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legendary
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As promised, heres the commercial I said I was going to make. Grin
...let me know what you guys think
Pass this around to investors and miners!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4k8q-4Xddk&feature=youtu.be


I like it, but some digital voice would be nice.  Smiley

Your screen with BC details goes too quickly to read it all. Not 100% sure I want this to be marketed as the coin that eats others... :/

Whitecoin will also be PoS soon. They will also be eating coins.

Wait, did you just say whitecoin? Dammit why did i respond to u? Whitecoin is a total ripoff copycat. Its like kittehcoin.
hero member
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Soepkip, what's up with the profitability these days? According to Webbson's poolpicker.eu we're the worst multipool three days in a row!  Huh Shocked
legendary
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As promised, heres the commercial I said I was going to make. Grin
...let me know what you guys think
Pass this around to investors and miners!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4k8q-4Xddk&feature=youtu.be


I like it, but some digital voice would be nice.  Smiley

Your screen with BC details goes too quickly to read it all. Not 100% sure I want this to be marketed as the coin that eats others... :/

Thanks for the feedback. Its my 1st draft. I can hire a voice-over person I have a bunch...but what kind? Guy with deep voice? Girl? What would they say? Maybe "less is more". Does he just say "BLACKCOIN". The coin that eats others  is just a "hook" to get people interested... its marketing 101. Of course its not the mission. Although the idea of eating bbqcoin is nice. mmmm proof of steak. I will slow the text down. Really wanted to get it in under 30 seconds but I guess 45 is just as good. Will wait for more comments for the second draft.
polling the cryptoland for suggestions!
full member
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Community "Pump"

Good morning everyone! I apologize for not responding, I finally got some sleep! I had a chance to catch up and I would like to point out a few things.

1. I am honored and humbled that I have gained the trust of this community. That being said one person being in charge of that much BTC is not a good idea for many reasons.
a) That person will immediately be targeted because it is publicly known how much BTC he/she is in control of.
b) Keeping track of who sent funds and then redistributing the funds will be a nightmare.
c) Lets address the elephant in the room, theft. That is a lot of BTC for one person to control and some people will not feel comfortable having me or even the pool in charge of that much BTC.

2. I do not think we need to have one entity in charge. I think if we all trade on the same platform and work in unison, it will have the same outcome as one person trading for everyone.

3. For this to work we would all have to make a pledge as ladies and gentlemen and stick to our pledge.
a) Everyone involved agrees to buy at the current market price, not wait for a dip
b) You cannot sell what you bought for at least 3 days

3. This can work in the short term but I honestly do not know what the after effect will be because a community has never collectively pumped a coin before.

I just want to add for quite sometime I have publicly expressed my concerns that one or more people are suppressing the price of BlackCoin. I have taken heat in public and behind the scenes because of my comments, but I stand firmly behind my comments. Now I am being contacted privately by people who also believe the price is being purposely suppressed and they are frustrated as well. I noticed this suppression around 10,000 sat and as soon as we were able to break the 10,000 wall BC exploded in price. Whomever was suppressingn BC seemed to have lost their grip after 10,000 sat, but then we had a massive sell off around 80k sat. I do not believe the sell off was orchestrated, I believe a bunch of people who never seen that much money before started to cash out quickly. However, I think when we went back to around 14000 sat, this person or persons were able to regain control and has been back to suppressing BC.

A Massive buy will break through the suppression but also give this community something to rally behind. We will also make history once again since this has never been publicly done before in crypto. The news of us doing this will make others not interested in BC to join in because they know the price will be going up.

Around 8AM EST this morning I will announce the date and time we will do this.
hero member
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As promised, heres the commercial I said I was going to make. Grin
...let me know what you guys think
Pass this around to investors and miners!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4k8q-4Xddk&feature=youtu.be


I like it, but some digital voice would be nice.  Smiley

Your screen with BC details goes too quickly to read it all. Not 100% sure I want this to be marketed as the coin that eats others... :/

Whitecoin will also be PoS soon. They will also be eating coins.
legendary
Activity: 2412
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As promised, heres the commercial I said I was going to make. Grin
...let me know what you guys think
Pass this around to investors and miners!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4k8q-4Xddk&feature=youtu.be
newbie
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I think that the asic giveaway by the multi pool is an excellent idea, if only for the short term. It seems to be driving a few miners at least to the pool which might bump the price a bit.
full member
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Minimum volume at the moment. Lets take a breath today....
hero member
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I'm definitely still trying to decide about this all too, but I think manipulation has been way too easy, and if implemented correctly, it would also, on the flip side, be easy to stop, at least for a bit, while at the same time, continuing to distribute coins in more hands. The simple threat of having an equal match for a whale trying to bring prices down so dramatically could at least make them pause to decide if it's worth losing coins for.

I think the devs creating Black Shield gave the whole concept more credibility in my mind, and in a way, does add value to the coin (I can see it: Black Shield and Black Harpoon and whatever else comes, helping, even a little, in protecting your altcoin investment from some market manipulation). I know it's a part of every market, but I figure it's an innovative thought and new for a coin, which is right up BlackCoin's alley anyhow...maybe change the game a bit? Smiley

You have a warriors attitude about this. I rarely see communities with members this committed to making their product a financial success.

If we all do everything we can do to keep adding value to Blackcoin then it's only a matter of time before we receive value from what we've given. Give to receive.

newbie
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So used to Blackcoins transaction time now!

Bitcoins so slow  Wink
hero member
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The coolest thing about this system, and that for example:

Realise that has a sale wall 45000@50BTC if we take a good bite, about 10-15 BTC, the wall will disappear like magic, and if the sell wall keeps steady, the buyers will eat it until we see the bones whale. People need to lose their fear of buying into walls! If we do something like that we do not need spend all our ammunition in a single wall, we will give good bites and if the wall is false it will be removed.

Nothing there. All I see is 17 Sell Wall @ 42999

It's an example Tongue

Perhaps the multipool should allow donations to both 'blackshield' and 'harpoon' funds.

Agreed... if the multipool has a % go to the superbuy it can catch whales by surprise so when they try to sell it would have to be multiple people cashing out instead of just a couple. But I should warn the community that you need at least 300 btc to pull this off. People are saying less and thats just not the case.

How do you know the pools aren't the ones dumping? Where are the whales spawning from?
hero member
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Well Allison, the FB group simply won't work, as a matter of fact the opposite would be true since, obviously, anyone interested in "whaling" will be part of the group and therefore fully aware of the group's information. Likewise , Black Shield, etc. That IS one of the points of my post above: These initiatives would hardly benefit the small guy and would greatly benefit the... you guessed it, WHALES! The Whales being, mind you, most of the top 500 holders of the coin.

Are you going to organize to manipulate the market to benefit mostly those whose only interest (or main, as it might be) is to dump their BCs?

It is endearing to see how bent you are on this initiative. I am sure the "whales" are rejoicing...

It has never occurred to you to think that the "whales" you are targeting, those intent on playing games to get the price to drop to be able to load up and bottom and repeat, are just speculators trying to game the market -which they will always do anyway- while the REAL WHALES here are, as I have posted three times already, those on the top 100 to whom you, the defense, the shield, the dragon, whatever... would actually be HELPING to get out at higher prices, therefore giving incentive they do so?

If you believe in BC, hold your coins, buy more on the dips but, by all means, don't contribute to allow the top holders to get out ay better prices they would otherwise do

typical viewpoint of a crypto leech. counting how much money others are making. sounds like someone's upset they didnt buy in at 500 satoshi. i bet you wouldnt be on this thread complaining if you had. ud be singing the "this is such a great coin" song. you wish you could be that whale so u could dump on the market and strut off. well guess what.. too bad!

here we have a product that we are sure is a strong competitor against bitcoin. this is a POS coin which is all mined out. so it's basically a pure stock item. the point is, if u understand how trading and investment really works you will understand why it is necessary for us to buy out the whales. why because we believe we can market this coin to much higher prices as new services and developments are made public.

it's called uptrading. the more bagholders up to one price sets the price at that price as no competitor will be willing to sell below that price.. as long as there is competition to sell at lower prices and people buying high and selling low, the cycle must repeat until enough bagholders are accumulated at that level, not willing to sell before some much higher price mark. your problem is you think that when ur bagholding u got scammed. but what it means is that you're an investor who believes this coin has what it takes to go much higher.. even if it takes a while. i personally believe, that even us who are buying today even if we arent the whales today.. will seem like whales at a later day when this coin has much more value. when all u can get is .001 per mh/24hrs
hero member
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Well Allison, the FB group simply won't work, as a matter of fact the opposite would be true since, obviously, anyone interested in "whaling" will be part of the group and therefore fully aware of the group's information. Likewise , Black Shield, etc. That IS one of the points of my post above: These initiatives would hardly benefit the small guy and would greatly benefit the... you guessed it, WHALES! The Whales being, mind you, most of the top 500 holders of the coin.

Are you going to organize to manipulate the market to benefit mostly those whose only interest (or main, as it might be) is to dump their BCs?

It is endearing to see how bent you are on this initiative. I am sure the "whales" are rejoicing...

It has never occurred to you to think that the "whales" you are targeting, those intent on playing games to get the price to drop to be able to load up and bottom and repeat, are just speculators trying to game the market -which they will always do anyway- while the REAL WHALES here are, as I have posted three times already, those on the top 100 to whom you, the defense, the shield, the dragon, whatever... would actually be HELPING to get out at higher prices, therefore giving incentive they do so?

If you believe in BC, hold your coins, buy more on the dips but, by all means, don't contribute to allow the top holders to get out ay better prices they would otherwise do
Quoting this because this is unfortunately the absolute truth.
Any attempt to manipulate markets (with meagre force) will only benefit the guys wanting to sell. You are creating the large bids for them to unload.

Focus your efforts on promoting the coin which will create natural demand rather than artificially inflating prices which will only benefit the whales.
legendary
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Well Allison, the FB group simply won't work, as a matter of fact the opposite would be true since, obviously, anyone interested in "whaling" will be part of the group and therefore fully aware of the group's information. Likewise , Black Shield, etc. That IS one of the points of my post above: These initiatives would hardly benefit the small guy and would greatly benefit the... you guessed it, WHALES! The Whales being, mind you, most of the top 500 holders of the coin.

Are you going to organize to manipulate the market to benefit mostly those whose only interest (or main, as it might be) is to dump their BCs?

It is endearing to see how bent you are on this initiative. I am sure the "whales" are rejoicing...

It has never occurred to you to think that the "whales" you are targeting, those intent on playing games to get the price to drop to be able to load up and bottom and repeat, are just speculators trying to game the market -which they will always do anyway- while the REAL WHALES here are, as I have posted three times already, those on the top 100 to whom you, the defense, the shield, the dragon, whatever... would actually be HELPING to get out at higher prices, therefore giving incentive they do so?

If you believe in BC, hold your coins, buy more on the dips but, by all means, don't contribute to allow the top holders to get out ay better prices they would otherwise do
hero member
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TBH I've always been a little on the fence about these ideas. I just don't think it's really necessary. All markets are going to be manipulated sometimes, it's just reality. But only so much can be done.. if we're constantly adding value to Blackcoin it will tend to constantly rise, simple as that.

Same here. I like the growth on news about services accepting Blackcoin and services around Blackcoin. Other than that it's just another market speculation from the other (buy) side. If you want Blackcoin than just buy it and hold (or spend buying goods and services). But if you start playing on their rules - you'll lose.

And to everyone who is speculating about "They got it low and now they just trying to cashout" - as for me I have some Blackcoins since 2000s staking as much as I can and donated some to devs, Iconic and CoinKite campaign but never sold a single one. Yes, of course some will take their profit and move on but I think Blackcoin is capable of even more.

Just my 2BC. (or BLK if you wish Wink)


I agree with KingSchultz. Instead of a normal price with whale manipulation, we'll have a lower price that's balanced by black shield and whale manipulation?

We had a crash from 94K to 14K - Natural crash.
54K to 27K - Also Natural crash.

If 27K is our next floor, we're doing pretty damn good. We don't know. Some whales might have failed miserably and lost tons of money.
legendary
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TBH I've always been a little on the fence about these ideas. I just don't think it's really necessary. All markets are going to be manipulated sometimes, it's just reality. But only so much can be done.. if we're constantly adding value to Blackcoin it will tend to constantly rise, simple as that.

Same here. I like the growth on news about services accepting Blackcoin and services around Blackcoin. Other than that it's just another market speculation from the other (buy) side. If you want Blackcoin than just buy it and hold (or spend buying goods and services). But if you start playing on their rules - you'll lose.

And to everyone who is speculating about "They got it low and now they just trying to cashout" - as for me I have some Blackcoins since 2000s staking as much as I can and donated some to devs, Iconic and CoinKite campaign but never sold a single one. Yes, of course some will take their profit and move on but I think Blackcoin is capable of even more.

Just my 2BC. (or BLK if you wish Wink)
sr. member
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★Trash&Burn [TBC/TXB]★
Ok, just to get this all clarified because the thread moves so fast...here are the ideas about how to get a group buy started alongside Black Shield. Please quote and add/change if I forgot anything or missed your post noting interest.

People possibly interested just from this discussion...please add to or take away names if I got it wrong...we would promote more if it becomes implemented:

Iconic
alison03
coinpredator(return)
dzimbeck
GTX77
brammien
svojoe
dyland
hamzatu
oblox
futile-resistence
nouseforacoin


If a Google Doc or website track was started/created so a super buy was its own entity, we'd have to:

1. figure out WHO the trustworthy soul would be to implement the btc on sell walls that come up. Maybe Iconic or a dev if they have time? Is there some sort of escrow for people who are worried about security?

2. determine if the doc should be public or viewable by only those participating/sending btc for clairvoyance. Have it locked and with a space for transaction id's as confirmation.

3. decide what sort of increments, if any, should be sent to the pool. I think it would be easiest if all the amounts, at the very least, were the same so bc payouts are simpler.

3a. then decide if payouts are all at once when all the btc have been used, or in increments as walls have been bought

For this, would a "private" invite-only facebook group be of interest to discuss more privately, so whales would be more caught off guard? It doesn't make much sense in posting/discussing it here so they know when it's coming, but that means everyone would have to trust the one person in charge with what walls to buy. A private facebook group (invite only) would allow a bit more discussion and if you set alerts, you can get notified on your cell of new discussions (say a big wall popped up...check the group, have a chat, and decide if we take it down). Just a thought.


Some other thoughts from prior posts (essentially I just copied and pasted to get it in one post):

-allowing the multipool to give donations to Black Shield and Black Harpoon funds

-allowing it to be adjustable so if funds in one are dwindling more can be pointed towards it (maybe have a meter on the site to help 'monitor' its growth and show its usage)

-giving miners 4 options:
     1) Pay-out the same day (as is now)
     2) Invest in the Blackshield
     3) Buy Whale-shares -> huge buy walls that actually eat up large sell orders and distribute BC among the miners.
     4) Accumulate and buy at once, once a week.

-opening another port on blackcoin pool for the purpose of building the btc wall (kind of longterm investment)...

-if/when the wall gets dumped into someone (experienced) sells back into the run ups increasing our btc wall fund - stable price... rinse n repeat
newbie
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Is there an Android wallet for Blackcoin yet?
someone is working on it:
http://blackcointalk.com/index.php/topic,1268.30.html
You can donate to BQynghdBFW6RCcMXMgR2ys3yEkiVL77HK6 to support him
sr. member
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★Trash&Burn [TBC/TXB]★
I'm definitely still trying to decide about this all too, but I think manipulation has been way too easy, and if implemented correctly, it would also, on the flip side, be easy to stop, at least for a bit, while at the same time, continuing to distribute coins in more hands. The simple threat of having an equal match for a whale trying to bring prices down so dramatically could at least make them pause to decide if it's worth losing coins for.

I think the devs creating Black Shield gave the whole concept more credibility in my mind, and in a way, does add value to the coin (I can see it: Black Shield and Black Harpoon and whatever else comes, helping, even a little, in protecting your altcoin investment from some market manipulation). I know it's a part of every market, but I figure it's an innovative thought and new for a coin, which is right up BlackCoin's alley anyhow...maybe change the game a bit? Smiley
newbie
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Is there an Android wallet for Blackcoin yet?
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