

http://www.allianceofangels.com/contact/

contact info

I used the contact form on their website. They haven't responded yet. I think it makes sense to use that form and whatever other emails. A variety I mean. I think many of us contacting them, whatever ways we can, and being polite is a good approach. We just want answers.

I put a message on the murraycoin thread, its wasn't accusing him as such, I just said the evidence was pointing to him, and asked him to come explain n prove me wrong with evidence

it does't really matter what he says, unless he has something to back his story up, which wouldn't be hard,if alliance of angels true bought fusion hash, he should have paperwork as he was a part owner

which email addy are you guys using to contact to the alliance of angels?

Just because it is registered as Brock doesn't mean it was him. But when he said that he knew the devs and had met them last year and he supported the coin, of course when people first started seeing this info, one could jump to that conclusion.

On the other hand, I have always stated, why would he risk his rep and his own Murraycoin project, by making false statements or scamming anyone?

That would make no sense whatsoever.

I think it's more about the information has been out there and many of us have known it for awhile and not really said much about it. IF anything most of us thought that he was way more involved than he led on.

It's all just a weird mess.

nice! you did your homework!


let's go guys, fantastic idea!