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Topic: [ANN] [ASIC-RESISTANT] UltraCoin (UTC) - Ultrafast 6 second transactions!! - page 30. (Read 946599 times)

legendary
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Traveling in subspace
I started mining @ ultracoinpool.info and it gives 8MH/s pool hash rate, but only 4MH/s net hash rate. Isn't that strange?

I reached about 650h for 280x with intensity 8 in settings. Is that okay?
What is 650h? If you're talking about 650kh/s then something with your setup. At current N factor you're not going to get anywhere near that hash rate. IMHO mining with high end cards at the current N factor is not very efficient.
sr. member
Activity: 416
Merit: 250
WHAT IS GOING ON???

One pool gives 50% orphans, and the other:

3,747.83% - Of Expected Shares
Last Hour  -  Percentage  -  205.84%
Last 24 Hours  -  Percentage  -  183.32%

Is it N-Factor changing day Cheesy
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
I started mining @ ultracoinpool.info and it gives 8MH/s pool hash rate, but only 4MH/s net hash rate. Isn't that strange?

I reached about 650h for 280x with intensity 8 in settings. Is that okay?
sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 250
Hello guys,

I have a rig with 4 x 280x, 4gb RAM and latest AMD drivers 14.6 rc. Every settings I tried gave me only HW.

Is it possible to mine UltraCoin with this machine or I should buy more RAM? Or may be I should install some old drivers?

Thanks for the help.

Hello
No it is not possible with this drivers. You need to downgrade to 13.12.

Then you may mine UTC directly or you can try mining at multipool ( http://www.cryptotrain.net/ ) using this guide: http://ultracointalk.org/index.php?topic=136.0

Great to have new miners here Smiley

Thanks!

As far as I'm downgrading to 13.12 I would prefer directly UTC mining. So the UTC mining has nothing to do with my 4gb of RAM... it's perfectly enough?
No problem Smiley As for the RAM, honestly I have no idea. There might be a problem but I'm not sure, you must try and see for yourself. If any errors occur just tweak your settings.
legendary
Activity: 2321
Merit: 1292
Encrypted Money, Baby!
So block 450.000 is gonna be the last block before POS gets in?

Current block: 441900
8100 blocks to go
~ 2 blocks per minute (?)
4050 minutes
67 hour
2,8 days from now...??

So about 3 days before UTC will rock again?

When will the asics arrive in Holland?

When will V2 crypto-trade be ready?  Tongue

First we gonna win the world championship soccer.....then the rest will follow
Well, could be. Actually, you have the easier opponent (Argentina, right?). We have to beat Brazil, the host himself, today. Won't be easy, but if we manage to, we'll meet in the finals Smiley

Hmmm....that was not easy?Huh

Today Holland will have his revanch for the stolen World Cup of 1978 Argentina - The Netherlands played in Argentina.

On sunday the revanch for the stolen World Cup from 1974 Germany - The Netherlands played in Germany.
To be honest: I think nobody expected that kind of result. But if Netherlands win today, I'll be fine with any result of the final match. Smiley

And... Yeah. I felt quite sorry for Brazil, yesterday. Must be hard to set quite some negative records in the semifinals while being the host.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Hello guys,

I have a rig with 4 x 280x, 4gb RAM and latest AMD drivers 14.6 rc. Every settings I tried gave me only HW.

Is it possible to mine UltraCoin with this machine or I should buy more RAM? Or may be I should install some old drivers?

Thanks for the help.

Hello
No it is not possible with this drivers. You need to downgrade to 13.12.

Then you may mine UTC directly or you can try mining at multipool ( http://www.cryptotrain.net/ ) using this guide: http://ultracointalk.org/index.php?topic=136.0

Great to have new miners here Smiley

Thanks!

As far as I'm downgrading to 13.12 I would prefer directly UTC mining. So the UTC mining has nothing to do with my 4gb of RAM... it's perfectly enough?
sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 250
Hello guys,

I have a rig with 4 x 280x, 4gb RAM and latest AMD drivers 14.6 rc. Every settings I tried gave me only HW.

Is it possible to mine UltraCoin with this machine or I should buy more RAM? Or may be I should install some old drivers?

Thanks for the help.

Hello
No it is not possible with this drivers. You need to downgrade to 13.12.

Then you may mine UTC directly or you can try mining at multipool ( http://www.cryptotrain.net/ ) using this guide: http://ultracointalk.org/index.php?topic=136.0

Great to have new miners here Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1076
Merit: 1003
Hello guys,

I have a rig with 4 x 280x, 4gb RAM and latest AMD drivers 14.6 rc. Every settings I tried gave me only HW.

Is it possible to mine UltraCoin with this machine or I should buy more RAM? Or may be I should install some old drivers?

Thanks for the help.

No problem....should work
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Hello guys,

I have a rig with 4 x 280x, 4gb RAM and latest AMD drivers 14.6 rc. Every settings I tried gave me only HW.

Is it possible to mine UltraCoin with this machine or I should buy more RAM? Or may be I should install some old drivers?

Thanks for the help.
legendary
Activity: 1076
Merit: 1003
So block 450.000 is gonna be the last block before POS gets in?

Current block: 441900
8100 blocks to go
~ 2 blocks per minute (?)
4050 minutes
67 hour
2,8 days from now...??

So about 3 days before UTC will rock again?

When will the asics arrive in Holland?

When will V2 crypto-trade be ready?  Tongue

First we gonna win the world championship soccer.....then the rest will follow
Well, could be. Actually, you have the easier opponent (Argentina, right?). We have to beat Brazil, the host himself, today. Won't be easy, but if we manage to, we'll meet in the finals Smiley

Hmmm....that was not easy?Huh

Today Holland will have his revanch for the stolen World Cup of 1978 Argentina - The Netherlands played in Argentina.

On sunday the revanch for the stolen World Cup from 1974 Germany - The Netherlands played in Germany.
full member
Activity: 135
Merit: 100
So block 450.000 is gonna be the last block before POS gets in?

Current block: 441900
8100 blocks to go
~ 2 blocks per minute (?)
4050 minutes
67 hour
2,8 days from now...??

So about 3 days before UTC will rock again?

When will the asics arrive in Holland?

When will V2 crypto-trade be ready?  Tongue

Current block: 444698
5302 blocks to go
~ 2 blocks per minute
2651 minutes
44 hour
1,8 days from now...??

Who will win the word cup? Germany or Holland?   Grin
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
I am not sure when you want to go full PoS but think about getting back at bittrex. They may agree to add UTC in the light of new info.
hero member
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Merit: 501
Scrypt-Jane was a specific implementation of Scrypt-Chacha with pre-programmed N-Factor changes, and fundamentally my problem is that they were poorly chosen. Now we're at the point where things are slowing down, but it's also "too difficult" to get miners up and running, so only those that got in early are still worried about mining UTC. Really, can you imagine anyone new to the cryptocurrency scene saying, "Oh, look at UTC -- I wonder how I can get set up to mine at NF-13?" They can do Scrypt, X11, X13, etc. and mine any of a couple hundred coins, whereas Scrypt-Jane requires tweaking parameters for just one coin (or at least on N-Factor). It's a major pain in the butt! Scrypt-N is practically the same algorithm but with NF changes more widely spaced; in January the first Scrypt-N coin will move to NF-11, and most of the difficulties with that N-Factor are now known; the next change will be in another year or more, so SJ gets to pave the way with little reward for doing so.

I have VERY limited knowledge in the realm of coding. But from what I understand, Scrypt-Jane is a software library and Scrypt-Chacha is a mixing algorithm: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2332885.

You say tweaking the parameters is a "pain in the butt," but I would rather tweak parameters than have to drop thousands on an ASIC just to be profitable. Oh, and when that ASIC is no longer profitable, I have to sell it at the right time because it eventually just becomes an inefficient space heater. Now you are saying Scrypt-N is fine because the scrypt-chacha coins 'paved the way' by showing some people how to tweak their parameters? BTW people will definitely wonder how to mine UTC if it is the most profitable for their GPUs as with anything else. Go to the cudaminer thread... when the 750ti came out, tons of people were mining YACoin because it.was.the.most.profitable. I agree the start of the NFactor schedule was painful but that has passed and the changes are spaced out now and CPUs with high cache are relatively profitable--at least with YAC.

The ironic thing is that all of this was done to "protect us from the evil ASICs", and yet I'm not even convinced ASICs are the real enemy here. This has become a big business, and that means the small fries (you, me, and anyone else that can't invest millions of dollars) are probably just lucky to have gotten in early enough to have made some good earnings. I don't think we'll actually see a fully functional Scrypt-N ASIC in a time frame that will be profitable for the buyers, but the manufacturers of the ASIC will still make money -- or just scam people and disappear with the coins they're paid. But how do you stop that from happening? Government oversight, laws, regulations, etc. are all things that BTC was trying to avoid early on, yet now we're trending more and more towards having all of them. Oops.

I personally would be ok with ASICs if basically all of the companies didn't screw people with empty promises. ASICs, in a way, are a sign of success for a coin. But I think the most successful coin long-term (very) must have one of the best perceptions of being fairly distributed among the most people. Scrypt-Chacha coins are currently the most poised to earn that perception over time, even though the marketcaps currently do not even compare to other algos. YBCoin is the highest chacha coin btw at #26 ($1.5 million).

The power efficiency issue is also real -- I have given up on Scrypt-N and anything else above NF-10 for that reason

What is this power efficiency issue? Scrypt-Chacha uses LESS power as the NFactor increases as I measured myself and posted on this very thread. Do I need to post pictures of my measurements? (serious question)

In regards to reducing the block reward AGAIN or changing to POS, I will quote the guy who created both PeerCoin and PrimeCoin:

Inflation model cannot be changed or market will lose confidence in the currency. It doesn't matter that a majority agree with the change or not. Market often disagrees with majority opinion.

Even just smoothing the sudden drop would be a dangerous exercise as that opens a precedence that inflation model is changeable.
newbie
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There is some kind of error with UTC on CoinMarketCap...
hero member
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Can we all just focus on the progression of UTC instead of fights on this thread, i must say iam getting pretty tired of it..

Fact is that the decision is made to go full POS and it seems it cant be changed anymore.. 

If anyone thinks that it isnt going to work, fine, there are plenty of other coins to concentrate on..

Why come here and spread fud and false accusations..


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Ok so shun the community that everyone keeps saying that the coin and it's success will be built on. Nevermind many of us have been here since the very beginning. Nevermind we have put OUR resources into this coin, nevermind that we have supported, talked about, and marketed this coin on our own. Nevermind everything the community has done, this is a dictatorship and if you don't like the decisions made behind closed doors, get out?!?

Great message you guys are sending to anyone looking to get into this coin. The devs shouldn't be asking for the community support when they have no interest in supporting the community. It's a two way street and a major decision like going full POS (which is a terrible idea) should be discussed in an open forum for all to debate.

Is there even a shred of evidence that going full POS will be beneficial? Who is this supported by besides some "consulted experts". If they are experts why do they need to be so anonymous? If they have such credibility they should stand by it and their consultation to go full POS. Without names they might as well not exist.

The whole notion that simply limiting somehow forces a rise in value is a joke. There are tons of coins out there that have less coins created daily than are sold daily and they are hardly on some sort of magic carpet ride of continuous rise in value.

All this looks like to me is a way to get one final significant pump so that people can get their coins out before values drops another 10 fold.

Bret i wasnt talking about you when i made the comment that there are other coins to support.. There have been quite some false accusations made here, like that the devs were involved in Caishen, that Paul is bumface his 'mate' etc.. the fights between richard en flobdeth, does that do a coin any good you think?

I have nothing against constructive, oppositionary posts, like yours and others in the last page(s).. But there a lot of posters here who oppose the devs and their plans with such a tone, that, even if they are right, it damages the coin as well..

Iam also invested in this coin and i want it to succeed just like you.. But is not going to be if there's not going to be constructional talks. In that light, it would be, i say it again, nice if the devs would join the discussion, havent seen them for a few days here.. ?


member
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Merit: 10

Can we all just focus on the progression of UTC instead of fights on this thread, i must say iam getting pretty tired of it..

Fact is that the decision is made to go full POS and it seems it cant be changed anymore.. 

If anyone thinks that it isnt going to work, fine, there are plenty of other coins to concentrate on..

Why come here and spread fud and false accusations..


+100

Ok so shun the community that everyone keeps saying that the coin and it's success will be built on. Nevermind many of us have been here since the very beginning. Nevermind we have put OUR resources into this coin, nevermind that we have supported, talked about, and marketed this coin on our own. Nevermind everything the community has done, this is a dictatorship and if you don't like the decisions made behind closed doors, get out?!?

Great message you guys are sending to anyone looking to get into this coin. The devs shouldn't be asking for the community support when they have no interest in supporting the community. It's a two way street and a major decision like going full POS (which is a terrible idea) should be discussed in an open forum for all to debate.

Is there even a shred of evidence that going full POS will be beneficial? Who is this supported by besides some "consulted experts". If they are experts why do they need to be so anonymous? If they have such credibility they should stand by it and their consultation to go full POS. Without names they might as well not exist.

The whole notion that simply limiting somehow forces a rise in value is a joke. There are tons of coins out there that have less coins created daily than are sold daily and they are hardly on some sort of magic carpet ride of continuous rise in value.

All this looks like to me is a way to get one final significant pump so that people can get their coins out before values drops another 10 fold.
member
Activity: 76
Merit: 10

Can we all just focus on the progression of UTC instead of fights on this thread, i must say iam getting pretty tired of it..

Fact is that the decision is made to go full POS and it seems it cant be changed anymore.. 

If anyone thinks that it isnt going to work, fine, there are plenty of other coins to concentrate on..

Why come here and spread fud and false accusations..


+100


@ Marnie1976

So put aside the idea that the decision to go full POS can't be unchanged for sec. Just for a sec.... What do you think about forking UTC to build in new updated features as described by trogdorjw73. We could do both really, The Devs could add some new features and we could do a soft-relaunch and if doesn't help we can still go full POS if it benefits the coin.

UTC is still a solid coin, but there seems like a lot more negative attitudes towards going to full POS, than doing zero. I'm not trying to be difficult but personally I like the idea of UTC being innovative and breathing enough new features into UTC that it puts it back on the map.



sr. member
Activity: 275
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Can we all just focus on the progression of UTC instead of fights on this thread, i must say iam getting pretty tired of it..

Fact is that the decision is made to go full POS and it seems it cant be changed anymore.. 

If anyone thinks that it isnt going to work, fine, there are plenty of other coins to concentrate on..

Why come here and spread fud and false accusations..


+100
full member
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