Topic: [ANN] BETARIGS.COM - Cryptocurrency cloud mining - thousands of rigs available! - page 70. (Read 200998 times)

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But in all seriousness, I definitely wouldn't consider this a scam.

Think of it like going to a store that doesn't have a return policy. You expect to buy something for $10 and upon checkout it turns out that the sale is over and the item is actually $15. If you put you card in the terminal and enter your pin it is assumed that you're aware of how much you're paying and you agree to pay it. Now you could later go back to the store owner and say "I thought this was on sale, that's why I bought it. Can I have a refund?" and the store owner can give you a refund if they want but it is up to them. In a situation like this your best bet is to very politely explain that you made a mistake and if you could possibly have the difference refunded. A human approach will usually get you more understanding as we're all human and make mistakes, while fighting and demanding will usually get you nowhere in a situation where the owner technically did nothing wrong and has no obligation to refund you other than out of the goodness of their heart.

TL:DR
It sucks that you overpaid but this is not a scam in any way. If you rent a rig and don't check the price you're renting at you can still avoid the mistake by having a second chance to check before you send the money from your wallet to betarigs. If you miss both checks you can't go and blame the owner. Just try to reach out and politely explain your situation and hope the owner is in a good mood.

That's my two satoshis...

Is there a way to solomine using a cloudminer? I really hate relying on pools at launch. If there's an easy way to create your own pool, let me know.

Hi, invactus, namely sonysasankan, how was your dinner purchased by scamming people? Stop making excuses for yourself.

Why did you create a new account on this bitcointalk? Because you feel guilty!

Hi everyone..how are you guys doing?

Get ready for some popcorns...

OK...lets start....

Dear emmettoc,

I give you 2 scenarios:


Lastly, enjoy 

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We will then take care of refunding them.

General announce: The time window to pay has now been reduced to 30 minutes.

For people sending from exchanges/online wallet that sometimes, randomly, takes quite some time, I recommend you strongly Electrum -- instant sending of bitcoins!

Opened. But I have a problem with the 23 transactions :/ - all canceled

Open a ticket with the tx id mentioned... should be taken care of in the next round of payments.

Hi b4x!
I think it was my rig you was renting. On my side, I was seeing the "Rented - Waiting payment...", and I had basically given up on having my rig locked again for 30-40 minutes for the 3rd time in a row. Instead, I saw it changed to "not rented" very soon, and reported as cancelled in the history.



Make me think there's really some issues on Betarigs part, then. And maybe the same happened with smoke686 too.

I paid BTC and now I have Payment not received - rental cancelled :/ I see txs on Blockchain :/

Here, second time in a row that smoke686 (which also own 4 rigs, for example: link) rent and don't pay:

as a rig owner, sometimes I just put rental price higher after rig is rented to prevent next rental without having to go into rig options and selecting "rig not avaliable". I guess many users with multiple rigs do that too, hence the seemingly high prices of some rented rigs, but in reality all thsoe rigs are rented at normal prices.

It could be the ^desputed rig is a similar case, whereas rig owner didn't intent n having his rig rented at that moment. But he should at least then get in touch with renter and advise him to issue ticket. I had similar incident when I saw someone accidentally rent my rig. I issued a ticket and had renter refunded. I guess lack of communication from rig owner is an issue here.

Yes. That doesn't excuse the practice in any way. Once you rent the rig you are required to pay. From a user's perspective, navigating from the list, to the individual rig and to the payment form should have the same consistent value proposal. If on the way this changes and the user does not notice, it still doesn't make it ethical or moral to do.

Tricking people by the rules doesn't make you a thief, just an asshole. Buyer beware, this is why ratings mean everything and ripping off a single customer for a small gain can nullify all the previous work you had.

Still on the topic, I saw some users renting rigs for 1 BTC/Mhash. I don't know if they used this trick against unaware newbies, or it was an inside arrangement, but seriously, some people would consider dumping their profitable account for a cool one-time bitcoin scam.

Oh yeah, my alter ego "Invactus" is quite a handful you see... but hey, whatever gets you through the day! Do you even acknowledge that you have a part in this shit you're in? Like you DID blindly pay the asked amount right? Or is that completely oblivious to you?

Before the scammed contract at this time, I rented the same rig with the same hashrate with the fair price. And then when I submitted a form for a next contract, he, namely you, cheated me.

Hi, invactus, please just reply to me on the betarigs, not here.

You can't see that using the feedback system... I could rent 2-3 rigs that used to be 4 MH/s each using three rig numbers for a week, then decide to club them as one 12 MH rig using the first rig's number... and the feedback (and prices) of the first one week (of the 4MH rig) would be populated under the currrently operating 12MH rig. So no.... the superior intellect says that its very much plausable to see double, tripple or quadripple the going rate for a given rig.

I have no idea who he is... but more importantly, does it matter? I am both a renter and an owner, and what bugs me is people like you transferring the consequence of your ignorance to the owners and demanding refund with threats of screwing with their ratings.

So let me get this straight.... before you click on the confirmation button, its right there in bold how much the total payment is going to be right? After that you go ahead and pay the said exact amount to the BTC address... use the service and then demand a refund because hey.... you ain't in the mood for accountability?

Why don't you go into a little more detail on why you are not the scammer here? If I was Invactus, I wouldn't bother to respond to you either. no surprise there!

Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about.

If you look carefully, his current clients are paying more than double the average rate. Try to see what the person is saying before claiming superior intellect. It is perfectly possible to put a low price, and switch it back up after a second, as you just need to be first on the list and have people click your rig. Once they enter a contract, complications appear and people might not even notice the increased price. This is the definition of scamming.

An owner's previously clean score is not a guarantee of perfect service every time.

Imagine someone buying or hacking someone's account for the ratings, then just pillaging unsuspecting newbies for days.

Huh, are you "invactus " or his friend? I'm trying to contact him, but no responses for now just as scammers do.