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Topic: [ANN] [DC] Dark Clam |BOUNTY ->| We need more developers. | J-D wager | - page 10. (Read 25926 times)

legendary
Activity: 2338
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Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it
Not really a big mess, i mean its easy to see which adresses voted, and i dont think everyone will vote, besides is a small amount if i take it that way, lets say 200 claimers, .0002 each its like .04, i think its worth as long as people stop finding excuses.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.

That seems like it would e a big ass mess. To only refund the people that vote on the last day.

I'm not going to vote, i dont care what you all do with it
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
Since all the polemic regarding this ill refund the voting fee to everyone that votes the day the voting is closed.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
there has to be a free way for all of us to vote. I agree
Its the easier way, im not making a poll here, or any user could vote. Im thinking about sending the fee to everyone.
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 10
there has to be a free way for all of us to vote. I agree
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
Anyway you can just make a VOTE poll thread?

I'm not going to be voting from counterparty, mostly because it's confusing, and also they charge you btc to do anything.

Andu - Message me, i'd be happy to be part of the team.

Also, I'd vote for the dooglus idea.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
Thank you for the transaction list andu. Will look at it shortly.

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

I'm just going off what I've been told clover and in all honesty I was just trying to ensure you hadn't pissed away half a BTC on what is essentially an IOU for an undeveloped coin that can be printed in infinite amount at the moment.

Starting a topic in scam accusations is redundant, as people reading this thread need to be informed as to what they are actually getting into and that these can be created at any time under the promise that they will be distributed or burnt. This in my opinion is extremely risky to anyone planning to hold or trade the coins as at any given time if a market order was put up they would be able to create more darkclam and dump them onto the market.



All this aside, I would like to hear andu out and see if he has any proposal to limit 3rd party liabilities on this project. Going off of scouts honor seems a little risky or calculated and involving doog as escrow could be misconstrued as attempting to piggy back off his trust. I believe these are valid concerns and I invite any other users to voice their concerns about this project as well.

DarkClam may have potential, But in it's current state their is far to much trust being placed on the developers to not print and pocket themselves a mountain of DC IOU's before the actual coin comes out... Even if you announced a 1% or 0.5% premine and were open about it I'm sure it would help alleviate some concerns others have. No one develops coins for free, and the only reason shitcoins exist is to take money out of peoples pockets and put it into yours.
I like to spend time in front of a screen more than anything else, we dont want premine the distribution is public, all the trust on us is as long as we hold the leftover, and that will end in about two weeks, daxxog is not really developing for free, he is making my dice and he doesnt pay commission, besides we have few more projects on the way.
3rd party liabilities? Daxxog wanted to just burn it, and doog thrown the idea of continuing the distribution so we can have a fixed supply (check early posts), so i proposed using doog as escrow.
I dont have time atm to write a full answer but i will edit later, i didnt saw this reply of yours till now.
Edit: I actually had speaked with daxxog about this, what if instead of us taking a premine dooglus takes like 1% of the leftover as small reward for escrowing, or whatever we do.
jr. member
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legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
when i offsite max at darkclam dice my 147,000 dark clam will turn into 1 million darkclam fast.


i will have blue betting there
People was bitching cuz the way of the distribution, i see no fairer way to do it, its tecnically impossible to cheat this way. Besides most of us lost a lot hence i think this is a good chance flr ourselves to redeem ourselves lol.
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 502
I miss dooglus
when i offsite max at darkclam dice my 147,000 dark clam will turn into 1 million darkclam fast.


i will have blue betting there
member
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full member
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Merit: 108
i like the fonz....








for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!


lol .02
full member
Activity: 291
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The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

"The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters. " god that has me cracking up right now
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
i like the fonz....









for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!
This is prolly not the place to speak about it, but not sure if id like offsite. Eitherway there is another site that will accept DC too.
hero member
Activity: 905
Merit: 502
I miss dooglus
i like the fonz....









for the record i had 347,000 darkclam. i sold 200,000 darkclam to 2 people for a total of 0.52btc.


i'm decided to keep the other 147,000 darkclam and will invest it in the new darkclam dice site when it goes live. and when it goes live my next move would be to type these words into chat:


/offsite max  


.........bitches!!!!!
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
Thank you for the transaction list andu. Will look at it shortly.

The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.

I'm just going off what I've been told clover and in all honesty I was just trying to ensure you hadn't pissed away half a BTC on what is essentially an IOU for an undeveloped coin that can be printed in infinite amount at the moment.

Starting a topic in scam accusations is redundant, as people reading this thread need to be informed as to what they are actually getting into and that these can be created at any time under the promise that they will be distributed or burnt. This in my opinion is extremely risky to anyone planning to hold or trade the coins as at any given time if a market order was put up they would be able to create more darkclam and dump them onto the market.



All this aside, I would like to hear andu out and see if he has any proposal to limit 3rd party liabilities on this project. Going off of scouts honor seems a little risky or calculated and involving doog as escrow could be misconstrued as attempting to piggy back off his trust. I believe these are valid concerns and I invite any other users to voice their concerns about this project as well.

DarkClam may have potential, But in it's current state their is far to much trust being placed on the developers to not print and pocket themselves a mountain of DC IOU's before the actual coin comes out... Even if you announced a 1% or 0.5% premine and were open about it I'm sure it would help alleviate some concerns others have. No one develops coins for free, and the only reason shitcoins exist is to take money out of peoples pockets and put it into yours.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
The last time I saw this much drama BEFORE a coin launch was when the Fonz slapped a pinball machine for free quarters.  This level of retarded conjecture is amazing.

1) I didn't buy any coins from CBIindex
2) Caveat Emptor - I speculate on assets and coins all the time.  We all our big-boy pants on and know what speculative investing means for assets/coins.

Take your argument to the Scam Accusations thread where it belongs, all of you know better.  You're acting like newbies here, knock it off.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1047
What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

Perhaps you need to have a look at what the title of this thread says, Claiming no premine and then stating to have left overs for future claiming are contradictory and further hurt the credibility of this.. While we can see that coins have been moved we have no way of ensuring what coins were supposed to go where..

A2) Perhaps not, But you are still hyping a severely flawed "coin". (it was my understanding you were from what I was told)
B2) I asked you before about where the XCP asset was located. You told me to fuck off.
C2) How? You tell me. I'm 99% sure no one is going to take the time to audit the entire distribution, Which is what you are counting on.
D2) You're blatantly trying to borrow doog's trusted status to give credibility to an otherwise completely flawwed distro method.
E2) Perhaps then instead of threatening to kill me take my advice and pointers, I like the idea of DC but as it sits it's COMPLETELY fucked and hyping it up and inferring to people that it may hold value in the future while you can freely create them on promise to properly distribute / burn them could be misconstrued as very scammy given the fact that you've claimed no premine yet have 13 Million or something of them sitting there...

So far you told me about cloverme and CBIindex's trade for DC and BTC which costed cloverme 0.5 BTC.

Can you think of anyone else of the top of your head?



Contrary to popular belief I'm not witch hunting you or on an anti darkclam crusade, I am honestly concerned at the lack of thought and the points of failure the current chosen distribution method holds. It's already costed one user a fair sum of BTC already.. I'm trying to prevent more needless loss on something that really shouldn't be traded until done properly via coding instead of asset creation and "scouts honor".
Seems that cloverme bought from someone else, so cbi sold to someone else. Eitherway if you check darkclam.com you would find this:
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77   40.4   14ePZpni6Sz7n2PmYSwBtkkwqwiwb7xqJf
80   0   /private
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the future is only a transaction away.

You can also find the bootstrap

I never told you to fuck off, i told oyu the answer many times till i got tired of you, as i said before you admited and i guess you still admit that you dont bother to research, fud first questions later?

The bot that checks the distribution is open sourced i think.

newbie
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Well if anyone would like to buy some DC, im selling at 0.0001btc
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1003
Designer - Developer
What part you dont understand, the leftover is for FUTURE CLAIMING with fixed supply if whoever claimed chooses to keep the distribution going, you can see if any coin was moved.
A: I am not distributing anything
B: How hidden? All you fuding about is on XCP
C: HOW? You can see our stats they been taken directly from jd, you can check yourself the codes i guess, check daxxog github.
D: Using it as escrow is a good move i agree lol.
E: I never intended to be profesional, im 20yo i cannot be that profesional yet, beside i like shit as it is.
Oh, and how can i scam them? Selling them darkclsms for the address that contains them? I cannot do that, im no coder, daxxog could, but i doubt he would.

Perhaps you need to have a look at what the title of this thread says, Claiming no premine and then stating to have left overs for future claiming are contradictory and further hurt the credibility of this.. While we can see that coins have been moved we have no way of ensuring what coins were supposed to go where..

A2) Perhaps not, But you are still hyping a severely flawed "coin". (it was my understanding you were from what I was told)
B2) I asked you before about where the XCP asset was located. You told me to fuck off.
C2) How? You tell me. I'm 99% sure no one is going to take the time to audit the entire distribution, Which is what you are counting on.
D2) You're blatantly trying to borrow doog's trusted status to give credibility to an otherwise completely flawwed distro method.
E2) Perhaps then instead of threatening to kill me take my advice and pointers, I like the idea of DC but as it sits it's COMPLETELY fucked and hyping it up and inferring to people that it may hold value in the future while you can freely create them on promise to properly distribute / burn them could be misconstrued as very scammy given the fact that you've claimed no premine yet have 13 Million or something of them sitting there...

So far you told me about cloverme and CBIindex's trade for DC and BTC which costed cloverme 0.5 BTC.

Can you think of anyone else of the top of your head?



Contrary to popular belief I'm not witch hunting you or on an anti darkclam crusade, I am honestly concerned at the lack of thought and the points of failure the current chosen distribution method holds. It's already costed one user a fair sum of BTC already.. I'm trying to prevent more needless loss on something that really shouldn't be traded until done properly via coding instead of asset creation and "scouts honor".
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