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Topic: [ANN] ANACOIN - cryptocurrency for peace - page 10. (Read 15229 times)

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Finally I was able to find the ann page and read its contents. I congratulate you in your cause. May your project stamp out extremism in Great Britain and will be able to help more so around the world.

Many thanks II, we are working hard and hope to make a difference in what is a huge struggle.
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The main ANN thread is now updated with details of token price, allocation and structure.

51.6% of the Anacoins put aside for early funders have been allocated (almost all fiat to Foundation for research), pre-sale ongoing for the next week at $0.50 per Anacoin, so at live prices, 1 ETH = 200 Anacoins.

Please see presale thread if you wish to purchase in BTC or $, or email the information e-mail in the first ANN post.

The main token sale in September will have a hard cap of 2.25m Anacoins at $1 each.

We have tried to create a token economy that appreciates in value as the value of the platform increases, based on our unique Proof of Social Proof model for mining new coins and key Anacoin allocations only unlocking once key, verifiable milestones are hit.

We thank you all for your support, come over and say hello to us on Slack, all feedback and suggestions appreciated!
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Finally I was able to find the ann page and read its contents. I congratulate you in your cause. May your project stamp out extremism in Great Britain and will be able to help more so around the world.
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no airdrop for anacoin sir??

Hi Jiya, I'm afraid not, but we do have a bounty thread available  Smiley
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Hi TCF,

Your initiative is interesting and very positive, but how do you want to generate value for Anacoin?

We will be putting up our full details of the tokenomics of Anacoin shortly, but we have designed the token/currency to increase in value in line with the utility and popularity of the platform

The delay has been due to us reviewing dozens of ICOs and their sales and allocation models to ensure we (hopefully) employ best practice.

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And why did you choose that name?

Ananas is the same in most languages of the world, representing our aim to help increase contextual communication amongst those of differing backgrounds.

We have the trademark and multiple domain names and thought it a nice brand to build on (although there are some issues with the name in Turkey and France due to the actions of certain individuals).

Plus the team likes pineapples  Grin

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Where are the team and supply information of the coin?

The team information is on the website, but we have updated the original post to give direct details & LinkedIn profiles.

We have also updated the supply information of the coin and as mentioned will be providing more details soon.

New coins are only minted if the foundation receives over $100,000 in fiat for this project, with tokens equivalent to 50% of that amount being minted monthly for the foundation and being locked for 2 years.

As noted before, full tokenomics and our thinking behind it to come shortly.

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Will the project continue if ICO fails?

Yes, we have several alternate funding streams and models and the team has been working on this project for three years, really trying to understand how ideologies are formed, where they turn positive and where they turn evil and how to try to aid the former and halt the latter.

The current funding for the project to date should shortly exceed £400,000 and we are in touch with several major funders. We are adamant about not giving up any editorial control in exchange for funding of any type.

We believe that given strong institutional and press relationships, a verifiable and experienced multifaith team, minimal technical risk and a worthy cause we should comfortably exceed our soft-cap target for the main token sale.

The pre-sale has been a good learning experience in advance of this, highlighting several areas where we need to bring on more resource and improve.

We will be sharing our learnings from this in the coming weeks.
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Your initiative is interesting and very positive, but how do you want to generate value for Anacoin? And why did you choose that name? Where are the team and supply information of the coin? Will the project continue if ICO fails?
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If your so ambitious to spread the love and stop the hate why not do it for free on a forum.  webhosting is 3.99 a month . . . could come from your pocket.

Where else is the value in buying this coin ?

A forum will be a part of this, but the goal is standardised mapping of the ideological data sets and the inter relationships between key elements (ontologies) within them.

This dataset is needed as the backing to create the resource needed and is the hard organisational problem that we believe wouldn't have been possible without blockchain. Even then people tend to only want to do their own ideology whereas we want to try and model as many as possible to really understand what makes great, positive ideologies and ones that mutate into hideous ideologies that commit literal holocausts.

As I've noted before the problems seem to be getting worse and we are open to hearing any better ideas  Embarrassed
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Your making a coin so people can pay to educate themselves on other religions  ? i think this shit is free for everyone on google . . if they really want to know.

Presale? WTF . . What exactly is it that your selling ? yeah coins i know . . but for what reason . . . what other than education i can get for free will this offer me ?

We are writing up the full tokenomics and will be putting it up on our Medium blog shortly along with full ICO details.

The usage of the coins within the platform are for commissioning content, sponsoring parts and rewarding contributions.

As we note in the white paper information is everywhere, but contextual information, i.e. Knowledge, is harder to find.

The aim of Ananas is to map the worlds ideologies and resources related to these and make them easy to access and navigate, a knowledge graph for ideology if you will.

This does not exist today and is something that we believe would be useful to individuals within their own ideologies (the main users) and to those outside those ideologies looking in (a bonus)

To give an example of platform utility, how would you go about determining if ISIS was Islamic as a non-Muslim?

Googling won't get you too far as the primary organisation on the knowledge graph is backlinking. Wikipedia has its own notion of objectivity.

If you could have a platform where significant structural work had been done or where you know you could ask someone from that community it would be much easier.

For a Muslim this would make understanding their religion a lot easier and help them avoid mount stupid.

As more ideologies are mapped by their respective communities Anacoins will become more in demand and the value of the platform will increase even faster as then you can do cross ideological mapping.
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Your making a coin so people can pay to educate themselves on other religions  ? i think this shit is free for everyone on google . . if they really want to know.

Presale? WTF . . What exactly is it that your selling ? yeah coins i know . . but for what reason . . . what other than education i can get for free will this offer me ?

If your so ambitious to spread the love and stop the hate why not do it for free on a forum.  webhosting is 3.99 a month . . . could come from your pocket.

Where else is the value in buying this coin ?
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Where's the original thread? Created this one to avoid all the negativities from the old one? Your ambition is too much I can say.

The original thread can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ananas-tech-against-hate-pre-sale-live-2035149, it was locked like many others due to the bounty thread having stakes for ANN thread posting, which was wrong.

We checked all was ok with mprep and did new thread on their request.

The original thread has some negativity but we remained respectful and give full explanations as anyone can see. The homophobia was a bit concerning however.

I do not understand the stance that we are trying to be too ambitious.

Creating a contextual Quran as a first step is very manageable with the right support.

The information is all out there but just needs to be organised.

Blockchain is a means to organise individuals in unique was as Naval Ravikant outlined in his market economy tweetstorm referenced in our white paper.

We also note that we won't stop extreme explicitly up top, but we do think we can help by creating a resource like this, which would quickly be superior to the alternatives out there.

If this can stop one hate crime or individual being radicalised it will have been worth it for us, we think it can do so much more.

We believe that makes this worthy of support and is why we are working on this project and hope others will join us.

We will be having a public  competition shortly for better ideas as we would love to hear them.
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Where's the original thread? Created this one to avoid all the negativities from the old one? Your ambition is too much I can say.
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So If I understand this correctly, your platform will be somewhat of a merging of wikipedia and  steemit. From what I can see you will have a challenge getting this platform marketed to the intended audience as a go-to source, however I wish you Good luck!
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So If I understand this correctly, your platform will be somewhat of a merging of wikipedia and  steemit. From what I can see you will have a challenge getting this platform marketed to the intended audience as a go-to source, however I wish you Good luck!

Thanks stillmad, every bit of luck counts!

We are collating feedback for the next version of the whitepaper and final plan ahead of the main ICO in September, but the idea is that it will be a bit different:

1. Steemit and Wikipedia are designed to be decentralised. We are aiming to have a decentralised area where the 'unstructured'/less structured data lives, where the foundation and any Anacoin holders can commission pieces and reward submissions.

This data is then collated into structured data sets by approved members of individual communities aided by some Smart programming/AI on the standardised data sets.

For example the ithna ashari (Twelver) Shia, ie those in Iran and large parts of Iraq, would have their ontology, the Greek Orthodox Church would have theirs. These ontologies are then available in the the customised consumer app, the first of which is the Quran.

The Foundation will have to form ties with each community to get stamps of approval on those curated data sets, but isn't there to make judgement calls, unless the ideology calls to violence against others or charges for enlightenment.

Part of the inspiration for this was the Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy: https://qz.com/480741/this-free-online-encyclopedia-has-achieved-what-wikipedia-can-only-dream-of/ and the work of Claude Shannon

2. Community is everything and we underemphasised that we want active and engaged members from each ideology on the platform to be organised not only to create and collate resources (digital and real life), but to answer questions in a safe area both from members of their own ideology wanting to learn more and those from outside with genuine questions. For the trolls and those looking to engage in apologetics we have some plans to allow them their own arena.

For Islam in particular the resources for 1.6 billion are pretty poor, there is nothing like www.logos.com or even near it meaning that while there is huge engagement with the Quran (93% of Muslims iirc) there is minimal understanding, or even knowledge of where to go for understanding..

Same for non-Muslims, where reliably can they go for a smooth, well-thought-out, trustworthy set of information?

That's what makes this so interesting.

Fingers crossed.
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I think there is as big an issue with the left misunderstanding the right as the right misunderstanding the left.

This excerpt from The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt is pertinent:

https://twitter.com/edwest/status/838691283094933504

It's only getting worse
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Great project,,good luck and succes to ANA coins
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i want reserve indonesian translation if you need
maybe if open ico selling you need promotion use signature campaign, is enough use bounty campaign payment use anacoin

Hi SimpeleSimpele,

We may do a signature campaign for the main ICO, we reserved 200,000 Anacoins for bounties but have only allocated 150,000 so far.

We have some Indonesian translation in the works, but there are also bounties for moderation and managing the Indonesian community, we think that this resource will be particularly valuable in Indonesia given recent developments, for example the recent Ahok court case.

For those reading this thread who do not know the circumstances of this, you can see the details here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/indonesia-ahok-muslim/523002/

In summary, the Christian Governor of Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, was alleged to have defamed the Quran by saying that his opponents use of verse 51 of the fifth chapter of the Quran, known as al Maidah (the feast) was intended to "threaten and deceive" and might make some of the citizens not vote for him.

The governor had to step down in May after being convicted of blasphemy with a potential two year jail sentence (lots of politics around that.. was even more than the prosecutor asked for..).

As noted in the whitepaper and our website, our first focus at Ananas is the Quran, before branching out into other scriptures and non-religious ideologies as we get a critical mass of researchers and members of the appropriate communities.

As the platform grows, any individual so inclined would be able to dig into as much depth as they wanted on the nuances of Quran 5:51 and the interpretative traditions around it, including whether certain interpretations were acceptable within the analytical framework of, for example, the Yemeni-Shafi branch of Sunni Islam which is prevalent in Indonesia, at least up to the point of reasonable doubt.

With a centralised, "objective subjective" point of reference like this, politicisation of reilgion can occur extremely easily as it has here, where the interpretative tradition has sufficient flexibility to confirm that Ahok did not blaspheme.

Given the traditionally localised structure of Islam in Indonesia and emergence of hypertextualism that has hidden inside it, we wouldn't be surprised to see more cases like this and the emergence of a very literalist, non-contextual set of politics gaining ground.

So if any Indonesians (or those from any country!) would like to help in any way, please do email us at [email protected] or join our slack.

For the record, I personally think that blasphemy laws are counter-productive and should be scrapped and hope this ruling is overturned on appeal (even the prosecutor appealed (!)).
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Many religions in the world, each sect living habits are all different, so will produce different view of the world, the terrorist organization is anti-human,only thus can make local war, is need to fight terrorism, human beings need peace.
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