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Topic: [ANN] Bitcoinica Consultancy abandons customers. Bitcoinica to enter Liquidation - page 12. (Read 54936 times)

aq
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I just realized that this is you (far left):
Congratulations Phinn, outstanding detective work. You however missed that I'm visible and hearable on the video recordings as well: http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Bitcoin/Bitcoin_Weekend_2011#Recordings.
lonelyminer, I think you missed the point. Since when does Bruno believe that someone is who he actually is?
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It might be that some of you missed this:
Crap. I deleted data I thought wasn't relevent and now I find how they were linked. ~mumblemumble~
*Microsoft Corp. acquired Oslo-based Fast Search & Transfer (FAST)*

Now, Microsoft.com and fda.hhs.gov connect.



And don't forget that AurumXchange and MagicalTux claimed that I worked for Microsoft Singapore at some point in time in 2011.
please contribute relevant information: how is the status of the fiat money return?

Doing that. Finishing by next week.

To my best knowledge the progress of fund recovery has nothing much to do with Bitcoinica fund returns. I spend most of my time waiting for Bitcoinica, bankers, lawyers and the hacker. So contributing irrelevant information doesn't slow down the fund returns to customers. Don't worry!

Hopefully we can look forward in the next couple of days to confirmation by Patrick Murck that the funds are now safely in his possession.
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It might be that some of you missed this:
Crap. I deleted data I thought wasn't relevent and now I find how they were linked. ~mumblemumble~
*Microsoft Corp. acquired Oslo-based Fast Search & Transfer (FAST)*

Now, Microsoft.com and fda.hhs.gov connect.



And don't forget that AurumXchange and MagicalTux claimed that I worked for Microsoft Singapore at some point in time in 2011.
please contribute relevant information: how is the status of the fiat money return?

Doing that. Finishing by next week.

To my best knowledge the progress of fund recovery has nothing much to do with Bitcoinica fund returns. I spend most of my time waiting for Bitcoinica, bankers, lawyers and the hacker. So contributing irrelevant information doesn't slow down the fund returns to customers. Don't worry!
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Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
Is there any update on this stuff guys?  Seems like it has been a while since we have heard anything new. 
It's been less than a week... Of course, with all of the hackings/other drama, I can see how you've come to expect more (bad) news every few days/hours.

It's not necessarily matter of expecting bad news, but wanting to know how long "Chen" will be given to return funds before a receiver is appointed. The possibility exists that "Chen" will not return the full amount promised, so there needs to be a plan to proceed to receivership and liquidation at a certain point in time regardless of whether or not "Chen" has returned the funds by then.  As it's somewhat difficult to believe that a multi-millionaire could not produce $200,000 ($140,000 + 5000 BTC) within a couple of weeks, that timeline should be weeks away at most.
donator
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I just realized that this is you (far left):
Congratulations Phinn, outstanding detective work. You however missed that I'm visible and hearable on the video recordings as well: http://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Project:Bitcoin/Bitcoin_Weekend_2011#Recordings.
legendary
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9.9.2012: I predict that single digits... <- FAIL
(is there a way for gmail to prove that the mail was sent by bitcoinica and not tempered with ?)
You can see the originating server/ip address here:

donator
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No news, just despair.

From : Life after Bitcoinica,,, as a creditor.

...What they certainly don't understand is that, right now, some people cannot live healthily after having invested hearth and money blindly into what they strongly believe being the grandest of projects.

I am not asking them to process the payouts, I am merely asking for a sign of hope.
We don't have confidence that the funds are safe.
We don't have confidence that the incomplete data that could help processing claim is safe.
We don't have confidence that the list of who has been paid is safe.

If safe, ... to what extent ... ?  If both of you die, would that still be safe ? (not secure)

No backup, no security, no communication and being arrogant on top of that. How else than worried should we be feeling ?
...
sr. member
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Waiting for the receiver being appointed. I asked Tihan and he said it will be soon and will be announced.

I am not involved in the process other than being one of the creditors, but my recommendation for the time being is to collect all evidence you have for supporting your claim and be ready to provide it in a form that the receiver requests.

I was wondering about that, what info should we prepare for the receiver.
In my case, i only used BTC to move money in and out of bitcoinica.
Should I provide proof of ownership of incoming BTC addresses ? (If so how ? Is there tools for the receiver to check that ?)
Are the mails of any use ? (is there a way for gmail to prove that the mail was sent by bitcoinica and not tempered with ?)

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Waiting for the receiver being appointed. I asked Tihan and he said it will be soon and will be announced.

I am not involved in the process other than being one of the creditors, but my recommendation for the time being is to collect all evidence you have for supporting your claim and be ready to provide it in a form that the receiver requests.

I just realized that this is you (far left):

donator
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Waiting for the receiver being appointed. I asked Tihan and he said it will be soon and will be announced.

I am not involved in the process other than being one of the creditors, but my recommendation for the time being is to collect all evidence you have for supporting your claim and be ready to provide it in a form that the receiver requests.
legendary
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Is there any update on this stuff guys?  Seems like it has been a while since we have heard anything new. 
It's been less than a week... Of course, with all of the hackings/other drama, I can see how you've come to expect more (bad) news every few days/hours.
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Is there any update on this stuff guys?  Seems like it has been a while since we have heard anything new. 
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Any update on how the recovery of further funds is progressing?

Kinda limbo, but for sure don't expect to see anything in the likes of...

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I am the one who knocks
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Wat

I is apparently "well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account)"

Code:
01[15:23] Phantom, unrelated to intersango, Some of creditors, myself included, would like to know what kind of security is protecting the remaining assets ?  You may understand we are worried given Genjix track record on security.
01[15:23] Thank you
[15:24] <@phantomcircuit> Transist-, that is well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account), also im tired of telling you that this is an inappropriate method of communications
03[15:24] * phantomcircuit sets mode: +b *Transis*!*@*
03[15:25] * You were kicked by phantomcircuit (Transist-)
Session Close: Thu Aug 02 15:25:02 2012

Disgusting! And he wants some respect somehow! What a horrible human being.



It will certainly be interesting to see how he responds to the Bitcoinica LP liquidator's requests for information.

He certainly seems to have no problem leaking someone else's password at Intersango. It should be interesting to see how he responds to legal requests indeed.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/oh-nose-98622

He will tell the lawyer to respect him  Cheesy
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Any update on how the recovery of further funds is progressing?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500

I is apparently "well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account)"

Code:
01[15:23] Phantom, unrelated to intersango, Some of creditors, myself included, would like to know what kind of security is protecting the remaining assets ?  You may understand we are worried given Genjix track record on security.
01[15:23] Thank you
[15:24] <@phantomcircuit> Transist-, that is well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account), also im tired of telling you that this is an inappropriate method of communications
03[15:24] * phantomcircuit sets mode: +b *Transis*!*@*
03[15:25] * You were kicked by phantomcircuit (Transist-)
Session Close: Thu Aug 02 15:25:02 2012

Disgusting! And he wants some respect somehow! What a horrible human being.



It will certainly be interesting to see how he responds to the Bitcoinica LP liquidator's requests for information.

He certainly seems to have no problem leaking someone else's password at Intersango. It should be interesting to see how he responds to legal requests indeed.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/oh-nose-98622
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000

I is apparently "well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account)"

Code:
01[15:23] Phantom, unrelated to intersango, Some of creditors, myself included, would like to know what kind of security is protecting the remaining assets ?  You may understand we are worried given Genjix track record on security.
01[15:23] Thank you
[15:24] <@phantomcircuit> Transist-, that is well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account), also im tired of telling you that this is an inappropriate method of communications
03[15:24] * phantomcircuit sets mode: +b *Transis*!*@*
03[15:25] * You were kicked by phantomcircuit (Transist-)
Session Close: Thu Aug 02 15:25:02 2012

Disgusting! And he wants some respect somehow! What a horrible human being.



It will certainly be interesting to see how he responds to the Bitcoinica LP liquidator's requests for information.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1001
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I is apparently "well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account)"

Code:
01[15:23] Phantom, unrelated to intersango, Some of creditors, myself included, would like to know what kind of security is protecting the remaining assets ?  You may understand we are worried given Genjix track record on security.
01[15:23] Thank you
[15:24] <@phantomcircuit> Transist-, that is well documented in various places (it's all in a frozen mtgox account), also im tired of telling you that this is an inappropriate method of communications
03[15:24] * phantomcircuit sets mode: +b *Transis*!*@*
03[15:25] * You were kicked by phantomcircuit (Transist-)
Session Close: Thu Aug 02 15:25:02 2012

Disgusting! And he wants some respect somehow! What a horrible human being.



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