Topic: [ANN] [888] [SCRYPT] OctoCoin ◦ The Power of Eight ◦ Don't Blink - page 27. (Read 297707 times)

I'd have happily put in a couple of BTC for a community takeover provided there were solid plans for the coin, there weren't, not yet at least and I wasn't invited to your majority, so c'est la vie.

Go learn English kid, look up the meaning of the word majority. In the meantime, good luck with octoscam2.

Incidentally, if anybody wants to dump *cough* I mean trade there is always the rather mickey mouse backwater that is Xnigma that still has an Octo market with a very faint pulse.

whatever dude...

put you money where you mouth is - lots of people here had the opportunity to setup up to  the plate - none did. Not a single fucking person - including you.

I did and I put real BTC in - dude you're crying now because what... you missed to opportunity to be part of the 'mysterious group" ?? is that what it is.

I like the coin - always have and have been mining it solo for a long time before I opened a pool for it and that's why I offered to by yours.

I invite you to be part of the 'mysterious group' - the group is me, myself and Edric - so stop your whining. Your like the guy who had a chance to buy a ticket on the ride, chose not to then stands there's crying because he missed the opportunity - grow the fuck up.

there's no mysterious group - before you start shouting bullshit - all you had to do was ask who is in the group - jesus man - you're acting like an exposed nerve...

as my high school football coach used to say if any of us opened out mouths on the sidelines to criticize - put some skin in the game - just because I'm not out here posting all the time doesn't make me any less of a member of the community.

regardless of your claim  of bullshit I am having Edric continue his work and I will continue to pay him - to me a deal is a deal - when he's done and has it working we will put it to a vote is the community wants to accept the 'fixed' wallet it take another course of action.

Let the majority rule.

Absolute fucking bullshit.  So the coin is once again being run by a mysterious group, a group that is still allegedly in touch with the original devs.  So who is the we here? there or 4 or 5 people regularly posting on here and not one of them (to my knowledge) is involved in the "we" collective.  Thanks for the private offer to buy 1 million coins for 1 btc by the way, i would rather send them to a dead address with no known private key than let some other here today gone tomorrow mystery collective profit from them.

Great to see that sth. is been done right now! Many, many thanks! Was there any communication with the original devs? Did Edric get a hold of them?

To end speculation.

The plan is this - Edric has been hired by a small group to fix the problem with the wallet. He is hard at work right now and an announcement will be coming in the next several days. Since the 888 codebase was originally a fork of a much larger and well know coin, Edric is analyzing whether is easier to fix the current code base or again - copy that larger coins codebase (which has been updated and is VERY stable) and reapply the changes necessary for 888.

A proposal was put forth in this very thread over a week ago for form a group that could contribute funds, but no one stepped up and the original devs are unable long term to make the kind of commitment necessary to insure continuity. Their input and offers are most appreciated.

We felt the best thing for this coin to allay fears of it's demise is to get a functional and bug free wallet completed so that Bittrex would unlock people's fund and let free market trading of the coin begin again. It simply was unfair to holders of the coin for Bittrex to hold their coins hostage while nothing was being done to correct the problem. This will cure that situation

as Arnold might say : "888 will be BACK!"

So what is the plan here? I understand that we need to do something so let us do something. I am in the same boat as most of you so let's get this back up and running and see where we stand. I do know that there will be a major dump once an exchange comes back online, that is a given. For those of us that will HODL then we need to have a roadmap to guide us through this crisis. Many have said to stay with 888 symbol and all and that is fine. We just need to do something and quit talking. Talk is cheap so let's move on a plan. I do wish I were a dev as then I would make it happen myself. Alas, I am not so I have to rely on others to make this happen. The longer we wait the more dumpers there will be. I am open to ANY suggestions on what I can do to help anyone that can get this back online again. Thank you.

About the BTM dev helping out... His comment from the BTM thread (emphasis added):


If his idea to "help" OctoCoin out is by running experiments for his own coin (which, by the way, has a totally f'd-up difficulty... see italicized portion of quote) then we do not need him. We do not need any experiments that might get us dropped from Bittrex altogether if/when they fail.

As I stated in the previous post... it is a simple fix.

I am sure we can get a group together from the community that can implement the fix, and make positive improvements for OctoCoin in the future. I am one of the larger investors, here. I do not have much time, at present, to devote to Octo but am willing to help where I can if we can get a group to work together for the future of 888.

Never count Edric out. He has a lot going on, at the moment, but is very reliable.

As far as fixing the coin goes... it should be an easy fix and shouldn't take very long to get the code straight.

The Octocoin 1.8 code was a direct copy of Dogecoin Core 1.7, with a few minor adjustments (block rewards, difficulty adjustments, genesis block, etc). It was rushed to market to beat the Doge release and missed out on a couple of changes Dogecoin made just before their release. Some of these changes are associated with how transactions are seen and recorded by the network, which may be the problem at Bittrex.

The pfennig code used by Bitmark is very solid and would work as an upgrade (with a different difficulty schedule), or we could compare the Octo 1.8 to Doge 1.7 and correct the files where necessary. Either should straighten out any problem with transactions at Bittrex as both have been traded there at high volumes with no issues.

One note on naming a developer. We should not rely on just one person as the developer. There should be a team of people assembled (from the community) that would be in charge of developing and promoting the coin. In this way we could involve more of our community in the work needed to be done and not have a single point of failure. With one person doing all of the work... if something happens to them, we are back at looking for a developer again.

Keeping the 888 ticker and making Octo a gambling coin is not a good idea. There is a large 888 gaming corporation who, I am sure, would not be happy about it, as it could be mistaken as part of their network.

Keeping the 888 ticker and having a coin with a variety of real-life uses would probably be okay. I like the Octo name and the 888 ticker, but when it all comes down to make or break; the features that are developed for the coin is what will give it value, not the name.

Just my two-pence worth for the day.  

Thanks Mark

Mark is the BTM Bitmark dev,I asked him to take look and if he can help with wallet.
So if everybody agree with comunity taking over, if we can make deal with Edric about long term dev,That will be awesome.

Regards

don't count Edric out - that's for sure

still waters runs deep - trust me on this.

any 1:1 transfer to a new coin would be accessible by whoever's holding the pre-mine just like anyone else. unless you wanna parse every TX needed to find out where that all is, and even then i don't know what exactly you could do.

i like the octo name, we have to keep the 888 ticker, that's all i really care about, it's too good to pass up on.

it could be an idea to come up with a new coin name, try and rebrand. but with any sort of 1:1 program then any re-brand will quickly be traced back to being octocoin. so it might all be best left to just keeping what we have and fixing it.

Edric never came back looks like, i guess we're counting him out, i mean it was his first post here in like 3 months, if he comes back wonderful, but i wouldn't count him as onboard anything, which means we have to keep looking, the clock's a tickin.

coinsolodation, since we are leaderless at the moment, i'd just like to say that on behalf of the investors, we would REALLY appreciate any help you can give us, and i'm sure you'll be rewarded with donations if you can get anything done on this coin. i'd love to see 888 become better integrated with online poker, it's just the right fit IMO. we had an IRC octocoin texas hold'em script running if i'm not mistaken, we need a way of getting a GUI poker game operational, online, and using 888. no real service would use it i don't think, not without being able to have a controlling investment in the currency. i can't see why it would be worth anyone's while to hand over the value of their product to a bunch of strangers who hold all the currency. so we need to consider what we're willing to give up to give this coin a shot.

888 = lucky gambling. let's roll with that for the real plans, unless anyone has anything better/more relevant

I cannot develop the coin long term as I am committed to my own project.  However, I can help you fix the bittrex-blocking issue with transactions, likely on Sunday, if that would help.

Alternatively, if you can get your community together to work out what you want to use the currency for (i.e. work on some services and real longevity), and get a long term developer on board (Edric?), then I will commit some time to helping you get up and running with a fork of our own (modern, tested) codebase, a premine equal to the coins in chain, and a fair balanced configuration moving forward.  We also have 2 proposed modifications to difficulty and emission calculation, it would be good to include one of them, after testing of course.

Warmest Regards,  Mark

may be we did

Let's put it like this...I believe some of us have cancelled their trip to Vegas in march 

lol awakening in progress ?
 

agreed. a community takeover shouldn't stay octo. should change the specs and nature of the coin. 1:1 transfer and jack the blockchain. and find a way to burn the premine coins of the dev.

Maybe we can have a new coin made and have a 1:1 transfer of 888 for new coin??? Do a fork to a new coin? Take Hyperstake for example. It forked from Truckcoin and whatever amount of truckcoin you had then you had that many Hyperstake. 1:1 transfer to new coin. Just thinking out loud. Something needs to be done as too many people have invested too much money to let this die. This community is a strong one so let's figure something out. Then once that is accomplished we can begin anew with new ideas and continue upward. And since it will be a new coin there will not be any dumping as price will not be set. Actually if we went this route and everyone and I mean everyone was on board then we could set our own price on the exchanges. Any other ideas??

I don't really see a point in taking over the coin. Without the promised apps there is nothing special about it. Even if we get it back on Bittrex...there will be a huge dump and then it's dead. As for the 'inner circle' stuff etc...this is just another kick in the face of the community. If we were asked for support at a earlier point I would have thrown in money and time for Octo. But after all the accusations about the community made by BHolzer...I don't think there is a possibility for a professional business partnership. The whole Octocoin project looked really promising, but now it seems like it's been a amateurish try all the time. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't believe it will happen.

Perhaps a little less desperation would suffice. I hope nobody has pestered Edric too much outside of this thread.

That said, from prior communications via his pool, and chatter from this posts early days, I do feel confident in his ability and willingness to fix the coin. Anyone with a memory will know he doesn't have a huge stake but has run his pool with integrity the whole time.

The big question is, how much faith can be put into Bholzer and his input on the matter. It's great to finally have some feedback from somebody however I feel I am not alone in saying his "openness" still felt shady in some ways. The greatest point being the whole "I've not even secretly saved the project." Trouble is, a non-secret known only by one person, sort of is a secret, isn't it?

The fact that you cannot/chose not to bother explaining what you meant negates any weight you could have carried with that statement. When you couple this with the fact that despite all this, despite being in contact with the dev(s), they still can't be arsed to chime in, at all. Nothing about that is professional. The churlishness of blaming us as a community for the downfall is a straight up "fuck you" and nothing more. The community could not have been more supportive. A little in-fighting and name-calling is forgiveable when the situation has been so stressful for so long.

I almost can't help but feel this is like a person trying to get their partner to do the breakup. The core issues have been danced around, vague solutions have been given, timelines have been blurred, fingers pointed and blame displaced, just as the issue of a community take over crops up. It's almost too perfect - everyone dev wise gets out scot-free, you get left alone, and best case if it gets rolling, you get from us the fat cheque that you in fact promised to give us.

However, with everything else you are reputedly involved in, your real name, (it makes me sick to say it but your parents identities etc) what reason could there be for lying in this matter. It strikes me that there is nothing but stress to be gained from attempting to string us along. It wouldn't even begin to help anyone offload any of the quantity of Octo we all hold, so there's little rhyme or reason to it.

I don't feel it is too late for Octo at all, but my honest opinion is that if Bholzer/Dev really are too far up on their high horses to put actual facts behind the BOLD statements given, then takeover is the only option. In which case we need to start talking details. I'd say we dump this entire codebase, use a modern fork of something that works, and organize with Richie@Bittrex to facilitate a swap over and have him burn the coins held there. Maybe he can open up deposits (only) for a couple of weeks for everyone to get on board while we promote. Just a suggestion but why fix when we can upgrade instead. We'd need other things going at the same time. I see little point merely making the coin work without some kind of service for it.

HALLO?