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Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation Board Election Details Announced - page 3. (Read 19778 times)

sr. member
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Wow, in just this one response you have:
....

No I have not and you know that very well and you don't need to try to interpret our conversation in your personal and subjective way as it is up there for everybody to read and interpret for themselves.

I am thankful that you are daring me like this as you and I are in here for very different reasons and you are stating an example of that difference here. I may quote you from two pages earlier in this thread:

I want Bitcoin to hit four digits against the US dollar and there to be a place for me to exchange my coins without risking a prison term when I do. I realize Bitcoin was founded in extremist ideology and that's great. .... You can love your fellow man and want to over throw the evil government all day long but profit is necessary for business.

So you are here for the profits. And I am here for what you call the 'extremist' ideology from which you now expect to gain your profits of which you wish that the government will allow you to have them Smiley.

I guess you will make a good politician.

I guess I will never and I just prooved that here by loosing your vote entirely.

Joe

sr. member
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black swan hunter
Good luck Joecoin, hope you win since you represent my views and are far more tactful than myself in expressing them.

@Gweedo: Yes, publicly funded libraries are obsolete and a waste of taxpayer money. They should be privatized.

I'll avoid responding to other comments since I'm likely to make another nasty comment if I get wrapped up in the heat of discussion with those who are unlikely to align with my views, and I lost interest in trying to persuade people a long time ago.

As I noted earlier, it is always possible to move to a new blockchain if Bitcoin is compromised.
legendary
Activity: 1500
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I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
I am not working on making the system obsolete. With the advent of the blockchain the system HAS BECOME obsolete, finally.

So by that theory, you must think libraries are also obsolete as the advent of the internet? Well you are extremely wrong in both cases. System has not become obsolete, it has just has to adopted like it has in the past. I swear this sounds like something that Admir would say. Extremist like this are making it harder for legal business owners who pay taxes and still enjoys the fruits of bitcoins to exist. No one in the foundation should be this extremist, this will hurt the foundation and all the little work they have done. This makes the system think we are an enemy and most of us aren't. Also we wouldn't like to be label such as one.

The system is your enemy whether you know it or not.
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Good business will require that Bitcoin representatives play nice with governments and find a niche inside of fiat systems like a low cost Western Union replacement. ... However, they have already opened that Pandora's box and will need someone that can play nice and agree to work within the system instead of working to make the system obsolete.

@QuestionAuthority: is that some kind of extreme authority questioning, almost radical?

Joe

So will your entire campaign platform be based on belittling people that could potentially vote for you or am I the exception to rule?

I am sorry if I made the impression to want to belittle you, I did not.

You will have to admit though that your nick and the above statement (please read it over again!) are somehow contradictory. You basically state that you are questioning authority but at the same time are very willing to obey to it since someone else has already suggested to obey anyways. In case I misinterpreted you you are free to clearify that.

No, I did not walk out to belittle the people who could potentially vote for me but I did not take on this nomination to try to please everyone who could potentially vote for me by watering down my opinions either. Therefor I do not run a middle-of-the-road campaign trying to please everybody with feelgood-blabla. If you think that this honest and integer approach is the wrong one and there should be someone else on the board who is better than me in giving out feelgood-blabla without any substance then you know who to vote! I am no good for 'playing nice' with authorities and I will never be.

... and will need someone that can play nice and agree to work within the system instead of working to make the system obsolete.

I am not working on making the system obsolete. With the advent of the blockchain the system HAS BECOME obsolete, finally.

I believe that crypto currency is going a bit deeper in questioning authority than merely questioning it, it is abolishing financial authority. And I believe that someone who chose the nick 'QuestionAuthority' might as well appreciate that as much as I do. We can't be that far away from each other really.

Joe

Wow, in just this one response you have:

Proven that you failed to read my response to your belittling comment to me providing me with evidence that you don't listen to constituents, don't understand them when they tell you something, or both.
Taken a quote out of context, not directed at you, and used it to twist a line of conversation your direction.
Shown me that you have absolutely no business acumen whatsoever.
Shown me that your understanding of the best use for Bitcoin is on the far reaches of what even the most nutty radical libertarian would think is sane.

I guess you will make a good politician. Good luck with your campaign.
sr. member
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Good business will require that Bitcoin representatives play nice with governments and find a niche inside of fiat systems like a low cost Western Union replacement. ... However, they have already opened that Pandora's box and will need someone that can play nice and agree to work within the system instead of working to make the system obsolete.

@QuestionAuthority: is that some kind of extreme authority questioning, almost radical?

Joe

So will your entire campaign platform be based on belittling people that could potentially vote for you or am I the exception to rule?

I am sorry if I made the impression to want to belittle you, I did not.

You will have to admit though that your nick and the above statement (please read it over again!) are somehow contradictory. You basically state that you are questioning authority but at the same time are very willing to obey to it since someone else has already suggested to obey anyways. In case I misinterpreted you you are free to clearify that.

No, I did not walk out to belittle the people who could potentially vote for me but I did not take on this nomination to try to please everyone who could potentially vote for me by watering down my opinions either. Therefor I do not run a middle-of-the-road campaign trying to please everybody with feelgood-blabla. If you think that this honest and integer approach is the wrong one and there should be someone else on the board who is better than me in giving out feelgood-blabla without any substance then you know who to vote! I am no good for 'playing nice' with authorities and I will never be.

... and will need someone that can play nice and agree to work within the system instead of working to make the system obsolete.

I am not working on making the system obsolete. With the advent of the blockchain the system HAS BECOME obsolete, finally.

I believe that crypto currency is going a bit deeper in questioning authority than merely questioning it, it is abolishing financial authority. And I believe that someone who chose the nick 'QuestionAuthority' might as well appreciate that as much as I do. We can't be that far away from each other really.

Joe




legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
Good business will require that Bitcoin representatives play nice with governments and find a niche inside of fiat systems like a low cost Western Union replacement. ... However, they have already opened that Pandora's box and will need someone that can play nice and agree to work within the system instead of working to make the system obsolete.

@QuestionAuthority: is that some kind of extreme authority questioning, almost radical?

Joe

So will your entire campaign platform be based on belittling people that could potentially vote for you or am I the exception to rule?
legendary
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HoneybadgerOfMoney.com Weed4bitcoin.com
vote....for franenmint
sr. member
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The bitcoin foundation is significantly orthogonal to the general bitcoin community and the project itself.

I don't know if it is orthoganal but at least it right now seems to represent only a fraction of opinions from only one jurisdiction.

The main reason for me for having accepted the nomination is to help the foundation to clearly position itself and to clearify this question for the whole Bitcoin community. In my opinion, the members of the Foundation will with the result of these elections decide if their organisation will in the future be a SF/DC-Bitcoin-Business-Club or the global roof organisation representing the whole diversity of the international Bitcoin community, which it claimed to want to be when it started and for which, by the way, a lot of non-US-citizens and a lot of people with other stuff than regulation in mind donated a lot of money.

Deciding if that money is now going to be spent on a fancy office space, lawyers and Cocktail-bills in DC or on R&D for decentralised exchange and mixing will make that positioning clear for everybody to see.

I stand for the latter, my strongest opponent for the former. Of course I would love to win and be able to throw my opinion and vote into the decicion-making of the Foundation, but if I loose against Elizabeth I already win again, together with the whole Bitcoin-community:

we will gain clarity. Smiley

To freedom of transaction!

Joe
legendary
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One more reason Joerg Platzer needs to be on the board of the Bitcoin Foundation (yes, if you're a member, you can vote for him!), to show these guys how this is an actual factual thing that happens ON THE STREETS.

Nothing for 'sters and guys in suits.


"This guy is in finance..."

Well THIS guy is ON THE STREET actually WORKING with Bitcoin.

/spamrant
hero member
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weaving spiders come not here
Finance is a gun. Politics is knowing when to pull the trigger.
member
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In my opinion, the board doesn't need software experts or entrepreneurs. The board deals with policy, not software development. I think the best candidate is Ryan Deming. He's a finance guy and Bitcoin is a payment system. You can't find a better fit.

Finance and payment systems have very little to do with each other.
legendary
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I consider "Questionauthority" and others like him to be in the same class of people as the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis

Why you got to be so hateful. Seriously!
member
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The bitcoin foundation is significantly orthogonal to the general bitcoin community and the project itself. Fortunately, political structures are largely irrelevant to a mostly open source software effort.

That depends on if you're interested in bitcoin staying small and niche, or if you're interested in mainstream bitcoin adoption.

I'm interested in the latter.
legendary
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I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
The bitcoin foundation is significantly orthogonal to the general bitcoin community and the project itself. Fortunately, political structures are largely irrelevant to a mostly open source software effort.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
For the record, Rassah was on my short list.

The truth is that we had a large number of great candidates....great candidates who are and will continue to be great stewards of the community. ...
+1 That's the best news of all.  Smiley

Thanks for mentioning that bg002h.

I sincerely hope we don't cut each other down as we try to build the Foundation up. The last thing we want are people leaving the community over the election. A strong foundation will be useful for many things, but, the community is and needs to always be more than the Foundation.

You can never stop the community; the Foundation can technically be stopped, but another similar entity would emerge from the community to take it's place. If that ever happened, and I hope it doesn't, where do you think it would reemerge from? I would bet right here, on bitcointalk.

Wise words.
donator
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I outlived my lifetime membership:)
For the record, Rassah was on my short list.

The truth is that we had a large number of great candidates....great candidates who are and will continue to be great stewards of the community. ...
+1 That's the best news of all.  Smiley

Thanks for mentioning that bg002h.

I sincerely hope we don't cut each other down as we try to build the Foundation up. The last thing we want are people leaving the community over the election. A strong foundation will be useful for many things, but, the community is and needs to always be more than the Foundation.

You can never stop the community; the Foundation can technically be stopped, but another similar entity would emerge from the community to take it's place. If that ever happened, and I hope it doesn't, where do you think it would reemerge from? I would bet right here, on bitcointalk.
sr. member
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Editor-in-Chief of Let's Talk Bitcoin!
I consider "Questionauthority" and others like him to be in the same class of people as the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis

Why you got to be so hateful. Seriously!

Because sometimes people have a hard time differentiating between people they disagree with about minor parts of a much larger issue and inflatable stereotypes they consider the pinnacle of evil.

It's not that their judgement is bad, they just don't have any middle settings between "Don't Care" and "THE END OF THE WORLD"

I guess this means they don't don't care Smiley
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
I consider "Questionauthority" and others like him to be in the same class of people as the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis

I haven't actually flown to Washington and lobbied to be involved in the formation of Bitcoin laws. That would be your foundation doing that. I'm the one that said don't tell them anything. Let them research for themselves. So I guess your foundation and every major Bitcoin businessman is a collaborator. You should really learn to read. Going through life as a dumbass is no way to live.
legendary
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100 satoshis -> ISO code
HAHAHA. Brilliant and so true...
hero member
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I consider "Questionauthority" and others like him to be in the same class of people as the Jews who collaborated with the Nazis

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