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Topic: [ANN] A New Coin! First Coin on Bitcoin Core v0.19+Dash MN(PoW/PoS hybrid) - page 3. (Read 2824 times)

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Well the 7th November came and went. This project failed to take off on the launch date and this thread was not even updated.

Their social media and Telegram was not much help in letting people know what was going on.

We updated everyone in our Discord and Telegram where they look for our news. As you will probably notice, not a single person actually interested in our project made comment about it on this very forum.

To the people who care:


We ran into a small issue at crunch time: there is an unusual bug which occurs while a node is mining and minting at the same time, whilst deterministic masternode, quorum signing and chainlocks are all enabled.

Which was detrimental to our launch. We have since fixed this issue and have a new countdown for our launch time.

Jollygood, I am not sure why you are such a negative person, or so toxic to the "new coin" community (the opposite of what you represent in your name) but your comments do not scare us away.

It looks like they will not continue this project, it looks they are less communicative with everyone, I think this will end soon.

We have gone no where, just busy making fixes and communicating our delays to the community through our channels.

If anyone wants news from the source, we are all always available to chat on our discord and telegram... night or day.

Cheers.
Zentoshi Team
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Well the 7th November came and went. This project failed to take off on the launch date and this thread was not even updated.

Their social media and Telegram was not much help in letting people know what was going on.

We just wasted our time on giving them advises how to properly start and present this project. Any new project needs a lot of time and some investments in advertising to achieve results. This dudes ignored all this. They thought that everyone will jump on board with bags of money, only because it is blockchain related project. That times of scammy ICO's past and now nobody will invest a single dollar in a project that is presented in zentoshi way.
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Well the 7th November came and went. This project failed to take off on the launch date and this thread was not even updated.

Their social media and Telegram was not much help in letting people know what was going on.

It looks like they will not continue this project, it looks they are less communicative with everyone, I think this will end soon.
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Well the 7th November came and went. This project failed to take off on the launch date and this thread was not even updated.

Their social media and Telegram was not much help in letting people know what was going on.
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Hello,

Our modified CPU miner is available!

https://github.com/zentoshi/cpuminer-balloon2

Cheers.
-Zentoshi Team
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Mainnet launch is tomorrow... Who is excited?
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the team looks fake as fuck.

most probably stole the images from somewhere and using them to instill a false sense of legitimacy.

this shit just feels like a scam.

 Roll Eyes


To be clear, I understand your sentiments because they have made a mistake by using paid shills and sock-puppets to post in this thread, that was a major error as it took away the conversation from any potential business and project to questions about their integrity instead.

The second major error was this insistence on feigning ignorance about it and trying to switch it around by playing the victim card instead.



Hello JollyGood,
How are you,
The official team did not order any services for pumping the announcement. if you have confirmation, please present.
Perhaps which of the project investors has taken their own initiative, we admit it. But we cannot forbid people to do this. Although we do not approve of such actions.
We have paid for 0 shilling, and the real conversation about any potential business and project has been happening in our discord which people have been consistently joining. As we mentioned everyone is free to join and devise their own opinion, we welcome everybody  Cheesy

Thank you,
The Zentoshi Team
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the team looks fake as fuck.

most probably stole the images from somewhere and using them to instill a false sense of legitimacy.

this shit just feels like a scam.

 Roll Eyes


To be clear, I understand your sentiments because they have made a mistake by using paid shills and sock-puppets to post in this thread, that was a major error as it took away the conversation from any potential business and project to questions about their integrity instead.

The second major error was this insistence on feigning ignorance about it and trying to switch it around by playing the victim card instead.

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Posting my reply from this thread here too:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new


Just when I thought this was all over and we could move on.....

For comparison here is our CryptoTalk thread:

https://cryptotalk.org/topic/17069-ann-zentoshi-zenx-launching-november-7th-2019/

Now to me this seems fine but then admittedly I haven't done a deep dive into user accounts and post history of who is posting there.

Now let's say that we did hire some kind of pump group as claimed, then why wouldn't they also be working on the CryptoTalk thread too?

I don't know what's going on with BTT and why things are happening, for all I know one of the accusers has made a bunch of alt accounts and is trying to set us up to get some trust credit or a community member thought they were helping us by making posts, who knows at this point.

What I do know for absolute certainty is no pump group has been hired or paid to make posts on our ANN thread so I feel like all these accusations of being a scam are a little too far and have been extremely damaging to our project. We just launched our testnet which was supposed to be an exciting milestone for us and a chance to show everyone what we have been working on and it is all being muddied by these constant accusations.

First we were accused of having a fake team and using pics stolen off google, we provided social links for everyone on the team who offered them and added them to LinkedIn.

Then we were accused of not being a registered LLC in the US so we provided documents as proof that we were in fact registered.

Then there was the whole T&C issue which has also been resolved.

Now we are left with this mystery hired shill/pump group which conveniently is something we do not have an ability to disprove, at least I have no idea how you can disprove that kind of allegation.

Maybe these attacks/accusations about the project did start off with good intentions to protect the BTT community but at this point it is starting to feel a bit malicious in all honesty.
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So you claim that you are not shilling your Ann, but the moment people started asking about it, newbies suddenly disappeared. How convenient.

I am still here, I have been monitoring this thread to see how the team handled and resolved it. You all have pointed out many concerns and criticisms that seem to hold some validity. I felt that I should withdraw myself for a while until things resolved themselves.

Since the beginning of the investigation I've been reading and following conversation in the thread to see where it all leads. To the best of my knowledge I've been on Zentoshi Discord for sometime and true to their words they've done most things by the books. I really can't fault them in any way since it might be a genuine oversight.

I'm not paid shill. In fact this is like my 3rd comment since the start of the thread. Not really active in the thread. I'm a concerned participant in both telegram and discord.

Do have a nice day dear senior members. Plus I love all questions and concerns raised and cleared.

Huge majority of your last 100 posts were made in these   altcoin threads:

Dreamr
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dreamr-the-first-platform-for-dream-manifestation-5186091
http://archive.md/OyUrK

Bitmax
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitmaxio-transaction-mining-reverse-mining-5066589
https://archive.ph/pFvYJ

Elynet
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-elynet-official-regular-updates-5185512
http://archive.md/o33P1

Bitmovio
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-you-know-about-bitmovio-gaming-video-entertainment-platform-5192272
http://archive.md/kAGIT

What is interesting that all those threads have same group of Ann bumpers/shillers talking among themselves. Among others  is your other  friend from Zentoshi thread, ning_aric. Bare in mind this is just from last 100 posts, when i check a bit more back i found more threads with same group of people.

Is this all just a coincidence, that same accounts go around and write in same Ann threads?
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So you claim that you are not shilling your Ann, but the moment people started asking about it, newbies suddenly disappeared. How convenient.

I am still here, I have been monitoring this thread to see how the team handled and resolved it. You all have pointed out many concerns and criticisms that seem to hold some validity. I felt that I should withdraw myself for a while until things resolved themselves.

Since the beginning of the investigation I've been reading and following conversation in the thread to see where it all leads. To the best of my knowledge I've been on Zentoshi Discord for sometime and true to their words they've done most things by the books. I really can't fault them in any way since it might be a genuine oversight.

I'm not paid shill. In fact this is like my 3rd comment since the start of the thread. Not really active in the thread. I'm a concerned participant in both telegram and discord.

Do have a nice day dear senior members. Plus I love all questions and concerns raised and cleared.
Nathan01
In the meantime, if testnet started can we get details here...

Hello!

Testnet is live, you can currently download the QT compiled .exe for windows here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569083787783438346/640731867997405214/zentoshi-qt.zip

Cheers!
Zentoshi Team

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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.

Hello JollyGood,

Our T's and C's and Privacy Policy have been added to our website. These are living documents and may be revised at anytime. I hope moving forward we prove to you that we are here to stay, and further blockchain technology for the market as a whole! We have much planned that is unannounced which is very exciting developments that will assist the mainstream adoption of cryptocurrencies and bring more adopters to this space. We have to start somewhere as we are but a small startup at present, but have so much to offer to this market. Sorry for any and all hostilities from all parties involved. I hope we can start fresh. We should all be nicer going forward.

Cheers,
Zentoshi Team
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So you claim that you are not shilling your Ann, but the moment people started asking about it, newbies suddenly disappeared. How convenient.

I am still here, I have been monitoring this thread to see how the team handled and resolved it. You all have pointed out many concerns and criticisms that seem to hold some validity. I felt that I should withdraw myself for a while until things resolved themselves.

Since the beginning of the investigation I've been reading and following conversation in the thread to see where it all leads. To the best of my knowledge I've been on Zentoshi Discord for sometime and true to their words they've done most things by the books. I really can't fault them in any way since it might be a genuine oversight.

I'm not paid shill. In fact this is like my 3rd comment since the start of the thread. Not really active in the thread. I'm a concerned participant in both telegram and discord.

Do have a nice day dear senior members. Plus I love all questions and concerns raised and cleared.
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Nice coin with good concept, how can i mine zentoshi?
is there any active mining pool , im intrested to mine this coin.
reserved for exchange updates, thanks

Hello!

We are currently running a testnet, you can see how your mining gear performs through our modified balloon hashing algo if you wish. All you require is an AMD or Intel processor, it is a memory hard CPU mining algo. We also have PoS enabled to alongside PoW. We have more details in our Discord!

We will be working with 2 mining pools at launch on Nov. 7, one being BSoD.pw who have been a great partner of ours thus far!
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Nice coin with good concept, how can i mine zentoshi?
is there any active mining pool , im intrested to mine this coin.
reserved for exchange updates, thanks
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In the meantime, if testnet started can we get details here...

Hello!

Testnet is live, you can currently download the QT compiled .exe for windows here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569083787783438346/640731867997405214/zentoshi-qt.zip

Cheers!
Zentoshi Team
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In the meantime, if testnet started can we get details here...
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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.

Hello everyone,
I hope you are all doing well,
We feel as if this thread is getting derailed, we understand your concern Jolly, could you give a chance for other people to talk, if even to share your concerns, it seems you are quite attached to our project. While I appreciate your consistent involvement, it is creating pages where no real dialogue is taking place. We believe you have listed your concerns at this point and given plenty for people to think about, please let other investors have a chance to speak as this is our thread for our ANN.
We are not dreamers, in fact we expected hate and a lot of resistance that comes with building cutting-edge technology. In a world full of PIVX clones on outdated versions, there will always be backlash to those who pave the future of the technology. What we've been building for a year and half, there is no other project like it. Bitcoin core v0.18 & dash deterministic MNs, people will even come to fork our code once we're done here.
We understand those people might not include you, as you do not like our project, but the technology is real, the team that built it is real, the platforms that use the tech are real whether you call us dreamers or scammers we're here to stay. In fact our testnet is up if anyone wants to test and see that technology first hand.
We ask you kindly, you have stated your concerns and your red flags, people will have a chance to read it and make up their own mind, at this point isn't this beyond just good intentions?
Thank you for your service on BTT,
We know in this crypto world full of scams that it is often our first response to look at the bad of a project, we've become jaded from scams, money lost, dreams crashed and exits. But we assure you, if you wait until we are live and see the change we are making in this space, you would be all for it.

I advised OP to update the thread with links to team members social media profiles provided by him.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52959117

But nothing was done. And one more question. What is the total supply of coins and how big is the premine?

The links for team members are all in the OP (at the bottom) as requested. I believe they are also being added to the website too once some other tasks are completed.

Coin Specs are in the OP and also in the post directly above yours.



I see. OP saved some money and time. He did not changed anything in ANN. He just added all links at the end of the topic as a post. Ok. We have 2 500 000 coins as a premine.... Could I ask what is the total supply? because it is not mentioned in "Economic Specification" And one more question. Are you a developer or a team member? Because you are answering all questions instead of OP.

Hello mospronoz,

Yes, in business it is often smart to have your balance sheet and financials checked out. We do not believe any attempt to save money nor time when we are working hard to build new technology and going live should be something looked down upon. Plainly stating, we have a community to satisfy rather than your demands; to answer your other questions, we limited what is on the website and put it all in the whitepaper, which we spent 4 months carefully writing and 6 months to design for you all to read and enjoy. You'll find its quality unparalleled anywhere else much like the quality of our technology. Understand that changing designs on a website, and then having that design coded 1:1 is expensive, it took us a week to design the BTT ANN, and much longer to design our website.
We're focusing on going live and then we will make these changes.
We hope you understand that this is our business, and we make decisions that we feel is best on how to operate it, with our combined years of running and managing successful projects.
We are thankful for your understanding and your concerns that you have listed,
We ask that you please let the thread continue on, as you have given the readers 2-3 pages to read, and this is enough at this point,
Thank you,
Zentoshi Team
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And yet you are still making your assumptions as though they are fact, making claims that I have organised “paid shills” from a “pumping service” when my only involvement in this thread was the 2 posts that I made. I had nothing to do with this threads creation, release or management apart from the Medium article and posts about it on the social channels.

Edit:

Just remembered I did ask them to add the release date to title of the thread too so can add that to the list for my involvement in this thread.
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I’m sorry but no you absolutely are making a huge issue out of nothing and doing everything you can to undermine the project.
You did that yourself the moment you got sock-puppets to post here.

I never wanted to undermine this project, I pointed out several flaws because paid shills from a pumping service that you instructed to post here in order to generate fake buzz brought it to the attention of one user who bought it to my attention.



Red flag 1 and 2 are essentially the same thing, newbie accounts or inactive ones suddenly becoming active and posting here. They already said we made a big deal about the ANN thread launching, I even wrote an article about it for our Medium and shared it in all our socials to let everyone know so of course it will direct some traffic here as that was the intention to give visibility to this thread.
Your post on Medium was not the reason sock-puppets posted here. The OP claimed he did not know anything about therefore you being their social media and promotions manager were the one that used them only to see it spectacularly backfire. Blaming it on an article instead of owning does nothing except casts further doubt on this project.



https://link.medium.com/HpEsA6iXj1

As for actually posting here my 2 posts I made in this thread prior to today have been dealt with here as I got called out as a “professional shillers”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5198234.new#new
Yes I read both links you provided and it strengthens my view that the Medium article is being used as a convenient scapegoat.



Red Flag 3 being the T&C as said it will be dealt with but as it’s the weekend they just did a quick change until the proper fix can be put in place.
You repeating what I already stated.



So can you please explain what exactly further needs to be done here to address these 3 concerns of yours.
No.


I will give it a couple of days before maybe popping back here to see what is going on an what other users are posting.
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