[ANN] DAO PlayMarket 2.0 - App Store based on the blockchain and smart contracts - page 13.

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Quote from: Vansire on November 15, 2017, 08:58:31 AM

Developers of popular apps can sell them at a lower price on PlayMarket than on the official App Stores at no loss because of the lower fee. I don't know if that's against the TOS though.

yes or lil indi games developer can bring their product on the man for a low price.

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Quote from: lobat999 on November 14, 2017, 08:25:32 AM

Earlier in the thread, I've mentioned about free apps being published on the DAOPM App Store by developers, and I wonder if what will be the implications with regards to this scenario.

Yeah good that you came up with this again, there hasn't been a statement on free apps with ads from any of the team so far.

I am not sure how would the profits would be distributed if devs got money via google ads for example. That would be confusing as hell to distribute and explaining in taxes why are using your income from google to buying cryptocurrencies and sending them to anonymous people.

What benefits can a developer obtain from the App store if his or her app is published for free and vice versa?

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Developers of popular apps can sell them at a lower price on PlayMarket than on the official App Stores at no loss because of the lower fee. I don't know if that's against the TOS though.

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Quote from: cantdecide on November 15, 2017, 02:37:44 AM

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Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 01:53:09 AM

Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

I think it is good to ask for initial fee, otherwise everyone would dump their apps on the platform. But 30% of your profit seems like too much. If Playmarket can really lower that fee, like they promise, it may be attract a lot of developers.

If you want to avoid dumping apps at their platform 25$ is a bit low ... that's something a school kid can offord with his pocket money lol
To attract developer, sure it's one point to lower the fee, but also to have a big enough userbase. If they don't have enough user, why should developer go to PlayMarket? 25$ is nothing for an developer and if they have the chance to get much more income through the official app store, even with higher percentage, they probably will choose this. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is need for another store.

Well user base is going to be the first hurdle that we have to tackle for sure. But if it is done cleverly by rewarding early participants or something, it is not a problem for long. I am pretty sure that this can't fight with google for the userbase but we only need a small share of it. The ones that user cryptocurrencies as a payment for starters.

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Quote from: levyashin on November 15, 2017, 07:27:04 AM

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Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

They are targeting all apps because google rules are not that strict that would decline many developers from uploading their apps to play store.

that's fine , but there has to be some restrictions on the apps. there are rules for a reason.

They probably implement some but not they won't be strict like google.

Yes of course, that's what they are promoting on their videos

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Quote from: the_donald on November 15, 2017, 06:39:14 AM

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Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

They are targeting all apps because google rules are not that strict that would decline many developers from uploading their apps to play store.

that's fine , but there has to be some restrictions on the apps. there are rules for a reason.

They probably implement some but not they won't be strict like google.

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Quote from: matjas on November 15, 2017, 03:57:00 AM

Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 12:19:32 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 14, 2017, 10:31:31 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

They are targeting all apps because google rules are not that strict that would decline many developers from uploading their apps to play store.

that's fine , but there has to be some restrictions on the apps. there are rules for a reason.

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Quote from: Frank37 on November 15, 2017, 03:56:43 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 15, 2017, 02:37:44 AM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 15, 2017, 02:29:01 AM

Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 01:53:09 AM

Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

I think it is good to ask for initial fee, otherwise everyone would dump their apps on the platform. But 30% of your profit seems like too much. If Playmarket can really lower that fee, like they promise, it may be attract a lot of developers.

If you want to avoid dumping apps at their platform 25$ is a bit low ... that's something a school kid can offord with his pocket money lol
To attract developer, sure it's one point to lower the fee, but also to have a big enough userbase. If they don't have enough user, why should developer go to PlayMarket? 25$ is nothing for an developer and if they have the chance to get much more income through the official app store, even with higher percentage, they probably will choose this. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is need for another store.

Beside this, there is of course the need of an alternative to google in every case.

And it would be good, to have two or three other stores with better conditions related to earn money.

yes an alternative is always useful anyway I believe migration happens by degrees first they will create a considerable user pool so with a lot of userbase and low fee they can attract developers to publish new apps on the market...

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Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 12:19:32 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 14, 2017, 10:31:31 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

They are targeting all apps because google rules are not that strict that would decline many developers from uploading their apps to play store.

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Quote from: cantdecide on November 15, 2017, 02:37:44 AM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 15, 2017, 02:29:01 AM

Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 01:53:09 AM

Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

I think it is good to ask for initial fee, otherwise everyone would dump their apps on the platform. But 30% of your profit seems like too much. If Playmarket can really lower that fee, like they promise, it may be attract a lot of developers.

If you want to avoid dumping apps at their platform 25$ is a bit low ... that's something a school kid can offord with his pocket money lol
To attract developer, sure it's one point to lower the fee, but also to have a big enough userbase. If they don't have enough user, why should developer go to PlayMarket? 25$ is nothing for an developer and if they have the chance to get much more income through the official app store, even with higher percentage, they probably will choose this. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is need for another store.

Beside this, there is of course the need of an alternative to google in every case.

And it would be good, to have two or three other stores with better conditions related to earn money.

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With DAO PlayMarket 2.0 you have a apps market on the blockchain with smart contract. Great.

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Quote from: Yasemin on November 15, 2017, 02:29:01 AM

Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 01:53:09 AM

Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

I think it is good to ask for initial fee, otherwise everyone would dump their apps on the platform. But 30% of your profit seems like too much. If Playmarket can really lower that fee, like they promise, it may be attract a lot of developers.

If you want to avoid dumping apps at their platform 25$ is a bit low ... that's something a school kid can offord with his pocket money lol
To attract developer, sure it's one point to lower the fee, but also to have a big enough userbase. If they don't have enough user, why should developer go to PlayMarket? 25$ is nothing for an developer and if they have the chance to get much more income through the official app store, even with higher percentage, they probably will choose this. But maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is need for another store.

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Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 01:53:09 AM

Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

I think it is good to ask for initial fee, otherwise everyone would dump their apps on the platform. But 30% of your profit seems like too much. If Playmarket can really lower that fee, like they promise, it may be attract a lot of developers.

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Google require a one time fee of 25$ to start publishing your apps. Then they get 30% of the profit generated by you app if any.

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Quote from: magisterr on November 14, 2017, 09:43:26 AM

How much fees they will charge from apps devepopers?

A lot less than Google and Apple, I need to find back the numbers.

Does anybody know how much Google and Apple charge? I think between 10-20%. Am I right?

I think it's 30% .. not 100% sure though.
Regarding the Apple issue, afaik it won't be possible to list the app on the IOS App Store, however via side loading it will be possible to get the app on your IOS device.

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Quote from: the_donald on November 15, 2017, 01:22:58 AM

Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 12:19:32 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 14, 2017, 10:31:31 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

like what? black market apps? there is a downside to that you know.

I don't think it is like that.

There are too many game apps that have the option to gain money from it and Google is not allowing that. There is probably some more area google don't let it but it is not the black market.

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Quote from: Piggy on November 15, 2017, 12:19:32 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on November 14, 2017, 10:31:31 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

like what? black market apps? there is a downside to that you know.

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Quote from: Jay2408 on November 14, 2017, 12:11:45 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Actually, they have already outlined in their whitepaper the measures how to attract users. Interesting, that they plan to involve celebrities

"The main goal of this campaign is to increase loyalty and gain the trust of users. To achieve his goal, we will launch native advertising on thematic Internet resources of different languages with MAUs over 120 thousand and involve celebrities in our project"

The reason I am asking is, because it seems like a very hard job to attract google users to another platform. Advertising is the minimum of what they should do, but I was hoping for concrete plans on this. I think they should do more than just advertising. For example; Giving away free stuff/sponsoring developers with their apps and make it available only on Playmarket.

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Quote from: cantdecide on November 14, 2017, 10:31:31 PM

Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

They are targeting all those app that cannot go in the official market i believe. Google has strict rule for example.

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Quote from: matjas on November 14, 2017, 12:00:49 PM

Quote from: Yasemin on November 14, 2017, 10:36:37 AM

What is Playmarkets strategy to gain mass adoption of users? How will you attract new users?

I doubt they have a concrete answer to your question. The fact is google store have a massive support and user base and i will be hard to lure users to PlayMarket 2.0. I think we have to be patient.

Exactly out of the reasons you are stateing they should already have a strategy and concept how they want to get user into their PlayMarket, otherwise they will lose ground fast out there.

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