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Topic: [ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens, solving the liquidity problem - page 319. (Read 375744 times)

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I'm still not seeing this. I log in with messenger and it just takes me to messenger. When I created an account with Bancor to claim bounty coins I initially signed up with my email and a password. I did not with these 3rd party services and hence my account is not associated with these 3rd party services.

The communication from Bancor is shockingly bad.




Anyone having issues logging in from this page?

https://app.bancor.network 

I only see an option to login with Messenger/Telegram/Wechat but this is not how I had created an account initially, so I can't login.

You have to click one of the options Messenger/Telegram/Wechat to login. First you should have an account. Then you will be fine to login.

Why don't you take it up with them via private message? What is there that we can do about it?
sr. member
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Crypto is Life!
Anyone selling Bnt at ICO price, PM me! Smiley
newbie
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I'm still not seeing this. I log in with messenger and it just takes me to messenger. When I created an account with Bancor to claim bounty coins I initially signed up with my email and a password. I did not with these 3rd party services and hence my account is not associated with these 3rd party services.

The communication from Bancor is shockingly bad.




Anyone having issues logging in from this page?

https://app.bancor.network 

I only see an option to login with Messenger/Telegram/Wechat but this is not how I had created an account initially, so I can't login.

You have to click one of the options Messenger/Telegram/Wechat to login. First you should have an account. Then you will be fine to login.
sr. member
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can anyone tell what was the ico price for 1 BNT ?

0.01 ETH

so price didnt move almost ? 0.01213 btc was ico price now its 0.0150, right ?

I don't know about BTC, it depends on the exchange rate used, but yes, it has moved very little as expressed in ETH.  Cool
sr. member
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I think Bancor will be an epic bubble! Gonna get big

If ETH breaks out and give another moon shot... BNT will surely follow!  Grin
sr. member
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can anyone tell what was the ico price for 1 BNT ?

0.01 ETH

so price didnt move almost ? 0.01213 btc was ico price now its 0.0150, right ?
sr. member
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can anyone tell what was the ico price for 1 BNT ?

0.01 ETH
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giants may cry too
I think Bancor will be an epic bubble! Gonna get big
sr. member
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can anyone tell what was the ico price for 1 BNT ?
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does somebody knows  when we can change   BNCHDL  bounty tokens  to  bnt  ?
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The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
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Just a question : how many of you did really understand how bancor works?
How many really understand the difference between trade bancor over an exchange (where price is made by humans) or directly from the bancor contract address (where price is made by the algorithm).

A lot of confusion here  Roll Eyes

Yes, sir. too much complicated to trade without knowing how much get even sell or buy. i can not see the worth of 140m$ fundraising for this project.
bye on this project, sold my BNT, do not see any value
sr. member
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TOTAL SUPPLY
81.862M  Cheesy


With each purchase through smart contract , new bnt will be created (bnt is unlimited) . Hence the supply increase , and this increase the value too

Won't this constantly dilute the value of existing tokens? Why should anyone hold then?
Having a problem grasping this too.

If they are constantly upping the supply the price will just remain stagnant..at least according to the laws of supply and demand

You should read the whole whitepaper or Faq.

https://www.bancor.network/faq/general
'Smart tokens are compatible with the ERC20 standard and can be used by any software that supports this standard, such as Ethereum wallets. However, smart tokens offer additional functionality not available to regular tokens. Each smart token holds a reserve balance in one or more other ERC20 tokens, thereby enabling anyone to exchange between itself and any of its reserve token(s). The smart token’s smart contract issues new tokens (expanding the supply) to anyone who purchases it with any of its reserve tokens, and withdraws tokens from the reserves (contracting supply) for anyone choosing to liquidate the smart token. The price of a smart token vis-a-vis any of its reserve tokens is calculated as a ratio between the current smart token’s supply and its reserve balance, at the pre-set CRR (Constant Reserve Ratio.)
Please read our white paper available on the Bancor website for more detailed information about these formulas and their proofs. Essentially, a smart token’s price will always strive to balance supply and demand for the smart token, meaning that when it is being purchased the price is climbing, and when it is being sold, the price is dropping, in relative proportion to the respective transaction sizes.


Now the activation of smart contract is just the beginning. This smart contract just the basis of bancor.

Bancor network token (bnt) will be used as a default reserve when people want to create smart token in its platform.

The BANCOR network token is the Genesis smart token to be deployed, establishing the BANCOR network, functioning as its native currency. The BANCOR token will hold a reserve in ETH.

BANCOR tokens will be issued in a crowdsale. The crowdsale proceeds will be used to deploy and continuously evolve a user-friendly web/chatbot interface for issuing and using tokens in the BANCOR network, to support various efforts for growing the network such as investing in the reserves of new tokens, and to make the initial deposits required to set up a new type of high liquidity decentralized token exchange network based on the Bancor protocol, using 100% CRR token changers.

All smart tokens issued within the Bancor network will hold the BANCOR token as a reserve (though they may also hold additional reserve tokens.) This means that an appreciation in the value of any of the network’s smart tokens will appreciate the value of the BANCOR network token, benefiting all other smart tokens in the BANCOR network, since their reserve balance value will increase.

BANCOR will also be used as a reserve for the token changers that make up its decentralized exchange network. A BANCOR token changer is basically a smart token that holds a 50% CRR reserve in BANCOR, and 50% CRR reserve in an existing, standard ERC 20 token (e.g. REP, GNT, RLC) allowing end-users to easily convert between the two by buying the smart token with one reserve token and selling it for the other. In the future, Bancor plans to support additional tokens as well.


Tldr: bnt wont stagnant
hero member
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The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
TOTAL SUPPLY
81.862M  Cheesy


With each purchase through smart contract , new bnt will be created (bnt is unlimited) . Hence the supply increase , and this increase the value too

Won't this constantly dilute the value of existing tokens? Why should anyone hold then?
Having a problem grasping this too.

If they are constantly upping the supply the price will just remain stagnant..at least according to the laws of supply and demand

Contract price increases with increasing supply, read the white paper Wink
newbie
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TOTAL SUPPLY
81.862M  Cheesy


With each purchase through smart contract , new bnt will be created (bnt is unlimited) . Hence the supply increase , and this increase the value too

Won't this constantly dilute the value of existing tokens? Why should anyone hold then?
Having a problem grasping this too.

If they are constantly upping the supply the price will just remain stagnant..at least according to the laws of supply and demand
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 252

Anyone having issues logging in from this page?

https://app.bancor.network 

I only see an option to login with Messenger/Telegram/Wechat but this is not how I had created an account initially, so I can't login.

You have to click one of the options Messenger/Telegram/Wechat to login. First you should have an account. Then you will be fine to login.
full member
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Just a question : how many of you did really understand how bancor works?
How many really understand the difference between trade bancor over an exchange (where price is made by humans) or directly from the bancor contract address (where price is made by the algorithm).

A lot of confusion here  Roll Eyes

I'll be honest. I had no idea how bancor trade works directly over contract address but I googled and read the official blog to learn all about it.

It's a fascinating concept to use smart contracts for trading but what determines the price they are exchanging tokens at?

"USING THIS CONTRACT WILL PURCHASE BNT AT THE PRICE EFFECTIVE WHEN THE TRANSACTION IS PROCESSED. THERE IS NO WAY TO LIMIT THE PRICE."

This is very ambiguous to say the least. I'd rather trust an exchange where humans trade rather than an algorithm deciding the price for me especially when there is no way to know beforehand the rate I'll get.


Check the current smart contract price in their official website


https://www.bancor.network/bnt

But the question remains. Where does Bancor derive it's price from? On an exchange, it's simple supply and demand dynamics.

Edit: Ok the previous post answers my question. Thanks.
sr. member
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TOTAL SUPPLY
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With each purchase through smart contract , new bnt will be created (bnt is unlimited) . Hence the supply increase , and this increase the value too

Won't this constantly dilute the value of existing tokens? Why should anyone hold then?
Its so fckng different from other token out there.
I just wrote  there that with the number in circulation increase the value of bnt increase, is that so hard to grasp?

https://www.bancor.network/faq/general
'Smart tokens are compatible with the ERC20 standard and can be used by any software that supports this standard, such as Ethereum wallets. However, smart tokens offer additional functionality not available to regular tokens. Each smart token holds a reserve balance in one or more other ERC20 tokens, thereby enabling anyone to exchange between itself and any of its reserve token(s). The smart token’s smart contract issues new tokens (expanding the supply) to anyone who purchases it with any of its reserve tokens, and withdraws tokens from the reserves (contracting supply) for anyone choosing to liquidate the smart token. The price of a smart token vis-a-vis any of its reserve tokens is calculated as a ratio between the current smart token’s supply and its reserve balance, at the pre-set CRR (Constant Reserve Ratio.)
Please read our white paper available on the Bancor website for more detailed information about these formulas and their proofs. Essentially, a smart token’s price will always strive to balance supply and demand for the smart token, meaning that when it is being purchased the price is climbing, and when it is being sold, the price is dropping, in relative proportion to the respective transaction sizes.



https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ns5fS7CvHyZyoxXC0GJWxd_ncsB04F3iAOb2dHHmtJY/htmlview#gid=877776767


https://medium.com/@racooma/the-simplest-pricing-simulation-about-bancor-bnt-6d3e6e783e2?source=linkShare-d84efd6f4258-1497536359
sr. member
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What matters is that anyone who wishes to push the market price of BNT below 0.01 ETH will have to spend a 120k in ETH (or spend less and encourage others to sell below 0.01 ETH). Even if they could afford it, it will not be profitable for them to do so. That being said, there will probably be people that sell their BNT for less in the open market, but it is certainly not the best course of action. Anything less than 0.01 ETH will be snapped up like a lightning strike!  Grin

P.S. Whales can push the price upwards and dump some along the way, but it will not be profitable to go below the 0.01 ETH mark.  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 504
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Just a question : how many of you did really understand how bancor works?
How many really understand the difference between trade bancor over an exchange (where price is made by humans) or directly from the bancor contract address (where price is made by the algorithm).

A lot of confusion here  Roll Eyes

I'll be honest. I had no idea how bancor trade works directly over contract address but I googled and read the official blog to learn all about it.

It's a fascinating concept to use smart contracts for trading but what determines the price they are exchanging tokens at?

"USING THIS CONTRACT WILL PURCHASE BNT AT THE PRICE EFFECTIVE WHEN THE TRANSACTION IS PROCESSED. THERE IS NO WAY TO LIMIT THE PRICE."

This is very ambiguous to say the least. I'd rather trust an exchange where humans trade rather than an algorithm deciding the price for me especially when there is no way to know beforehand the rate I'll get.


Check the current smart contract price in their official website


https://www.bancor.network/bnt
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