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Interesting price hovering between 2000 to 2400 sat for days
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I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...

If you have some specific ideas or suggestions you could go over to the gitter: https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub

Janko33bd and Vinceblk are both almost always available there.

This bitcointalk thread is fairly ignored.

I went there and it's very active, but I'm not a member and don't feel like joining yet another online doodad that I'm going to forget my password for, but I do have a suggestion that can be passed along if somebody thinks it's worth it.  Any bounty for my brilliant scheme would be appreciated...  Cheesy

A long time ago there was an internet service provider called Juno, and you could get free internet if you allowed them to use your dormant, online computer to perform complex mathematical computations, and Juno would find buyers that needed this service, presumably make money, and for letting them use your computer you got free internet.  The cumulative power of thousands of computers hooked together made a sort of supercomputer, according to Juno.  I've long thought that a proof-of-stake wallet could provide this same kind of functionality and reward the wallet holder with a higher stake payout.  I have absolutely no technical ability to make this happen, but always thought it would be a great option for crypto coins.


Just so you know, gitter uses github and twitter accounts, don't have to sign up for anything if you have either of those.

I didn't see that.  Thanks for the tip.
legendary
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***  ALERT * WATCHONLY-GUI BUG * ALERT ***
____________________________________________

Greetings, friends at BlackCoin! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug.

BlackCoin (BLK) - As a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible to this bug.

ISSUE: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal.  You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet:

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

I've been tasked with spreading awareness and facilitating discussion of this bug, so please let me know if you have any questions. I'll get you some answers and we can minimize the impact. We wanted to reach out directly to the developers of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own GUI wallet).

- Jay

Hey there Jay. BlackHalo uses the watchonly addresses however the wallet is only used to get access to listunspent. The keys are just stored in two private key files since all accounts are multisig. In some cases watchonly is used to watch addresses for joint accounts or accounts that don't belong to the user.

Rat4 used to have two branches. The main branch and the watchonly branch because he didn't want the wallets to get confused. In fact, I use a custom data directory which is local to Halo to avoid that conflict and make files more accessible to users.

As for the QT anyone who builds the watchonly branch and manually adds watchonly addresses is indeed at a big risk since those accounts aren't meant to be spent. However the change you propose is not good because I use that branch for Halo. On the other hand users should build from the branch without watchonly.

If your DEX requires the QT wallet runs watchonly then perhaps a change needs to be made to the QT GUI to accommodate it.
newbie
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_________________________________________________

***  ALERT * WATCHONLY-GUI BUG * ALERT ***
____________________________________________

Greetings, friends at BlackCoin! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug.

BlackCoin (BLK) - As a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible to this bug.

ISSUE: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal.  You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

I've been tasked with spreading awareness and facilitating discussion of this bug, so please let me know if you have any questions. I'll get you some answers and we can minimize the impact. We wanted to reach out directly to the developers of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own GUI wallet).

- Jay
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No one like you
I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...

If you have some specific ideas or suggestions you could go over to the gitter: https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub

Janko33bd and Vinceblk are both almost always available there.

This bitcointalk thread is fairly ignored.

I went there and it's very active, but I'm not a member and don't feel like joining yet another online doodad that I'm going to forget my password for, but I do have a suggestion that can be passed along if somebody thinks it's worth it.  Any bounty for my brilliant scheme would be appreciated...  Cheesy

A long time ago there was an internet service provider called Juno, and you could get free internet if you allowed them to use your dormant, online computer to perform complex mathematical computations, and Juno would find buyers that needed this service, presumably make money, and for letting them use your computer you got free internet.  The cumulative power of thousands of computers hooked together made a sort of supercomputer, according to Juno.  I've long thought that a proof-of-stake wallet could provide this same kind of functionality and reward the wallet holder with a higher stake payout.  I have absolutely no technical ability to make this happen, but always thought it would be a great option for crypto coins.


Just so you know, gitter uses github and twitter accounts, don't have to sign up for anything if you have either of those.
gitter is good!
newbie
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Merit: 0
I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...

If you have some specific ideas or suggestions you could go over to the gitter: https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub

Janko33bd and Vinceblk are both almost always available there.

This bitcointalk thread is fairly ignored.

I went there and it's very active, but I'm not a member and don't feel like joining yet another online doodad that I'm going to forget my password for, but I do have a suggestion that can be passed along if somebody thinks it's worth it.  Any bounty for my brilliant scheme would be appreciated...  Cheesy

A long time ago there was an internet service provider called Juno, and you could get free internet if you allowed them to use your dormant, online computer to perform complex mathematical computations, and Juno would find buyers that needed this service, presumably make money, and for letting them use your computer you got free internet.  The cumulative power of thousands of computers hooked together made a sort of supercomputer, according to Juno.  I've long thought that a proof-of-stake wallet could provide this same kind of functionality and reward the wallet holder with a higher stake payout.  I have absolutely no technical ability to make this happen, but always thought it would be a great option for crypto coins.


Just so you know, gitter uses github and twitter accounts, don't have to sign up for anything if you have either of those.
full member
Activity: 223
Merit: 100
I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...

If you have some specific ideas or suggestions you could go over to the gitter: https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub

Janko33bd and Vinceblk are both almost always available there.

This bitcointalk thread is fairly ignored.

I went there and it's very active, but I'm not a member and don't feel like joining yet another online doodad that I'm going to forget my password for, but I do have a suggestion that can be passed along if somebody thinks it's worth it.  Any bounty for my brilliant scheme would be appreciated...  Cheesy

A long time ago there was an internet service provider called Juno, and you could get free internet if you allowed them to use your dormant, online computer to perform complex mathematical computations, and Juno would find buyers that needed this service, presumably make money, and for letting them use your computer you got free internet.  The cumulative power of thousands of computers hooked together made a sort of supercomputer, according to Juno.  I've long thought that a proof-of-stake wallet could provide this same kind of functionality and reward the wallet holder with a higher stake payout.  I have absolutely no technical ability to make this happen, but always thought it would be a great option for crypto coins.
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BLK is a great coin with huge potential and many supporters. Developers have been doing a great job for many years. Worth of big respect. But. The coin finally needs a good marketing. Just not to drown in the flow of shitcoins.
newbie
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I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...

If you have some specific ideas or suggestions you could go over to the gitter: https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub

Janko33bd and Vinceblk are both almost always available there.

This bitcointalk thread is fairly ignored.
full member
Activity: 223
Merit: 100
I sure would like to see some new development with this coin.  I had high hopes for it when it came out, followed it for a while, got away from it, checked back in, and it looks the same as it ever was...
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this coin got stuck in time.
Bad to see that.
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Is really dead of  PoS king blackcoin ? Huh

Join gitter blackcoin to see just how alive coin is....dont believe the fud
newbie
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Is really dead of  PoS king blackcoin ? Huh
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None of the POS coins are holding their value anymore. Multiplying coins and not creating revenue only dilutes the coin price.

Its time to switch to revenue based tokens like Pinnacle Tokens(PINN), https://pinnacletoken1.wixsite.com/thepinnaclegroup


Trading on EtherDelta. https://etherdelta.com/#0x1df6eadc2e1e9f4cbb2d94369210d8f1b790ee19-ETH

Don't fall for scams like this :

1/  A free untraceable WIX site ... really ?!?!
2/  Not a single name of anyone is on this site .... why hide ?
3/  Consulting ... what are their credentials, previous experience, previous projects, financial education Huh
4/  Who is "The Pinnacle Group" connected to : thepinnaclegroup.com  or  thepinnaclegroup.ca  or  thepinnaclegroup.net

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i think this coin dont will raise more 0.5$ becaz start is in 2014
hero member
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Crypto enthusiast for years.
Soon, or later this coin will go much higher as is now. Development is going on for years, realy like POS idea and get this way profit for investors.
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It's nice to see you pop up on this thread again dzimbeck.  I've seen several people asking about Blackhalo and Night trader recently, glad to hear your still working on it!!  Cheesy

Thanks yeah I don't show up as much mainly because I'm extremely busy but this is still my full time job. The software is extremely stable as are the decentralized markets.

NightTrader needed to have a javascript design instead of python and use atomic trading. So that is already sketched out however I'm waiting until the completion of the final templates in Halo which will be another few months and BitBays peg to reassess the project. Hopefully by that time I can finance it myself. It wouldn't be built on Blackcoin though because atomic trade is blockchain agnostic. We could give Blackcoin special incentives although I've gotta think about it. Perhaps lower voluntary trading fees.

Sounds great,  the community and I appreciates all the hard work you have done in BLK. I hope the best in all your ventures buddy and I'm glad to hear you are able to self finance your work soon especially with all the contributions you have done here and with other coins.
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