Topic: [ANN] [DC] Dark Clam |BOUNTY ->| We need more developers. | J-D wager | - page 11. (Read 25928 times)

What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

Andu, none of your long winded replies mean shit.

A) You cannot be trusted to distribute anything, period.
B) Information was hidden or withheld in order to save face.
C) It is impossible to tell how many have been pocketed by you and daxxog.
D) You are dragging dooglus into this bullshit to give it credibility.
E) Inability to maintain professional appearance under criticism.


Lets get the facts straight here. You have a unlocked/unlimited XCP asset and you are tricking / manipulating people into believing they will have value in order to steal BTC from JD users. That isn't speculation, that isn't me trying to bully you. That is exactly what is happening and given the fact that we have no way of knowing that the distribution was fair or not I'm calling this shit a scam and you should really reconsider what you are doing.

Make sure those who were unfortunate enough to trade real money for this bullshit broken "coin" are paid back.. DarkScam should not be traded in its current state nor should you be claiming you have no premine when the entire fucking thing is premined..

I was wondering what he can do, his threat was spam and fud, i believe those things are good, it just shows they bother.
Edit: @klye This makes me remember that you threatened me first , but i didnt really threatened you.

idk i have no trust issues with the distribution tbh i trust daxxog so idk maybe everyone just has different views on the whole thing

You dont have proof for ANYTHING because i have done anything, i been as transparent as possible and it is transparent if you bother to look, all you do is fud and spam.

This isn't a personal issue, I don't really have a problem with andu besides the fact he is being dishonest in his given info initially on DarkScam.

But now this shit is starting to cost people money.. and personally if this isn't a scam I'd like to see any trades been done refunded and the trust issues in the distribution fixed before this shit goes on any further. As it sits I'm calling this a poorly thought out plan at worst or a shit scam at best.

Oh you using BB style

lol get your facts straight jpcfan has like 300k there are probably only 1 or 2 people with a million

Andu was the one pushing this DarkScam garbage in JD. I hold him personally responsible for any BTC lost in trades among users.
Had he not been hyping this trash up and spamming it all over users would not have perceived it to be valuable nor would have they spent BTC on it.

Given that info, I urge that no one even bother with this "coin" nor trade it until concerns in above posts have been addressed and fixed.

- Get rich they said, real value they said... All while stuffing their pockets with them and fucking people out of BTC for a worthless token.

how is that a scam when there are plenty of coins being bought as an asset  like iota peoplle have spent 100s of btc on the iota asset so idk what your whole trip is just cause you and andu bumped heads on jd doesnt mean you need to try n bash on something just cause of a personal issue

"I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties."

say whaaaa?     there are like literally thousands for pennies on the market, and not ONE sale has been done, how is andu responsible for private sales between idiots (i say idiots because who would buy that crap jpcfan himself has like 1mil of them)
tht being said i still agree , way to many messed up distro problems and NEEDS to be trustless, only way in crypto nowadays

As it sits their are to many points of failure in this distribution method. It needs to be made trust-less.

Personally I wouldn't touch this shit regardless with a 10 foot pole, Given that their PR guy andu basically reacted exactly how one would think a scammer would.

If you had actually thought about the mechanics of the distribution and making it foolproof and trustless you wouldn't be having me whistle blow..

However, Your inability to state the truth about the XCP asset, the premine and the subsequent uttering of threats in JD after I tried multiple times to discuss this matter with you in a civilized manner left me no choice.. I will not allow this project to be given perceived value nor will I allow you to hype this bullshit in any places I frequent until either a trust-less system has been put in place or you refund any BTC lost in trading this bogus shit.

I know of atleast one transaction of 0.5 BTC was traded for darkscam.. This should be refunded immediately by the trading parties.
The fact that you were knowingly allowing this shit to be traded while the asset is unlocked and unlimited screams scam.

Do not trade darkscam for BTC until the developers address the issues noted in above posts. Until then I am calling scam on this shit.

hmmm, ya see my problem was initial distribution
my gripe was seeing hardcore gamblers own literally 500k DC , while many on the list had 100-500

"distributed MOSTLY to the largest gamblers"
seems legit ;p
just that alone for me is no way to make a coin, as to me, EVERYONE should get fair shakes at coins (original btc-qt had setgenerate)
but idk, see what happens ;p

And now we have andu uttering death threats to me on JD...


Seems a very professional approach to dealing with whistle blowers eh? Suggest you'll kill them. /sarcasm

Rather than acting like a child whom's birthday was taken I'd highly suggest you perhaps work on a trustless version of this project, because as it sits right now I'm going to advise everyone against even bothering with this fucking garbage cash grab you've dreamed up to fuck JD users.

Just a reminder that this (andu) obviously level headed and extremely pleasant individual has access to the supposedly non-existant DarkScam premine and will distribute it fairly to you all, and then burn the rest... Of course once he's done threatening to kill me.

I personally think, that several people had the "inside" scoop on clam and how it was going to be givin out. And people got a shit ton of btc address to get a massive load of coin.

My opinion doesn't matter anyway, but just my 2cents

All im saying is that your saying its so unheard of that it is just being trusted that daxxog or andu didnt premine or theres no way to prove that they dont have some set aside..well the same thing can be said about clam theres no way to prove that xploited or cc didnt load up a bunch of addresses to claim more clam its essentially the same thing but yeah not accusing Anyone just throwin my 2 cents out there on the last comment i read

Sooooo I think it is a good idea but I think we need a statement from doog on what he plans and how he plans to use dc. It makes sense if he is going to take over the project in some way. Sorry I don't want to be a hater but you cant ask me to vote without knowing exactly what Im voting for. And I guess Im not the only one who has these questions. Get doog to make a statement and Im sure everyone will be more than happy for him to take over 54 percent of the initial distribution.

Well, I guess I'll finally make this information public before more people get sucked into this DarkClam bullshit.


First off, DarkClam is nothing more than an unlocked unlimited XCP asset, Meaning that the developers can essentially create more whenever.
Promises to have an actual crypto done up have been flying around, but not a single member of the darkclam team seems capable of such work.

The OP of this post (andu) deliberately deceived people initially stating DarkClam was not an XCP asset, However later it was found out to be.
I know of more than a few occurrences where JD users have been sucked in by this shit and traded BTC for these essentially worthless unlimited XCP assets...

Now wait a second...

These guys are claiming that this darkclam may have some value in the future all the while being able to create as many coins as they want..
The problem that this creates is that is it impossible to tell exactly how many DarkClam they've created from nothing.. and also how many they may claim to have distributed while stuffing them in their own pockets. Far too many points of trust failure here, and given that andu already has been caught deceiving people initially about what this "coin" really is do you honestly think that he doesn't have a hidden stash or premine set aside?

So OP (andu) already has been caught spreading mis-information about the project from the get go.. And now we are going to trust him to have not filled his own pockets with these limitless assets which are essentially IOU's for some clone coin that they *may* be creating (which, given the design of this "coin" MUST be premined in order to supply the users that claimed the XCP asset with the "actual coin")

Next comes my favourite part, The vote they have going currently for march 16th basically allows you to either vote for them to be "burned" (why would you have to burn anything if no premine as stated in thread title?) or to have them all transferred to JD owner dooglus to further distribute...

I'd like to ask dooglus why he's even risking his trust getting involved with a project that basically from the start was designed to allow the developers to create unlimited amounts of coins with no sure way of telling if they've properly distributed or burned them all. (Again, why do you need to burn coins if their is no premine as stated in thread title?). Personally dooglus if I was you I would stay as far removed from this project as possible. Why create more work for yourself while risking your reputation on something that wasn't properly thought out from the get go.

When it's proven that this was all an elaborate scheme cooked up by the developers to fuck people out of their hard earned BTC you're probably not going to want any involvement at all.


This project as it is laid out currently has far to many points of failure, Taking the developers word that the distribution was done fairly doesn't fucking fly in crypto land and given that OP has already been caught trying to deceive people about the true nature of this project I would highly advise you skip over this scam in the making and not waste your BTC or CLAM supporting a project solely intended to pad the pockets of the developers via embezzled premined assets.. Dark Clam's scam potential is undeniable and andu doesn't want you to know this info.



Don't buy into bullshit dark clam hype. Adding dark to a coins name and making an unlimited XCP asset with the promise to fairly distribute and burn is absolutely fucking absurd considering you claim no premine but the entire idea behind this cannot work without said premine.


TL:DR; Andu lied about what DarkClam was initially, has been trading unlocked XCP assets while promising users they will have value (they won't) all under the promise that it will be fairly distributed (unlikely) all while trying to drag dooglus into it to give this scam in the making credibility.




"Don't worry we'll make sure it's distributed fairly, trust us, we totally didn't make this "coin" so we could embezzle a fair chunk" -Andu's expected response.


P.S. Great idea, terrible execution. If you want your projects to be successful do not allow andu's PR anywhere near it. Any credibility this "coin" may have had is absolutely smashed now given the fact your public relations guy can't even keep his fucking story straight.

13,153,520.94786813 or 54.03522979% will go to dooglas. "Transferring control" of the asset to doog means he can update the token information, create unlimited new tokens, or "lock" the token in to prevent more coins from being created.

I currently control the token (and don't want to), which is why we are holding this vote.

darkclam will NEVER be "mineable". However it will be "obtainable" down the road via a fair staking system.