Topic: [ANN] | BlackCoin Card aka CEX Cards | LibertyCoin Card Coming Soon - page 27. (Read 64625 times)

If that is indeed the case, the answer cannot possibly be more obvious.

Also, upon examination of Soepkip's wallet, a very interesting thing happened on April 6th. He, who only receives staking premiums and takes out "rent money" -per his own admission-, receives 42,660 coins, practically doubling his holdings. Why? from who? we know he has no means to have purchased such amount even at the price at the time (under 8k sat), so where that comes from? Interesting indeed...

I think you misunderstood big time. When maarx referred to 'the PR guy' in the photo, he was referring to the fact that people were referring to him as the PR guy ... when in fact he isn't. At least, that's my understanding, and one that makes the most sense. But then I don't share your perspective ;]  

One more thing I forgot to add in my previous post. Seopkip said he cashes out BC every now and then to "live" since he is not employed and his main source of income is BC. This is a fact provided by Seopkip himself.

Ok so here is Seopkip private address: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/B96Ma83Sbxq5HR6UsPtbGapi9s5ZRHjwNo

He hasn't touched his BC in quite sometime. However, he said his trip to Miami was due to the community. What funds did he use since his personal funds were not touched?
Does Seopkip have another address with more funds in it? And if so why share the public address but not disclose having another address?

Maarx posted this early and no one paid much attention:


So they haven't complete paid the PR firm. Really? I have some questions:

1. So where is the $16,250?
2. Who is controlling/holding those funds?
3. What funds were use to pay for Seopkip's trip to Miami?
4. If Seopkip and/or the members of the Foundation decides to leave BC before June 1st what happens to the funds?
5. Why wasn't it disclosed that the money will be paid in installments?

It seems that Maarx was stating that he also assumed the guy was the from the PR firm but he was really morituri13. I do not think morituri13 works there. However, you raise an interesting point. Why was he there?

That is my understanding of the post from Maarten. If I misunderstood, I will be the first to correct the misunderstanding...

But, I edit, even if I misunderstood, what would be the business of a self proclaimed member of The Black Hand in such a meeting?

I disagree, of course. Nothing subjective about competence. It is most of the time, evident on sight alone; in effect always.

The community, whether IE does any more projects or not, is quite split at this point (that is, again, an objective statement based no only in people who post but on people who PM).

But you can be very easily made right: If the price of Bc were to start going up, even slightly, in the coming week, the ra-ra's would be deafening... such is the fickle nature of communities driven by blind greed. So hope...

Because the exact opposite is bound to happen if the fall continues. Only more virulently so.

Wait a minute. Does Morituri actually work for the PR firm? Are you sure? Can someone please confirm this? If this is true this is a major conflict of interest on so many levels. Not only is it a conflict of interest, they also lied because they said they "searched" and "interviewed" other companies, but settle on MBA. Now how convenient is it that the agency that was selected to represent BC happens to be the employer of one of the members of the "investment group"...

LMAO I can't make this sh!t up!

The Dev comment is subjective. But if you're no longer doing projects, then the community is no longer split.

I was and remain quite critical of some of your initiatives. But never of the card that, being a very profitable business for you, was both innovative and obviously a big push for the Blackcoin.

Now we happen to agree in a lot of points, including that priceless photo and it's evident cost. And, of course, the evidence that this is a boat sinking through several holes. We also agree on Coinkite, which was an absurd thing -it is an absurd thing- to be linked too, because, among other things, it cheapens Blackcoin -now it doesn't need to cheapen it any more-, because it represents absolutely no advancement, nor practical purpose (and has a horrible logo that no one would want associated with the gloriously beautiful one of BC). On the PR we only agree on the surface, because it is an exercise in absurdity for the points you comment and some others, but you don't want to scratch the surface. And I have. And right there, jumping at you in the photo, we have, next to the stoned guy, a pretty active member of this community, "Dognip" and "Morituri 13" both rolled into one who not only happens to work for the PR Company but slipped, publicly, in the original forum, the admission that he was part of The Black Hand (although he called it, discreetly, "a group of investors with no formal contracts, just a few papers signed"). That Black Hand not only made a dash land grab when you, IE, announced your plan, but came in with thousands of dollars for all kinds of projects, the Foundation and their PR but, before, the Titan, given not to BC but to a company completely independent of BC and fully owned by Eugene and StGNU, company to which they have donated heavily prior to the Titan too. Now, mind you, the multipool is owned and operated, again, by the two Joe Sixpacks, NOT the Foundation and most certainly, not BC. Any future profits from the Multipool will go, directly to those two Sixpacks who happen to run The Black Hand too... and everything else in Blackcoin.

That's the surface, quite evident, that you still don't want to scratch. But I have. And what's underneath, is not a pretty -or salvageable at this point- picture.

Now, as the price approaches or breaks 20, a lot of people is going to start feeling inclined to think a bit more and ra-ra quite a bit less.

Of course they will use the priceless photo as their turning point, but such things only contribute to pour more water on an already sinking boat.

Is Soepkip incompetent?
Is the community split?

I changed the title to reflect the truth...

This was posted from the other forum and I wanted to address it here. Not everyone is motivated by money or greed. I do not care about my "investment" because like I said I bought the bulk of my coins when BC was under 1000 sat. some people already figured out I was telling the truth about how many BC I own by doing some basic detective work. However, other people will believe I have thousands of coins, or none. I know the truth and that is all that is relevant. No one will ever know what my motives are except me. So stop focusing on me because it is getting old. Start focusing on the real issue, and that is the dev team and the foundation.

Your Thread Title! Come on now. That's just not fair to people still holding BC.

Well I assume the PR firm is going to do much more than you. But you also hyped up your press releases. You're right things are a little different this time around. The PR campaign announcement wasn't going to do it. We are waiting for a different kind of announcement. It may  be a detailed timeline of the PR campaign with pics (Hopefully some pics with no negative interpretations) or something else.

Well there are customers in the US that should be receiving the BC card soon. Your local area. First class takes 2-3 business days for mainland US.

I'm hoping the community proves you wrong.  So that person putting up the massive Sell Walls a few hours ago wasn't you?

Btw.. blackcoin is one of the few coins that still has active development.. rat4 still doing merge/integrations as far back as 8 hrs ago.. unlike a lot of other coins .

See you are making the mistake most did. If you look at my previous posts when I did my announcements, I always asserted I had "bloggers" going out and "spamming" the news. I did more than just announce or sent out press releases. That is why when the dev/foundation made their announcements nothing happened. It takes more than an announcement to create buzz. And for the record the current price of BC has nothing to do with BC cards or the donations. The dev team doesn't know how to promote it, it is that simple. I read on the other thread Subtuppel will be glad to see me go, and that is the sentiment of some. But the smart investors all know that the day I stopped promoting BC and the community was split was the day BC chances were over and I stand by that.

PS: People need to realize these cards are being shipped First Class Mail. Many people who ordered cards live in countries where First Class Mail takes forever to be delivered. They also need to realize the mail has to pass customers first. I do not control the mail and can't make it go any faster.

If one wins, another(s) always lose. Rock solid rule.
Another one. Hype cant last long. None of the new alts have roots strong and spread enough to hold their hyped price.

We need to face with facts that BC was instamined in 7 days that caused not best distribution.
1.Small amount of BC holders can help in rapid rise but in same time they can easy broke that rapid rise.
When they see that BC is not rising +10% daily they are starting selling off.

2. Look at market movement like coins Doge,LTC,DRK.(those coins amre much more stable)
I was watching how 100BTC buy was eaten on DRK pump on cryptsy.
And DRK got only +30%.
In same time pumping 100BTC to BC can get you much more higher.

3. Look at BC and compare it to NXT eg.
NXT new fresh Code good development today is higher than BC.(eg. trading assents)
but price bounce 0.4-0.9 BTC per 10000NXT for almost one year.
NXT have also much bigger community. So I see that market cap like ~10m-30m is hard to surpass.
BC was rising fast because it was cheap once we get in top 10 we are in range where is very hard to rise more.
Specially when money are slowly leaving crypto today. - this is main reason why we don't rise over all.

Add to all those constant FUDs internal fights don't help BC at all. - next reason of price drop
Some people need to cash out then we will rise again.

Don't forget it only took you a post here about your PR campaign to raise the price. The same could possibly happen again. Then if that little burst gains enough momentum, it could easily rocket back up to 50K sats.

I still believe in BC fundamentally and think a lot of others do too. 1% + 8 hour coin maturity is way better then all those other alt clones. What PoS coin will everyone trade with? BC of course because trading with other PoS coins will screw up their maturity time.  

Ok fair enough. It is going to take weeks if not months before the effects of the PR firm are noticed. The belief that CoinKite is going to make a difference is just not based on reality. BC is going to drop below 20,000 sat and maybe go as low as 15,000 sat before the price increases again, if it increases again.

Believe it or not that PIC of Soepkip was the nail in the coffin for BC. I got a lot of PMs from people perplexed by that. They hired a high profile PR firm to represent a coin they are trying to portray as luxurious, and he goes to the first meeting in beach shorts. Some think it is funny but it isn't. This man is now the face of BC and he made the community look like a joke. Why would ANY future service or company take BC serious when the front man looks like a clown?

Short of forking it last week, the establishment of the Foundation was not preventable. This is something that had been planned on for quite some time. The gritt comment, the spin and the attacks, they weren't going to let that go. There was a post/tweet from coinkite, where was the community organizer? Oh that's right, going to a PR agency in surfer shorts  .