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Topic: 📣📣📣 [ANN] 👉 BESTMIXER.IO 👈 THE FUTURE OF BITCOIN MIXING! TECHNOLOGY IS HERE - page 5. (Read 25815 times)

legendary
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why do you have a red trust
You can read them in his trust page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1721098

Basically, people think he is untrustworthy because he is “Spreading lies about Wasabi wallet (and CoinJoin) to make their own centralized mixer look superior, causing potential customers being intentionally mislead“;

P.S: The above was taken directly from the neg trust feedback of one of the users.
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Dear Friends,

BestMixer is becoming more popular all over the world.
We would like to share with you the latest publications about the service in different languages:

in Spanish

BestMixer.IO pretende ser la mejor mezcladora de Bitcoin al proporcionar el anonimato verdadero a las criptomonedas
in Turkish
BestMixer.IO, gerçek kripto para anonimleştirmesi sağlayarak en iyi Bitcoin mikseri olmayı hedefliyor
in Portuguese
BestMixer.io lança Bitcoin Tumbler focado em anonimato e velocidade
and in English
BestMixer.IO Aims to Be The Top Bitcoin Blender by Providing True Cryptocurrency Anonymization

The nearest time we are planning to make some new updates.
Expect details soon.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
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Dear Pudel1975,

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Can you please tell us who you are? Who is behing BestMixer?

We have explained who we are here https://bestmixer.io/en/contacts

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Most importantly, what is guarantee that you don't keep logs?

We guarantee to delete all information on the completed order after 24 hours.
This question was discussed several times in our thread before, and also described on the website in the
FAQ section.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
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The fact that you are a ‘legitimate company’ only aggravates the situation. Unfortunately, the reality is that for some concerned groups of people ‘Privacy rights are no joke’ is a joke.

Can you please tell us who you are? Who is behing BestMixer?


Most importantly, what is guarantee that you don't keep logs?
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Dear Nopara73,

if anyone prefers to use CoinJoin it's his right.
We ensure the confidentiality of cryptocurrencies anonymization for our customers only.

Your obvious advertising of your product in our thread is unacceptable.
Your own thread would be much better for that.
We know your product. We don't share your opinion about it, however we appreciate your sincere impulse to make bitcoin confidential. Let only your personal delusions not harm your customers. As a matter of fact, we cannot offer you a job in our project.


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Everyone may know the addresses, but not the identities, nor the links between the addresses. That is the point of mixing.

You are very naive since everyone knows your addresses. When after using your service somebody sends his coins to an exchange or to any service burdened with KYC & AML, he gets a block. It's only a matter of time when your addresses get blacklisted automatically. And this situation will be irreversible. The fact that you are a ‘legitimate company’ only aggravates the situation. Unfortunately, the reality is that for some concerned groups of people ‘Privacy rights are no joke’ is a joke.

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Your transactions are just as easy to identify with a blockchain analysis tool

This is not possible with all mixing options, such as multi-recipient sending, time delays, and so on. Read the ChainAlysis reports, they wrote about it.

Your readers would be grateful to you if you supported your categorical conclusions with at least some real facts. Your purely subjective conclusions in your articles end with very vague phrases and unimpressive derivation as:

«My guess is, Blockchain Analysis is most likely incapable to take full advantage of these weaknesses. Of course, since it is close to impossible to figure out what they can and cannot do, you have no choice but to rely on my expert intuition, which is based on some gossips I’ve heard here and there.»


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Really? I have three years of research all over the internet, over 200 articles and tens of thousands of GitHub commits on privacy projects to put up against that ad hominem argument.

We would like to thank you for spending a part of your life studying our project and covering your opinion about it on the Internet. By posting your opinion in the thread of our project, you obviously expected to get an appreciation and good advice from us.
It feels like the knowledge that overwhelms you does not fit in our thread, so try to create your own thread and share it there.


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With your mixer, people will have to trust you not running away with coins or passing on data to third parties. You are intentionally spreading lies about Wasabi wallet and have clearly no idea how CoinJoin works. Why would anyone choose a centralized mixer over a truely trustless and open source mixer?

This issue has been discussed more than once in our thread.
CoinJoin and BestMixer use completely different technologies. In our opinion, the technology of CoinJoin is ill-suited for anonymization. Otherwise we would use it.

P.S. This is the last time we enter into a discussion with you about your service in our thread.
Private messages are welcome.

BestMixer Team
legendary
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Is yours also open-source code?
If not, how can we be sure that you are not just a honeypot of the chainalysis companies? Just trust?

You're confusing the concepts of technology: there's a difference between a client application and a web service.

Wasabiwąllet is an application to install on your PC. Open-source code is required in this case.

Our service is on the Internet, so the providing source code to everyone can threaten the security of our system and the safety of our customers.

Nopara73 is a highly respected developer in the cryptocurrency/cryptography community. Even though it is safe to download Wasabi wallet from the official Github, anyone can still verify its sourcecode because it is open source.

With your mixer, people will have to trust you not running away with coins or passing on data to third parties. You are intentionally spreading lies about Wasabi wallet and have clearly no idea how CoinJoin works. Your behaviour is clearly untrustworthy. You are intentionally misleading people, hoping they will use your service. Why would anyone choose a centralized mixer over a truely trustless and open source mixer?
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Hi there,

I understand that the launch of Wasabi is not the best for your business, but please, let's try to keep things factual.
Before I get into your specific comments, I'd like to note that I greatly appreciate your work on Bitcoin privacy and I cannot imagine how it may feel to rule the market, then one day another wallet comes along with a service that does the same that you do, except in a way that it doesn't take possession over user's money, nor cryptographically able to deanonymize them, and on top of those, it even undercuts your service fees 10 times.
If you would like to, please consider applying for a job at Wasabi, I am positive that we will be able to use your valuable expertise and experience somehow.

The main problem of Wasabiwąllet is that EVERYONE knows the incoming address and EVERYONE knows the receiving addresses.

Everyone may know the addresses, but not the identities, nor the links between the addresses. That is the point of mixing.

Such companies as Chainalysis will not investigate who is who, and analyze transactions, amounts, etc. They will mark the incoming and receiving Wasabiwąllet addresses with a special flag — 'suspect'. The moment the global filter starts and you want to send your coins to the exchange, your transaction will be blocked.

Your transactions are just as easy to identify with a blockchain analysis tool, so your blacklisting argument is null. Furthermore you are not even trying to use equal amounts, so your mixes can be deanonymize by subset-sum analysis, simply by looking at the incoming and outgoing amounts.
Plus we are a legitimate company and if we would notice that any of the CoinJoin outputs get blacklisted, we would be ready to fight for a precedence to make sure it never happens in the future. Privacy rights are no joke.

BestMixer is better because we understand how blockchain analysis works and we know how to protect our customers' anonymity.

Really? I have three years of research all over the internet, over 200 articles and tens of thousands of GitHub commits on privacy projects to put up against that ad hominem argument.


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Are there also real-time statistics anywhere about how many BTC BestMixer has mixed so far?
The demonstration of any financial statistics threatens the anonymity of our customers. We will never publish this data.

Actually there is, search for "Elliptic Report". It's a great, while terribly worded report by a blockchain analysis company on Bitcoin mixing. 
Sorry for not using references in this post, as you noted, the previous commenter's posts has been removed, because he posted a link.

Oh, and one more thing. If anyone is interested search for "Traditional Bitcoin Mixers", I believe I succeeded to put together a great analysis on this type of services.
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Dear Friends,

we have to increase a Service fee of LTC and BCH mixing in Alpha, Beta and Gamma pools due to the low demand for these cryptocurrencies among our customers.
As soon as the interest and volume of mixing of these cryptocurrencies increase, we will return to the previous rates.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
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It’s not the destination, it’s the journey.
May you enjoy each day of your adventure.


Best New Year wishes!
newbie
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Wasabiwąllet is a good solution only for its creator, not for its customers.


Wasabiwallet is excellent while "best mixer" is good only for you and (stupid) criminals who don't mind paying high fees to mix their Bitcoin with other criminals (LOL).

I understand that you have to charge high fees, because all those PR articles are not cheap, but why would any sane person pay 1-5% to exchange Bitcoin to Bitcoin, while he can't even be sure that you are not keeping logs?
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Warmest thoughts and best wishes for a wonderful Christmas!
May peace, love, and prosperity follow you always!



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Dear Friends,

the service is fully restored now. The unscheduled technical work has been completed successfully.
All orders will be processed according to your settings. You can check the status of your order on the order page.
Once again, we bring our apologize for this inconvenience.
Thank you all for keeping patient and trusting our service.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
newbie
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So why you refuse to send back my coins? As I sent you emails I can't wait for next day untill you promisses recover time?
If ever you will be back and I can put hands back on my coins I will recommend you next time to plan ahead and let customers know you planning shut down your site completely for more than 24 hrs.at least now it look unprofessional....
Let see what will happend.

EDIT:
Hopefully coins came back at 21:30 after whole day of waiting, in one time instead my planned schedule of mixing, of course minus their fee.
I used this service since they start their operation, but this was a last time...something fishy there now.
Pushed me to use email and posting on several forums...
Enough for me! I do not trust you anymore!
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Dear Friends,

there are the technical works in our data center.
The team was informed about a deadline for completion of work before 17th of December 10:00 UTC 0.
In the earlier posts in bitcointalk we described the principle of work of modular architecture: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40971198 .
Everything in our project is done for your safety and anonymity.
We will inform you about the completion of the technical work immediately in this thread, perhaps even earlier than the above-mentioned date.
We answer all questions sent to our email.
No request is left unanswered.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
newbie
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Why my post about stucked coins in bestmixer.io getting deleted from thread?
I sent my coins there before they went down, page showing 404, no reply on emails either on PM here, why you just not send coins back to me? Anyone else in same shit? Can't afford to wait untill tommorow and get suprise if they will continue or not. 404 on the page is not maintanance guys.... Angry
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Dear Friends,

the service is not available until 17th of December 10:00 UTC 0
There is some unscheduled technical work in our DC.
We bring our apologizes for this inconvenience.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
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Dear Friends,

we would like to inform you that our service has now been translated into
Hindi too.
The nearest days we expect one more language.

Best regards,
BestMixer Team
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