Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 146. (Read 92456 times)

Here I simplify it for you:
I have 0.4 in address A, 0.4 in address B, 0.45 in address C and trying to sell 1.2 to address D which some body gave it to me to send 1.2 to him and is waiting for me to send him 1.2BTC.
When I'm using Bitmixer I could send 3 transactions and the extra 0.05 I consider as fees, so I send Bitmixer 1.25 and they will send 1.2 to the address D.

I feel like posting more self-referential and somewhat ironic things about signature campaigns would be spam from me... so this is my last response.

You're not in business.  Bitmixer is a business and you are not affiliated to them.  Furthermore, the main aim of a business like Bitmixer is to appeal to the consumer - by openly insulting other groups using arguments with no actual merit, they would lose credibility, and thus profit.  It's a good thing that you don't work for them.
You're right, you didn't.  And Lauda is the person who moderates your posts, not Bitmixer, which was my point.  Thanks for confirming that, mate.

It would say that you don't go shitting on threads for no actual reason.  Capitalism promotes selfishness, but you're not even being selfish in a scenario where it's necessary.  I feel like you're the type that would start loads of threads yelling "I told you so" if these guys scammed everyone, and go eerily silent if Bitmixer did.

This paragraph, on an objective grammatical level, makes no sense.  I'm genuinely confused, you could clear that up for me and we could get back to real discussions about the mixer.

Like, "And my point is to know how can I send several transactions to chipmixer and some body else some where else on the planet which already has given an address to me and is waiting for a specific amount to that address?"  You're descending into gibberish.

In business you don't go cuddle and give a BJ to the competition, you go for the weak points and crush them out of their jobs.
Survival of the fittest bitches, if you are not ready for such an environment then you'll get crushed and killed. bitches right? lol

No they are in love with me and my posts are bringing them millions of dollars.
I never said anything about Lauda, and "Lauda" doesn't care what I post as long as they are somehow constructive and not off topic.


Actually besides the signature being seen being a point for a signature campaign, advertising and promoting a service when you have the chance to do so is another point of campaigns.
They don't care, but I do care, it might not be worth my time to get involved like now, what does that say about me if I didn't react when there was a perfect opportunity to kill the competition? and not without a good reason though.

And my point is to know how can I send several transactions to chipmixer and some body else some where else on the planet which already has given an address to me and is waiting for a specific amount to that address?
When I made a deal to send for example 1.75BTC to him and I don't want to pay the fees twice and want to send him a transaction with one output being 1.75BTC while chipmixer has no idea how I might want my output to be to prepare it for me, I might want a random amount every time so should I call first to make an appointment? lol or conveniently use a mixer such as Bitmixer?

You're not really working for Bitmixer though.  Your signature campaign manager is Lauda, and Lauda is independent from Bitmixer.  Lauda should be the only person checking through your posts, and no one should care whether or not you're promoting Bitmixer. 

Regardless, the point of a campaign isn't to be an arse to everyone, nor to promote the service in your signature directly.  If everyone did that, there would be plenty more gambling addicts on here...
Once again, Bitmixer do not care if you specifically are getting paid, unless they think that the campaign is rampant with spammers.

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The point is to prevent blockchain analysis by removing all ties to anyone except the mixer.  You receive a wallet directly from the mixer instead of a payment from it, so it changes the mixing process.

I can't see a lot of Bitcoin mixing service users scrambling to give their identity to the authorities...

Wow! That's awesome and I guess the donation amount is small too for the services since users don't have to worry about the KYC thing. I suggest you guys to have a thread in Chinese and other language which their government implement KYC.

Are you aware of the concept of "onchain transactions"?

You don't have to keep your coins in the wallet they give you afterwards.  That would be stupid.  Any mixer could steal your funds when you give them to the mixer, but there's no higher risk involved in receiving a wallet to receiving a transaction.

Keeping bitcoins on ChipMixer is like keeping bitcoins on exchange. If you trust exchange, you can do that, but it is not an intended cold storage solution.
While some exchanges may be more trusted by the community (they are older, backed by public companies), it doesn't protect them from stealing their users coins (MtGox, Bitfinex), losing wallet (MtGox) or suspending your withdrawals till you KYC.
When ChipMixer gives you your private key, you can spend it any time you want. ChipMixer cannot steal from you without you knowing. ChipMixer cannot run fractional reserves by giving same private key to multiple users without risking that one of them spends it, ruining mixer's reputation. It's still about trust, but your funds are a bit safer when you have the private key.

ChipMixer gives private keys instead of sending them to solve privacy / blockchain analysis problem. We are not against normal transactions.

Wow... Even I cannot say that my job is to destroy BitMixer. They did good job for the community for years, but they stopped innovating long time ago. I couldn't honestly say that bitcoin would be better without them.

Their strong points: trust and dedicated users (like you)
Our strong points: better privacy, faster, innovation

I know you are wearing their signature but shouldn't you address the concern which I raised?
I know that I'm wearing the signature of a competitor, that is actually the only reason I'm here in the first place.
Destroying this business and promote my own is my job as it is the rule of the market/business.
They didn't include what I'm doing as a must in their campaign but since I'm getting paid hundreds of dollars every month if I let this slide then I might not be getting payments at all, so this isn't personal but rather business just being practical.

If you want to keep your anonymity with being untraceable you need to use ChipMixer service.
I guess you already know about bitcoin transaction tracking.Somebody who knows one of your recently used bitcoin address can track and check your transactions.

For example:

I send you BTC from address  X to address Y.

Blockchain  shows output from my btc address (X) and input to your btc address (Y)

When using mixer service you send your coins to mixing pool (Z= X+nX+....+Y+nY)

"ChipMixer uses fixed amount "chips" of Bitcoin, that are funded before your deposit even arrives to process your withdraws, and lets you withdraw a private key, letting you pick the delay of time before you get the funds."  You  will got new fresh mixed chips: nXY

Now you have new address with private key which doesnt have any relation to "old" btc address.

There are some major flaws in this service:
How can I make sure after receiving the keys and if I wanted to store them for a very long time, how to make sure that you will not some day sweep the private keys and take my coins?

What if I wanted to send some coins from several addresses and then send their balances to one address which I don't own or control, should I simply send private keys to the buyer of my coins while he gave me an address and I have no means of communicating to let him know and even if I did then he wouldn't put his trust in me knowing I have the private keys.

Every transaction is visible on blockchain. ChipMixer innovation is about changing ownership not on blockchain, which makes it invisible.

Typical mixing process takes at least two transactions - deposit and withdrawal:
1 - now - your deposit of funds
2 - up to 24 hours - your withdrawal of funds

ChipMixer is different:
1 - few days/weeks ago - other user's deposit is split into chips, funding private keys
2 - now - your deposit of funds

Because ChipMixer funds private keys long before your visit, they cannot be linked with your transaction.

Welcome on board ChipMixer and it nice to have guys on here. But there something I don't really understand concerning the function of the ChipMixer and I want to know if I'm correct or not. Does ChipMixer work as a means to make bitcoin transaction invisible?
Thank you

Depends how high fee. I believe that fee is not very important part of mixer, especially ChipMixer.

Trust is very important (and as new mixer we don't have much of that).
Privacy is very important and that's what makes us special. Our process is less predictable for blockchain analysis.
Speed is important and we are faster than other mixers (only one transaction needs to be confirmed and I don't know any mixer that takes unconfirmed transactions).
But fee? Yes, it's donation-based, it's not that important.

I want to share my experience about ChipMixer service as alpha tester.

1. Is idea easy to understand? Hard? Impossible?

Yes,idea is brilliant! Nothing hard if you have basic knowledge about how crypto world works. Everything is simple and smooth. You just only need to dig around site and you will get whatever you want.There are good tips about site and mixing.

2. Are steps easy to understand?

You made every single step very easy,user just need to read and he/she can start to use service. Starting from deposit page to "destroy session" all steps are easy and comfortable for any noob friendly user.

3. Is splitting/merging chips fun?

I really enjoyed from merging/splitting my own funds. We all know that, nowadays big guys can trace bitcoin addresses.But wait there was ChipMixer.  
It  helps you to split your funds and send to different addresses.

4. What do you think about withdrawing private keys?

Without pivate key you dont have control over your bitcoins. I taked my private keys after splitting bitcoins and everything is perfect! User can export his private keys to electrum or just import that keys to any wallet.

5. Which method of withdrawal do you prefer? Why?

I always perefer sweep method with private keys. I send my splitted bitcoins to other bitcoin address. But sometimes i export to electrum wallet for better safety. Bitcoin users need privacy and you are best one compared to other mixers.

6. What do you think about user interface?

Interface is ok,every single step is easy,understandable and whole process is instant,smooth. I have some experience regarding to other mixers, i used their service also. But none of them is easy like this one. I enjoyed,keep good work, i hope all the best to  you and your team!

Long live ChipMixer  

We are giving an option now - try it for free and if you like it, pay what you think it is worth.
We are not denying that if this business model is wrong, we will change it. Would it be better to just close the service that everybody uses and likes, but not enough to pay for it?