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It's not there age it's there lack of experience. Not all are bad, and many do try to help, but the maturity level in IRC is very young, that is without a doubt. If you don't believe me people, go see for yourself how who the foundation is talking with. They bots that show boobs, if that is any indication of the maturity level there.

But you have no idea what experience they have, or do not have. You are just pulling statements out of thin air.

And who doesn't like !boobs?

Where is soekip in all this? I've asked him publicly to tell us whom runs the twitter and facebook accounts. He's ignored this. That's not transparent. I'm still waiting and we all are. Who runs the social media in the name of the foundation?

It's time to hand over keys soekip if you are part of foundation and part of official face of BC. You can't have it both ways, and I want you to know foundation, i will not stop or let up til we are transparent and open about this. SO trust, I'll be willing to hurt my own investment in BC just to bring down the coup of this coin taking place, and if that tanks the prices, so be it. I'm into cryptos for not just $$$, but the ramification it has for changing the finanical world, and BC could do this. I won't let a small group of foundation investors members pawn off they are not different than the official coin, representing it as if they are.

Down with the foundation, or I'll be that thorn in your side asking the hard questions as new investors keep coming on board, I'll educate them, even in PM if need be. I'll not rest til you guys come forth with what you are doing, and trying to do with this coup. trust, trust.
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Jamieb that is offensive. Why resort to that? I have worked for everything I have in life.

It was not pointed out at you Wink
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Jamieb that is offensive. Why resort to that? I have worked for everything I have in life.
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... it's not gonna happen on our watch.

It has already happened.

Well, then you can expect me and others to keep pointing out the problems with foundations, and your lack of transparcey to the point i"ll hurt my own investment, cause it's not what cryptos are about. You kids have NO right to be doing what your doing. I hope investors here understand this foundation is made up of mostly kids, with little to no real world experience in running a business.

Caught a break for a few... had to comment on this...

Have you ever seen the demographics for crypto currency adoption?!?!  It is almost exclusively made up of 20-30 year old males who work in or at the very least are heavily involved in technology.  You know... LAN parties, dope smoking, porn-viewing, college students... the same demographic that founded most Internet start-ups initially, the same demographic that is most heavily represented in crowd-sourced inventions and open source software development.

I'm an "old guy" by these standards, and those days are mostly behind me - but as someone involved in tech all my life, and as someone who now has enough money to 'play the long shot' on some incredibly risky investments like crypto currencies... it comes with the territory.

BlackCoin is barely past the point where 95/100 crypto coins fail completely and become worthless - and that's not even including the ones that were completely a scam from the very beginning!  If you want something with more transparency, maturity and a history of positive dividends... I recommend municipal bonds.  Everyone involved will be older, slower, and will only admit to their love of 'boobs' when their affair triggers a press conference before they resign from office.

But cryptos are what they are - something that very often falls apart, often leads to scams, often loses it's way... but occasionally produces 10,000% gains for the few that held on long enough and help push things forward.  But if you want coins only run by and created by 'mature businessmen' - then you need to stick with BTC, LTC, MINT, etc... and you need to accept the fact that while they might be more 'stable' - that doesn't make them more profitable.

I appreciate your concerns - but the "image" of the group is not the problem (transparency might be, but I'm willing to give them more than a fkin' week to deliver on that).  We can revisit the issue at that point in time.  Wink


Yeah well the great man that started it all ( btc) was certainly not some little gamer behind his pc smoking pot.

and He would certainly not have envisioned some spoiled brats to take over this whole thing..
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Its like anything else. We all want to know and see how are money (BC) is being spent, the old "who what where when and how" question. Sorta like we all want to know how our tax money is being spent? instead of wasted on useless causes.... I appreciate seeing so many willing and others being more then generous in here but it sure would help some, if there was some type of disclosure/ledger and business plan of how the funds will be allocated and by who... ok, just simple business mind Smiley
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Since I am not native English speaker I didn't want to be the one to create it, but there it is...

BlackCoin Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/BlackCoin

I've added basic overview and spend quite some time creating that infobox on the right (you have to use template or meta-template for that). Everyone honestly willing to help is welcomed.

Up to the moment we'll consider it finished it will reside in Articles For Creation - a protected section where it is not subject of review. Then we'll move it to the official section where it will undergo editor's review and control it meets Wikipedia standards.

Moreover I came across a few problems:
  • where are public domain BlackCoin images?
  • and info about their creator (so they can be publicly shared on Wikipedia)
  • where is ANY condensed info about the coin? (creators, scientific papers, specifications etc.)
  • where is the list of newspaper articles we can use as references

In case our wikipage would meet someone with the lack of the good will, there is a wiki source backup at Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/R1Wp4ss5

ZlyMartin / DrTentacle
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... it's not gonna happen on our watch.

It has already happened.

Well, then you can expect me and others to keep pointing out the problems with foundations, and your lack of transparcey to the point i"ll hurt my own investment, cause it's not what cryptos are about. You kids have NO right to be doing what your doing. I hope investors here understand this foundation is made up of mostly kids, with little to no real world experience in running a business.

Caught a break for a few... had to comment on this...

Have you ever seen the demographics for crypto currency adoption?!?!  It is almost exclusively made up of 20-30 year old males who work in or at the very least are heavily involved in technology.  You know... LAN parties, dope smoking, porn-viewing, college students... the same demographic that founded most Internet start-ups initially, the same demographic that is most heavily represented in crowd-sourced inventions and open source software development.

I'm an "old guy" by these standards, and those days are mostly behind me - but as someone involved in tech all my life, and as someone who now has enough money to 'play the long shot' on some incredibly risky investments like crypto currencies... it comes with the territory.

BlackCoin is barely past the point where 95/100 crypto coins fail completely and become worthless - and that's not even including the ones that were completely a scam from the very beginning!  If you want something with more transparency, maturity and a history of positive dividends... I recommend municipal bonds.  Everyone involved will be older, slower, and will only admit to their love of 'boobs' when their affair triggers a press conference before they resign from office.

But cryptos are what they are - something that very often falls apart, often leads to scams, often loses it's way... but occasionally produces 10,000% gains for the few that held on long enough and help push things forward.  But if you want coins only run by and created by 'mature businessmen' - then you need to stick with BTC, LTC, MINT, etc... and you need to accept the fact that while they might be more 'stable' - that doesn't make them more profitable.

I appreciate your concerns - but the "image" of the group is not the problem (transparency might be, but I'm willing to give them more than a fkin' week to deliver on that).  We can revisit the issue at that point in time.  Wink
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I really like the way discussion goes now - calm and respectful. Let's try to keep it that way.

And another 1000 BC is sent to IE WS project to keep my donations balanced between two main projects that's happening now  Wink
http://blkchain.info/tx/99fed372fd87861d8993a1d168acfe5806b174a28dc253ca70f60233df26c48d-000

TY for your support...
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This is a working draft of a press release intended to be distributed by the Blackcoin Community. It has already been edited based on some proofreading comments as well a new information that has become available, which may have introduced new proofreading error.

Blackcoin has two outstanding features.

Blackcoin is 6 times faster than Bitcoin and requires at least an order of magnitude less additional electricity to run. Its blazing speed makes it more suitable for brick and mortar merchant. Its cooperatively produced blockchain ledger pages make it the environmentally friendly alternative to the renewable energy gobbling Bitcoin.

Blackcoin has 1 minute block times with 10 confirmations recommended for certainty resulting in a 10 minute maximum waiting time for large transactions. In contrast, Bitcoin has 10 minute block times with 6 confirmations recommended resulting in a 1 hour waiting time. This makes Blackcoin 6 times faster than Bitcoin. As more brick and mortar merchants throughout the worlds develop confidence in crypto currencies, the fear of a massive worldwide crypto scams will hopefully fade and these technical details will become less relevant.

However, what is important to brick and mortar merchants as well as restaurants is the actual transaction time experienced in cryptospace. These are compared among the top ranking coins and reported graphically over time on bitinfocharts.com. The Blackcoin average rate has now dropped down to near the theoretical minimum of 30 seconds with a 1 minute block time target. Of course, the actual average block time does not necessarily track the design value. This also has to be actually be measured in practice. Based on these results, some will experience a transaction time around 1 second and others will be delayed 1 minute or more. The chance of experiencing any one time between 0 and 60 seconds should be equal for any one transaction. 

The electrical consumption required to maintain Bitcoin’s current security is gobbling up irreplaceable, renewable-energy resources in areas where they provide the less expensive options bar none. A recent study cited in the Wall Street Journal shows that the hash rate required for Bitcoin’s security last fall was one sixtieth (1 / 60) of what it is now. This hash rate inflation has been fueled by the tremendous profitability of large scale corporate mining operations and the mining technology explosion.

The largest known corporate Bitcoin mining operation is reported to be housed in a warehouse in Central Washington State where it can take advantage of the US’s lowest electricity rates bar none. The Spokane Review recently reported that a handful of additional competitors are about to pop up.

The New York Times reported on a similar setup in Iceland, which may have the least expensive electricity of any country in the world. It is powered by hydro and geothermal resources. This trend will continue as the Bitcoin mining technology improves at breakneck speed driven by the profitability resulting from the squandering of these irreplaceable resources. This will continue until the environmental community wakes up and learns about Blackcoin, the green coin, after it makes its Wall Street debut.  

These corporate mining operations compete against each other for the right to enter the next ledger page into the blockchain about every 10 minutes. The startups that produce the otherwise useless mining equipment are forced to make outrageous claims for their latest drawing board designs to get preorder payments to finance their production as has been well documented by CoinDesk in numerous articles. Are we about to repeat the environmental disasters that followed the 1849 California Gold Rush and the Spindletop oil gusher?

Blackcoin was formed by the marriage of Satoshi Nakamoto’s blockchain with Sunny King’s proven Proof of Stake (PoS) source code. This allows existing, multitasking computers like desktops and even laptop owned by Blackcoin stakeholders to cooperatively produce the next ledger page for its blockchain about every 1 minute. Thus, the additional amount of electricity required to maintain Blackcoin consists of what is required to run those computers that are online at any one time to maintain the blockchain when they would otherwise be off the grid.

Sunny King produced Peercoin as the first hybrid PoW/PoS coin in 2011. Bitcoin exclusively uses the PoW (Proof of Work) system, while Blackcoin has already finished its initial PoW phase. Since Peercoin was launched many exclusive PoS coins have successfully tested Sunny King’s source code.  

What these other PoS coins all lack is the killer application recently featured on CoinDesk that will facilitate the wider adoption of crypto currencies.by the less digitally informed. This invention puts everything needed onto a plug and play Black Card Wallet implemented on a USB stick. Plug it in and everything pops up on your screen, and off you go into cryptospace. It is the best advancement in cryptospace since the launch of Dogecoin.    

The Black Card Wallet will make its Wall Street debut in late May when 50 beautiful ladies will parade through the financial district giving out Black Card Wallets and a fact sheets.

More information on Blackcoin can be found on its official website, the Blackcoin Forum, and especially on its subreddit, where informed members of the our community will answer your written question
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I really like the way discussion goes now - calm and respectful. Let's try to keep it that way.

And another 1000 BC is sent to IE WS project to keep my donations balanced between two main projects that's happening now  Wink
http://blkchain.info/tx/99fed372fd87861d8993a1d168acfe5806b174a28dc253ca70f60233df26c48d-000
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New Blackcoin Lottery Twitter Bot will be released in a few days.

This will be a fully automated bot similar to @tipblk and @blackcoinmarket.

It's functionality, pool and prizes are all very similar to Lotto 6/49

Commands will be simple to use: Tweet " @blklottery buy ticket, jackpot, withdraw, balance etc...

I am hoping to keep most of this conversation on Reddit as it is easier for me to follow, and I am trying to get used to Reddit for the next bot build. So please visit my post there with any questions or suggestions.

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24tfj3/new_twitter_bot_that_automates_a_blackcoin/

I know it is not much in comparison to some of the other things going on, but I can build bots, and we all know how well a good lottery can do for "spreading the word". So I am going to keep building these bots until there are no more bot ideas to build, or the community gives me a better task Wink Until than, let me know what you think of this concept.


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/snip

We're not here to own BlackCoin. We're just a group of people who have a lot of BlackCoin. And because of that, we are trying to pool together to fund projects like the PR campaign, because together we have the funds and capability to do it. The community can still contribute - we need all the help we can get. Or they can even come up with ideas of their own. If you have one and you are really legitimate are about pursuing it but may need some financial help - post it!.

In time you will realize this is the way to go, because separate we are weak, but together we are strong. A lot of stuff that has happened for BC like CoinKite and the PR campaign now has happened because this group of investors have been able to develop trust between each other that each and every one of us is here for the long term and willing to help this coin. And then you still have big community funded projects like Wall Street on top of it! Me personally, I have no idea if I'd still be here today contributing as much as I am if this group had never formed.

I love the community, but you can't expect the community alone to be able to fund huge projects non-stop like this in crypto land where sitting back and taking a break can be very unforgiving (see MINT). But at the same time, you can't expect the investors to do literally everything. It has to be a mutual relationship. Help me help you, so that you can once again help me, so that I can again help you - a never ending positive feedback cycle in which you will eventually get back a lot more than you gave up. That is the goal of the BlackCoin investors. That is how we, together, everyone in this community, are going to take BlackCoin to the top.

With that said, I'll be donating to IE's WS project when I get home later today. Smiley
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Quote from: brammien
It's not there age it's there lack of experience. Not all are bad, and many do try to help, but the maturity level in IRC is very young, that is without a doubt. If you don't believe me people, go see for yourself how who the foundation is talking with. They bots that show boobs, if that is any indication of the maturity level there.

But you have no idea what experience they have, or do not have. You are just pulling statements out of thin air.

And who doesn't like !boobs?
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Dear BlackCoin Community,

I'm blown away by the potential of the upcoming 90 day PR campaign. Our lovely coin will be catapulted onto the world stage and I firmly believe this will be immensely beneficial to BC. So over the weekend I thought, "what can I do to help BlackCoin?" in addition to my donations to all projects already?

Well. I've decided to put all my efforts into assisting with the PR campaign by making FURTHER donations to the cause equal to those raised by the community up to a value of $5,000.

I promise to match EVERY donation from now onwards for 24 hours up to a total of $5,000. You can pay in any of the official denominations. For accounting purposes I need you to list your donation transaction ID on reddit, I will then match it 100%. I will be promoting my fund raiser on Reddit, Twitter and BitCoinTalk.

Official donation addresses:

BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q    
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV    
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR  
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1
Paypal: http://www.blackcoin.co/donate/

Tell me about your donation HERE on Reddit, and I will match it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24si9s/i_will_match_your_pr_donations_to_5000_for_24/

So, please help me reach my target, together we can add $10,000 to the fund raised. If you have already donated (like me) then consider donating AGAIN as I'm going double it for you! Let's get BlackCoin to $1 sooner rather than later!!

Let's get this PR campaign underway and prove what an AWESOME COMMUNITY we are!

You can find more about the PR campaign here: http://www.blackcoin.co/general/the-next-step-for-blackcoin-hiring-an-pr-agency/

Thank you for donations so far guys!

Digicidal 500 BC donation MATCHED!
svojoe 1.1 BTC donation MATCHED!
UdjinM6 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!
noerc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!
SunnyIgor 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!
ener_bc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!!

Come on guys - make me PAY UP MORE!!!

Let's take BlackCoin to the TOP! First coin with Professional Marketing - 90 day campaign!
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Smaller donations are welcome! If I awoke to 50 x 200 BC donations tomorrow I'd be over the moon! Come on guys, let's make this happen!
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Maybe the boobs are mature ones. You are being so judgmental, and it's one of the worst things.  Cheesy
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RUNNING A FEW NUMBERS...

This proposed -or real- "Foundation", for what we all know by now, will be comprised of 15-20 individuals "that were here more or less from the beginning" and that are all well know to the community... well, since the whole thing exists only for just over two months, how "well known" can they be?

But since the ra-ra mentality is obviously much more active here than the simplest exercise of critical thinking, let's try some numbers so no one can claim "oh I didn't understand the potential ramifications and dangers. It is already established that the proposed -or real- "Foundation" is, in reality, a "Group of Investors" in which Rat4 and The DOGE take part. There's no other purpose, NONE, that supersedes the main if not only purpose of a "group of investors". By simple and pure definition: To make profits, i.e.:Money. Pure and simple. No ifs, no buts.

With that in mind, I believe it is safe to assume that of those 15-20 investors now in the proposed "Foundation", we will find that they hold most if not all of the top 20 BlackCoin Wallets. And maybe quite a few spares. That's by themselves, not even counting family members, friends or associates already converted to the BC "faith". Remember, the MAIN interest of such group, by definition, is to obtain profits, ok? Now, place yourselves in a position in which you personally or a group of "yous", own double or triple the amount of BC that is traded daily in the exchanges. And just limit the vision, for concentration and clarity purposes, to the two main exchanges, MintPal and Cryptsys. I'm sure you can easily see the unlimited possibilities... on arbitrage alone... which means simply selling in one place and buying in the other while actually maintaining the same amount of BC at the end of the day. Even at $0.12 a piece, the current price, you can easily imagine that such activity, even at much lower levels, would produce dreamlike kind of profits with practically no risks whatsoever. Will the Investors Group in the "Foundation" do this? Of course not, will they? Can they do it, exceptionally or on a regular basis? YOU answer that question. There's a reason why such a thing would mean jail time -extensive- if it were to happen in the real world.

But since we are all being so proactive, so well mannered and putting extensive amount of ribbons to everything that we post not to hurt too many sensitivities, one would actually believe one has entered the Twilight Zone. Now we have this "generous" guy, Colin, that offers to match up to $5k whatever donations, as it this were some kind of telethon. It is already a freaking circus with a bunch of people vying for who comes with the most outrageous idea of what to do so they can sell at 37 and buy back at 30 and brag about it. It is greedy beyond words, pathetic to extreme that such amount of real resources, which could save hundreds of children's lives, quite literally, would be used in this dick-measuring context for the ONLY purpose of getting a coin to trade at 37 instead of at 30. There's no generosity in that. There could be a bunch of other adjectives, none even remotely being "generous"... and and I can see the question in the ever attacking "defense" coming... the answer is "not enough", ok? So you can save yourself the inevitable question.

Can the "Investment Group" exist and be called "Foundation" or any other name? Well, in fact it does already exist, obviously. Organized and ready for action as we saw in the campaign against IC over the weekend. The Land Grab had already taken place, just covertly. Now it is kind of official. You guys, the "community" can do whatever you want but we are BlackCoin and no one but us will ever have control over it. We are the devs and now we are also The Foundation. Marking territory. Besides, we have the coins. We can do anything we want. In fact, let's move the "discussion" to forums we absolutely control and where absolutely no dissenting words are ever allowed to be posted.

Well, there are no positives in that. No matter how you pretend to disguise it. Like I warned before, it will prove sooner, rather than later, BlackCoin's undoing. A pity because I love the gorgeous logo. But calls for reason, sadly, are an exercise in futility. Hopefully not too many people will be severely hurt by the inevitable.

Now back to your previous ra-ra's.




I know you are an intelligent individual, and I am being sincere. After going back and reading what you have written lately, including this current post, I now realize you are more intelligent than I previously gave you credit for. However, your message gets ignored because of your "hateful" tone. I can guarantee if you change your tone and dial it back a bit more people would listen to your point of view.
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Quote from: brammien
Don't worry those investing in Blackcoin, there are many adults here, that don't hang with the foundation kids on IRC, that have staged a coup last week, but seem to be blaming those voices of reason as spreader of FUD and not united. We are united, and even the kids can play with the adults here, if they play nicely.

Might be time to have an unofficial social media voice for twitter page and facebook. We are not going to let this foundation, group of bagholding kids run this innovative coin, that has so much potential. Keep expecting hard question til you guys feel like abandoning your undemocratic takeover of this coin, it's not gonna happen on our watch.

Disregarding someone else because of their age is just the height of ignorance and condescension.  

Your statements are filled with assumption and venom, which is wrong. Keep calling people kids, keep making up random lies, it just motivates people to work harder.

Thanks Smiley
  

It's not there age it's there lack of experience. Not all are bad, and many do try to help, but the maturity level in IRC is very young, that is without a doubt. If you don't believe me people, go see for yourself how who the foundation is talking with. They bots that show boobs, if that is any indication of the maturity level there.
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Quote from: brammien
Don't worry those investing in Blackcoin, there are many adults here, that don't hang with the foundation kids on IRC, that have staged a coup last week, but seem to be blaming those voices of reason as spreader of FUD and not united. We are united, and even the kids can play with the adults here, if they play nicely.

Might be time to have an unofficial social media voice for twitter page and facebook. We are not going to let this foundation, group of bagholding kids run this innovative coin, that has so much potential. Keep expecting hard question til you guys feel like abandoning your undemocratic takeover of this coin, it's not gonna happen on our watch.

Disregarding someone else because of their age is just the height of ignorance and condescension.  

Your statements are filled with assumption and venom, which is wrong. Keep calling people kids, keep making up random lies, it just motivates people to work harder.

Thanks Smiley
  
legendary
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In regards to a PR firm being enlisted (Marketing):

http://www.coindesk.com/employment-networking-opportunities-abound-at-bitcoin-job-fair/

Seems the big players think so too  Wink

So why not with BC?
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could someone supply me with a link to the IRC that is active? I have an idea id like to discuss for BC Smiley

#blackcoinpool is busiest i think
#blackcoin not so busy

appriciate it!
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