Speaking of which, which is the best alternative to coinmap?
I should have good news very soon. Stay tuned!I go with http://cryptomap.info/ for now.
Topic: [ANN] CoinMap 2.0! (Map showing places where Bitcoin is accepted) - page 2. (Read 108146 times)
July 19, 2015, 08:12:15 PM
I go with http://cryptomap.info/ for now.
July 09, 2015, 09:55:11 PM
Speaking of which, which is the best alternative to coinmap?
I should have good news very soon. Stay tuned! July 09, 2015, 09:48:18 PM
Could you not provide an offer to do the work that OSM was insisting that Satoshi Labs was responsible for?
Actually I was doing this work. I fixed tons of mistakes.For me, CoinMap doesn't exist anymore.
Yes, this. Only hope that coinmap doesn't turn even more evil and goes on to remove all those very vulnerable OSM entries, destroying the value of the forks of the open source project that it was. Speaking of which, which is the best alternative to coinmap? One without the crappy heat-map and locked data?
July 04, 2015, 01:40:26 PM
Could you not provide an offer to do the work that OSM was insisting that Satoshi Labs was responsible for?
Actually I was doing this work. I fixed tons of mistakes.For me, CoinMap doesn't exist anymore.
Yes, I remember how much help you provided to everyone who asked questions in this thread, so it doesn't surprise me that you were trying to improve the data also.
I was similarly unimpressed with Armory when their retained legal counsel expressed a desire to use their free software license in order to create revenue. I carried on helping Armory, and will continue to do so until someone comes up with wallet software that rivals Armory's capabilities.
It seems a terrible waste to give up over something only as important as the licensing, some compromises are worth more than the alternative IMO. I guess it's up to everyone individually how you judge that trade-off; I don't want to tell you what you should do. I just wish we could all cooperate more, there's a lot of division in bitcoin recently, and it's not a healthy trend.
July 04, 2015, 12:55:51 PM
Could you not provide an offer to do the work that OSM was insisting that Satoshi Labs was responsible for?
Actually I was doing this work. I fixed tons of mistakes.For me, CoinMap doesn't exist anymore.
July 04, 2015, 12:18:13 PM
With CoinMap 2 do you take new nodes added in OSM?
No, because of the discussions with OSM data team I described earlier.
Stemby, you seem very motivated by this issue. Could you not provide an offer to do the work that OSM was insisting that Satoshi Labs was responsible for? Someone acceding to OSM's proclivities would really improve the quality of the data, and in turn the coinmap/OSM services.
July 04, 2015, 12:09:34 PM
With CoinMap 2 do you take new nodes added in OSM?
No, because of the discussions with OSM data team I described earlier.
July 04, 2015, 11:41:54 AM
With CoinMap 2 do you take new nodes added in OSM?
No, because of the discussions with OSM data team I described earlier.
July 04, 2015, 07:31:59 AM
With CoinMap 2 do you take new nodes added in OSM?
Thanks!
Thanks!
July 02, 2015, 05:07:10 AM
June 20, 2015, 01:47:49 PM
You are locking down the data and I will not contribute locations to that.
OSM has to acknowledge that coinmap also brings in new editors and I edited a lot more than just the 5 locations I added/removed. You could have opted for openness and instead you whine about lack of donations. Your choice but mine would have been to offer the OSM editing as a service.
Also I can only encourage all people to stay clear from coinmap's api unless the data is released under a permissive license that allows redistribution. Else you are at the mercy of coinmap charging for it tomorrow.
OSM has to acknowledge that coinmap also brings in new editors and I edited a lot more than just the 5 locations I added/removed. You could have opted for openness and instead you whine about lack of donations. Your choice but mine would have been to offer the OSM editing as a service.
Also I can only encourage all people to stay clear from coinmap's api unless the data is released under a permissive license that allows redistribution. Else you are at the mercy of coinmap charging for it tomorrow.
I fully agree here, perfectly formulated. But of course it is your choice, and I'm glad you spent all the time you did working on coinmap. It is (and was) a very useful service, indeed! In the future, I'll use OsmAnd's list of Bitcoin places instead.
June 19, 2015, 02:46:30 PM
You are locking down the data and I will not contribute locations to that.
OSM has to acknowledge that coinmap also brings in new editors and I edited a lot more than just the 5 locations I added/removed. You could have opted for openness and instead you whine about lack of donations. Your choice but mine would have been to offer the OSM editing as a service.
Also I can only encourage all people to stay clear from coinmap's api unless the data is released under a permissive license that allows redistribution. Else you are at the mercy of coinmap charging for it tomorrow.
OSM has to acknowledge that coinmap also brings in new editors and I edited a lot more than just the 5 locations I added/removed. You could have opted for openness and instead you whine about lack of donations. Your choice but mine would have been to offer the OSM editing as a service.
Also I can only encourage all people to stay clear from coinmap's api unless the data is released under a permissive license that allows redistribution. Else you are at the mercy of coinmap charging for it tomorrow.
June 14, 2015, 04:31:40 AM
I think this is a big mistake. Low quality of Bitcoin-related OSM nodes should be removed by users directly within coinmap and that should also reflect OSM data.
It is, but not from my side. Coinmap users neglected to do proper checking and cleanup of the venues and OSM people were quite unhappy about it and stated it was my responsibility to keep the data clean. This was not possible, because of the lack of time and almost no donations to hire people to do that.
For example: what if someone wants to create android version for bitcoin places and most new nodes are added within coinmap? How is this going to auto-sync?
There is an api for that https://coinmap.org/api/, so apps can use that.
June 12, 2015, 03:36:37 AM
Objects are no longer stored in OpenStreetMap. I had quite a long discussion with OSM folks some time ago and they were not very happy about the low quality (missing addresses, etc). of Bitcoin-related OSM nodes. So I decided to do just one-way sync (from OSM to coinmap).
I think this is a big mistake. Low quality of Bitcoin-related OSM nodes should be removed by users directly within coinmap and that should also reflect OSM data.One-way sync doesn't make any sense to me... the only centralized database should be OSM database. For example: what if someone wants to create android version for bitcoin places and most new nodes are added within coinmap? How is this going to auto-sync?
June 11, 2015, 12:38:59 PM
When did they write that?
This were the quotes from december 2013 by Richard Fairhurst. I also had several other discussions with the OSM data team, but I cannot find them at the moment.
Where is the attribution for OSM data?
At the bottom of https://coinmap.org/welcome/ (default page when you visit coinmap for the first time)
June 11, 2015, 12:33:45 PM
- "Please bear your responsibility in mind or people _will_ add incorrect data, and I will have no hesitation in setting up a bot to delete it instantly."
- "I would strongly recommend that you create your own database for businesses."
In any case:
Another problem: I think you are violating the license.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
Where is the attribution for OSM data?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
Where is the attribution for OSM data?
June 11, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
As I wrote, I don't like your choice at all.
Unfortunately I think I'll search for an alternative.
The same here Unfortunately I think I'll search for an alternative.
Fact #1: During its 2 years of existence coinmap got only 1.9 BTC in donations ($435 at the moment). That hardly covered server running costs.
Fact #2: OSM data team started to hold me personally responsible for low quality bitcoin venues that started to appear in OSM. Some quotations from email discussions:
- "Please bear your responsibility in mind or people _will_ add incorrect data, and I will have no hesitation in setting up a bot to delete it instantly."
- "I would strongly recommend that you create your own database for businesses."
These were the two reasons led to the changes you see now ...
June 11, 2015, 10:29:29 AM
Does "one-way sync" mean that if i add a point on your site, it won't be added on OSM? Am i right?
Correct. See the reason for this above.
As I wrote, I don't like your choice at all.
Unfortunately I think I'll search for an alternative.
The same here Unfortunately I think I'll search for an alternative.
June 11, 2015, 07:37:28 AM
Another problem: I think you are violating the license.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
Where is the attribution for OSM data?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
Where is the attribution for OSM data?
June 11, 2015, 07:28:41 AM
Does "one-way sync" mean that if i add a point on your site, it won't be added on OSM? Am i right?
Correct. See the reason for this above.
Unfortunately I think I'll search for an alternative.
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