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Topic: [ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018 - page 88. (Read 696254 times)

legendary
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That's good it will be fixed in 2.0. What is the current number of coins in circulation? Is the information currently available anywhere?
For some napkin math, we have 60673 blocks, each with a 13 CUR reward, so that's 788,749. Then we have had ~13 months of payouts, so that's 13*30*7488 = 2,920,320
That doesn't include PoS interest.

Thanks. So the market cap is closer to $75,000 than the $575,000 listed on coincap.io and coinmarketcap.com. That's a big difference, I wonder what the effect has been of giving the appearance that Curecoin is valued at 8 times what it really is... To some it probably gave the impression of greater credibility and larger investments, but I imagine a 75k market cap has more upside potential than 575k.
legendary
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Some basic updates and restyling of the logos has been posted to the github https://github.com/cygnusxi/CurecoinSource/ for the CureCoin 1.x.x versions. Release of a new win qt will follow soon, for anyone wanting to try the new style out you can compile this from source. This is a non mandatory update, so no worries for the win and mac users waiting for qt's.

Quick peak at the new client that will be available soon


oooo my gtx980 arrived just in time Smiley

is there any rpc command to see network weight and my weight for staking ?
sr. member
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CureCoin Lead Dev
Some basic updates and restyling of the logos has been posted to the github https://github.com/cygnusxi/CurecoinSource/ for the CureCoin 1.x.x versions. Release of a new win qt will follow soon, for anyone wanting to try the new style out you can compile this from source. This is a non mandatory update, so no worries for the win and mac users waiting for qt's.

Quick peak at the new client that will be available soon

sr. member
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CureCoin Lead Dev
That's good it will be fixed in 2.0. What is the current number of coins in circulation? Is the information currently available anywhere?
For some napkin math, we have 60673 blocks, each with a 13 CUR reward, so that's 788,749. Then we have had ~13 months of payouts, so that's 13*30*7488 = 2,920,320
That doesn't include PoS interest.

↑↑ Thanks Vorksholk, that is one item off the to-do list.

From the above post about Scientific Human-Mineable CureCoins, here is a link to the "how to" thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/human-mineable-scientific-crypto-integration-needs-you-curecoin-integration-1085941
legendary
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That's good it will be fixed in 2.0. What is the current number of coins in circulation? Is the information currently available anywhere?
For some napkin math, we have 60673 blocks, each with a 13 CUR reward, so that's 788,749. Then we have had ~13 months of payouts, so that's 13*30*7488 = 2,920,320
That doesn't include PoS interest.
sr. member
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CureCoin Lead Dev
That's good it will be fixed in 2.0. What is the current number of coins in circulation? Is the information currently available anywhere?

I can throw together an approximate number for you soon. Its not as cut and dry as folding coin since we have POS interest of 1% and also CureCoin 1.0 has a SHA mineable side to it( which will be eliminated in CC 2.0), and as we all know blocks dont crack exactly at the the given intervals they are supposed to IE ever waited for 1 hour + for a btc block to confirm?

That being said Ill try to work that into the release of a fully transparent ledger Im working on for all of the premine coins up to date. That is next on my to do list, hopefully will be done today.
 
Currently about to post the "how to" on getting into the first integrated Human-Mineable Scientific Crypto with CureCoin ( totally asic resistant  Wink )

Post will be up shortly on the details.
legendary
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That's good it will be fixed in 2.0. What is the current number of coins in circulation? Is the information currently available anywhere?
legendary
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Is the "available supply" on coincmarketcap correct? I thought 25,000,000 is high. Is the market cap really $575,000? I personally think it should be valued at that, but I am doubtful.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/curecoin/

I know coinmarketcap gets available supply wrong with many coins for many reasons. Is there a place to view the total number of curecoins directly? The block explorer link they post doesn't seem useful either.

Yup, the they're using the full coin supply, whereas a large portion of them are held as payout premine, so they're not part of the circulation. In 2.0 the premine will be gone, so any numbers at that time will be accurate.
hero member
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Is the "available supply" on coincmarketcap correct? I thought 25,000,000 is high. Is the market cap really $575,000? I personally think it should be valued at that, but I am doubtful.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/curecoin/

I know coinmarketcap gets available supply wrong with many coins for many reasons. Is there a place to view the total number of curecoins directly? The block explorer link they post doesn't seem useful either.
We had that same issue with coinmarketcap since both CURE and FLDC are centralized, the total coins they view are actually coins that may not be in cirrculation. So what we did is create an asset FLDCAPI in which we manually have x amount of FLDC (currently about 135 million) that is actually in circulation in a wallet that we provide to coinmarketcap, so then we just add more of these FLDCAPI to the wallet as more gets in circulation. I could help set that up so CUREAPI would be an accurate amount of CURE in cirrculation if you guys would like.

Also you could just make an API that you control that tallies how much CURE is in cirrculation, which might be the easier route
legendary
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Is the "available supply" on coincmarketcap correct? I thought 25,000,000 is high. Is the market cap really $575,000? I personally think it should be valued at that, but I am doubtful.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/curecoin/

I know coinmarketcap gets available supply wrong with many coins for many reasons. Is there a place to view the total number of curecoins directly? The block explorer link they post doesn't seem useful either.
sr. member
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CureCoin Lead Dev
Looks like Stanford's servers are having some stats reporting issues. We can't run payouts as we don't have current stats, but we will do extra proportional payouts when stats come back online--everything should be fine. Let us know if Stanford announces anything about stats servers, my head's buried in code and IRL stuff right now.

Stanford F@H servers back up already. Possibly with a newer server for the stats. https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=27762&start=15#p276916 . Impact should be rather minimal. As Pande Group explains all submitted work units are kept in a que so all units folded will be accounted for.

Happy folding
legendary
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Looks like Stanford's servers are having some stats reporting issues. We can't run payouts as we don't have current stats, but we will do extra proportional payouts when stats come back online--everything should be fine. Let us know if Stanford announces anything about stats servers, my head's buried in code and IRL stuff right now.
legendary
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Still squashing the last few bugs before I can release the 2.0 daemon, unfortunately.

I'm sure people want to see progress, so here's a zip file of the source code, with the networking code (the major headache source) over here removed, since it's gonna be completely overhauled tomorrow:
http://1.curecoinmirror.com/MainProgram.zip

Here's the current status:
-Need networking code fixed
-GUI (separate app) is bugged out
-A bit more refining is needed for the blockchain storage.

To launch the 2.0.0a1 daemon in a working condition, I need the networking code solid, and the blockchain storage tightened up a bit. I'm going to head off to bed as it's about 1 in the morning and I've been staring at code since morning, and I'm sure >90% of my productivity was in the first 10-ish hours of working. I have some stuff in real life to tend to tomorrow, so I'm hoping to get a daemon out by tomorrow evening, but we'll see, this morning I thought this would be a simple addition of networking code, and it seems that's just not the case.

Objects in there that are broken have been replaced with some default object so they compile for other tests.

And you'll notice the 2nd constructor in Block isn't finished, that's gonna take about 10 minutes to do, just don't have the brainpower to do it and test right now.
legendary
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Thanks guys! Just the kind of reality check I was looking for. Maybe one day... For now I'll just offer curecoin buy support to encourage established folders.
legendary
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It would be epic to couple a 980-ti with a solar system. Assuming it could be done for $1,500-$2,000; at 2,000 satoshi, 80 curecoins per day, and a bitcoin price of $400 that could pay for itself in: 6 to 9 years...  Undecided

At 10,000 satoshi, and $250 per bitcoin it could pay for itself in 2 to 3 years.

Total back of the napkin calculations from a noob who just googled GPU power consumption and solar panel costs  Wink but I'd appreciate input. As a molecular biologist, environmentalist, and crypto and curecoin enthusiast I may be willing to tackle such a project if the math appears close.

Perhaps it could claim solarcoin as well.

That would be awesome, especially if you live in a very sunny area. However, as pallas pointed out, you'd have to have a lot more than ~500W of solar panels, unless you only wanted to run the 980 Ti during the day. When I talk about solar, I'm completely spitballing, but I'd guess that between solar panels, components, and power storage, it'd cost north of $2000. A machine with a 980 Ti that's good at folding would probably run you a minimum of $925:
-$90 mobo
-$50 CPU
-$60 PSU
-$25 Hard Drive
-$50 RAM
-$650 GPU

You might get slightly cheaper with used parts or if you have existing hardware. Anyhow, that'll probably draw somewhere around 300W at the wall at full power, which would be around 223kWh/mo. Some quick googling shows $10,500 for an 815 kWh/mo system (with apparently a 30% subsidy in many states, bringing that price down to around $7350). That's $9.02 per kWh/mo, so that's around $2011.46 in infrastructure costs, assuming solar panel production scales appropriately, whereas in reality the cost per kWh/mo will probably increase as you decrease the size of the panel deployment.
legendary
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It would be epic to couple a 980-ti with a solar system. Assuming it could be done for $1,500-$2,000; at 2,000 satoshi, 80 curecoins per day, and a bitcoin price of $400 that could pay for itself in: 6 to 9 years...  Undecided

At 10,000 satoshi, and $250 per bitcoin it could pay for itself in 2 to 3 years.

Total back of the napkin calculations from a noob who just googled GPU power consumption and solar panel costs  Wink but I'd appreciate input. As a molecular biologist, environmentalist, and crypto and curecoin enthusiast I may be willing to tackle such a project if the math appears close.

Perhaps it could claim solarcoin as well.

I have solar panels and what I can tell you for sure is that there are a lot of ways to use the extra energy better (I.e. more profitable) than mining any crypto.

- sending it back to the grid
- accumulating it to use at night or during bad weather
- trying to use high power appliances when sunny instead of at low cost hours (ex. night)
- heating by heat pump instead of gas or oil
- buy an electric car
 
Etc.

Moreover solar panels generate electricity only when sunny, so not suited to full time power consuming jobs.

I think you should plan solar panels for your house or office regardless of mining. Then you might want to use it for mining as well... But you'll see at the moment.
legendary
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It would be epic to couple a 980-ti with a solar system. Assuming it could be done for $1,500-$2,000; at 2,000 satoshi, 80 curecoins per day, and a bitcoin price of $400 that could pay for itself in: 6 to 9 years...  Undecided

At 10,000 satoshi, and $250 per bitcoin it could pay for itself in 2 to 3 years.

Total back of the napkin calculations from a noob who just googled GPU power consumption and solar panel costs  Wink but I'd appreciate input. As a molecular biologist, environmentalist, and crypto and curecoin enthusiast I may be willing to tackle such a project if the math appears close.

Perhaps it could claim solarcoin as well.
legendary
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Great staking concept. Long maturation period, somewhat high minimum; encourages holding.

I see the 750ti has 3 different ports, will only the hdmi port on my laptop be sufficient or are the DVI or display port needed?

It's also available on overstock to buy with bitcoin (although slightly higher cost).



Thanks!

The 750 Ti needs to be plugged into a PCI-e port on a motherboard, so you'll have to put it in a desktop machine. You can't plug desktop GPUs into laptops, except for someone who hacked together a thunderbolt to PCI-e adapter that I'd doubt would work well for folding. It'll need a moderately-good PSU as well.
legendary
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For anyone interested, here's what a certificate looks like:

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The first chunk of data ({C5225PU2X6QBBZGCQEJBYEIMTRTVPAOEMFCIDR:vorksholk:181673:CureLabs:166:1c18b3a078485bd6abf5eed35360f05fabdc937db5cf3608ac1cb81d6dd066ef}) is the human-readable part of the certificate, and is what is signed by the certificate authority. The address there is the address that the certificate will pay out to if a block is mined with the certificate. In Bitcoin-speak, this address will receive the coinbase transaction. The 2nd string (vorksholk) is the arbitrary data section. This will be used by people who want to pool mine, as they will put the pool address where the coinbase destination address goes, and they will put their username in the arbitrary data section. This is limited to a length of 40 characters--which means it could fit a curecoin address. P2Pool, anyone? The third part (181673) is the max nonce. This means that this certificate can be hashed with nonces from 0 to this number in an attempt to solve a block by getting a hash under the required difficulty. The fourth part (CureLabs) is the name of the issuing institution. CureLabs and CureSystems will be the names of the two issuing authorities on the Alpha testnet. The firth part (166) is the block number, and the sixth part (1c18b3a078485bd6abf5eed35360f05fabdc937db5cf3608ac1cb81d6dd066ef) is the previous block hash. By design, certificates can't be 'stored' for later use, as that'd make 51%-style attacks easy. Certificates are bound to a block AND a hash (binding them to a hash helps prevent network forks by keeping people on the same fork as the certificate authorities), so they must be used now-or-never. People could, of course, receive a certificate that is capable of mining a block and never redeem it, similar to finding a winning nonce in traditional mining and not publishing the block.

That chunk of spam in the middle is a 20-layer signature. The first 100 parts (those separated by "::") comprise a 100-bit Lamport signature. To sign a message, the message is hashed, and the first 100 bits from the hash are used. For each position in the 100 bits (positions 0 through 99), there are two Lamport keys. For each bit, one of the two Lamport keys is revealed, depending on whether that bit is a zero or a one. This means 200 total keys comprise a full Lamport keypair. These are all hashed together and used as one leaf in the Merkle Tree. The Merkle Tree that signed the above message has 20 layers, which means 2^19 (or 524,288) keypairs. As such, the above address can sign 524,288 messages safely. When verifying the certificate signature, clients take two steps: they hash the 100 private parts of the Lamport signature so they have a total of 200 ordered parts of the signature. They then climb back up the (in this case, 20-layer) Merkle Tree using the data in the above chunk of spam as layers. The signature number determines what number Lamport Signature was used in signing the message, and is then used to determine the order of the climber and adjacent branch. The tree is climbed, and if the end hash at the top is the same as the 32-character Base32 hash in the address (in this case, A1H6CHCCRZZKW67NRSUHCQGWI4GWVYOCXGKYF6) then the certificate validates.

Finally, that end chunk is the signature index, so that's used to calculate the Lamport Signature Keypair's original leaf position so the tree can be climbed in the correct order.

A lot of work, huh? The exact same process happens for every transaction on the network, too. As you would expect, signatures that large sure do add a bit of weight to the blockchain. As a result, we're using a blockchain that's not required in-full to be able to operate. A public flatfile ledger is modified by confirmed blocks, and 'checkmarked' by hash in each block. Once a block is older than the PoS range (21600 blocks, most likely) it can be deleted. The default implementation we are using in 2.0.0a1 will keep the entire blockchain, however if/when the blockchain becomes large enough in the future to warrant it, peers could manually delete blocks, and the client will eventually automatically delete blocks when using more than the space allocated by the user.

By design, the client won't switch forks to a blockchain that's longer than the current one if the forking point is more than 10 blocks back, so once a transaction has 10 confirmations, only a manual intervention to fix some massive network problem could ever reverse that transaction (unless of course some significant network segmentation occurred in which half of the network was on one fork and half on another fork that were divergent more than 10 blocks ago, in which case the transaction would exist on one chain and not on another). We'll test to see how this works on testnet in alpha, but the idea seems very solid on paper.

Blocks are applied immediately to the ledger upon receipt. When a block is orphaned, the transactions from that block are reversed in the ledger, and the transactions for the replacement block are immediately executed. As such, coins should not be assumed safe until confirmed by a few blocks. 10 blocks is nearly a sure-fire guarantee.
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Great staking concept. Long maturation period, somewhat high minimum; encourages holding.

I see the 750ti has 3 different ports, will only the hdmi port on my laptop be sufficient or are the DVI or display port needed?

It's also available on overstock to buy with bitcoin (although slightly higher cost).

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